to Chris. Yeah, I thought, yesterday of the emails that
surfaced back in October,
showing the very cozy relationship between former
Washington President, Bruce Allen and Jeff passed. The
NFL's, general counsel. Who in the league office is
responsible for not catching
the scam.
How obvious would it have been if someone had decided to truly
audit, not just go in and make sure everything's in order, but
really dig in and look for
any evidence that something was amiss that's priced ticket
changes. That's one thing they were allegedly doing. If
the ticket for a price was 44 dollars. They would make it 55
in order to shove the other revenue
from the football game to the non-football event. That's how
you button it all up.
The ticket price was 44, but we put it in the books is 55
and spread the money
that way. There was a number of quoted like a hundred sixty two
thousand dollars. That ultimately was
directed from
NFL games ticket sales to the Notre Dame game that was played
at FedEx Field within the past decade. So if you really are
looking, could you find it? How thorough was the NFL? And if
I'm an owner, another team,
that's one of the questions I'm asking, right? Yeah, one.
How did we not catch this? Number two, who's responsible
for keeping an eye on this?
Who is it? That should
have spotted this
because that person's got some explaining to do
that. To me, was I think the first thing, you know,
I brought up, but what was that Monday or Tuesday? When we
talked about some of this stuff? I can't even remember
what day it was. But,
you know, it was one of those where I think I made, you know,
the the little snarky comment of like that's this is one
where I'm going to file under like the NFL's just not as
buttoned up and
is a well-oiled machine, as I think it is, sometimes that
I am amazed. That
the NFL is good as they are with their money and they don't
want to spend money on certain things where we go. That's
ridiculous. It'll make the game better
and it's chump change.
We don't have the right checks and balances there to figure
out what teams are doing with their money. I'm just I'm
surprised by that not that. I'm an expert in that it category
or really know anything about it, but I would think that
the NFL has
someone closely looking over team by team, exactly people in
the stands. What the revenue was. Was from this soft drinks
and the hot dogs, and the parking and everything there,
and it's like you can't hide it. That's where
I'm just shocked, that you're even capable of hiding it.
I guess is what I'm saying. They're
well, and it may just be that the commanders knew enough
about the loopholes, the incompetents, whatever it is
likely that they would get away with it. And it's amazing to me
that they didn't Bank on one of their disgruntled, former
employees eventually, having an Avenue, and a platform to talk
about it. And Chris,
this all goes back.
To
the Jon Gruden emails. Well, the end of this happens. Yeah,
unless someone releases the emails that took down Jon
Gruden, and I know that there are people who believe those
emails came not from the league, not from Roger Goodell,
but from Daniel Snyder
that he was pissed off about the punishment. He got even though
grand scheme of things relative to the misconduct. He should be
happy. He should be doing cartwheels. If he even can in
response to the punishment he did receive but he was just so
pissed. That's the theory that's out there that he was so
pissed about what
he had to endure that he was going to take somebody down.
And again, I'm not saying that happened. There are people who
believe that, that's what happened. And look there aren't
many suspects for who had the Emos. Not many people had these
emails or had access
to these Fifty thousand emails from which the Gruden emails
came and
clearly the Washington commanders had access to them
because they were received by servers owned and operated by
Daniel Snyder's football team. So, clearly Snyder is one of
the handful
of suspects
to have given these emails
to the press to bring down Gruden. And I only point out
the possibility intended consequence, because it's
the ultimate step on a rake. Yeah. If your Snyder right? It's
the ultimate Karma
you bring down
unnecessarily and gratuitously the older brother of your
former head coach, right? You bring him down.
And that is the thing that signs your ticket
out of the league.
No more running the team.
Oh, and you possibly will be prosecuted.
I know it's amazing when you lay it out that way,
especially, you know, Jay Gruden. Yeah, it sounded like
there was a good relationship there to have the hit out on
the older brother, like you talk about is
makes it crazier.
It does which, you know
goes back to like the moral Integrity questioned again that
we just talked about a little while ago. It's just as you
wonder about their, all right. So like Mike,
where is this go?
The NFL's. Never going to give the email? Was up for the Beth
Wilkinson Wilkinson, you know, investigation that's never
going to happen.
The Congress is never going to see those. There's just no way
because they're going to find another thousand emails with
language. Like Jon Gruden used in those emails from other NFL
employees. So that's just not going to happen. It's going to
be possibly possibly allegedly, maybe but my my bet would be
that. Yes, you're going to find some dirty emails with
some improper Takin it. All right,
so that's not going to happen.
Now what I mean? I feel like
Congress just needs to just go down this financial path of
what we're talking about and not even mess with that area.
I mean, because it seems like they're trying to do both and
I don't think you're going to accomplish both here.
What we remember,
I firmly believe that the NFL did not provide any of
the information that was developed during the Beth Wilkinson
investigation. Not to protect Daniel Snyder, but to protect
other owners from being caught in a similar mess where
an employee, who's unhappy
files, a lawsuit makes claim. Next thing, you know.
Investigator independent has to Gator comes in and finds things
and the other owners don't want to be subject to
the possibility of losing their team
over something that they believe automatically began
with an embellishment of fabrication. Somebody who just
was mad because they didn't get a raise, or whatever. Because
that's how people who get sued. That's how people who find
themselves in these controversies think. I didn't
do anything wrong.
We just have a disgruntled employee making stuff up.
I didn't do anything wrong. Why are you here? Why are you
investigating? Dating me. No. No. No, you don't investigate
me. I investigate you. I'm the king here. You don't come in
here and start looking
around and poking around.
Nobody wants that, especially not the really rich in
the really powerful because they got a hell of a lot more to
lose than the rest of us. So
the NFL protected Snyder to protect the rest of them.
As a relates to the workplace misconduct investigation,
I believe and others who are in a better position to know. Yeah,
went on right that to. This gives them a way
to get rid of him without having to go in the other direction.
Without having to,
to create a precedent that could be used later against
other owners. Yeah. Oh, well, we got evidence. He was
screwing us. Well, forget about what he was doing to his
employees. We don't care about that. He's screwing us. He's
done,
you throw on top of it, the possibility
that a prosecutor will
launch an investigation
start. Handing out subpoenas
showing up swooping on the team headquarters like on tax day in
2013, the FED swooped on the headquarters of Pilot Flying J.
And launched this investigation that OB even knew.
Coming, that's what could happen. And that's what would
really take this thing next level. And you have to imagine
that somebody's thinking about doing that that this letter
from Congress, is enough
to activate the people who are in place to investigate and
prosecute crime
because this speaks to evidence of crimes.
So I think your instincts are right here. This is an easy and
simple off ramp for the rest of the NFL to step back from
Daniel Snyder.
Let him disintegrate
and nature will take its course.
See if the feds go after him if they prosecutor of State
Attorneys General decide to prosecute. Yeah,
and it brings him down.
You don't have to ever get into years and years and years of
litigation. Right? Right, the Daniel Snyder, who is never
going to stop? Who is never going to give up. He proved
that he's willing to go to the ends of the Earth literally
after he was defamed by,
An obscure website, he filed a lawsuit in India,
and then he used that as the gateway to conduct Discovery
against his enemies in the United States and to try to
find out whether or not his former limited partners were
the ones who were spreading this information. I mean, he
was spending unlimited funds
to try to use the legal system
to achieve whatever end he had in mind.
The NFL has enough to worry about that
if he is on the run
and he's being prosecuted
and he's being taken down that way.
Way, that's when you don't have to worry about
getting into litigation with Daniel Snyder.
It all just takes care of itself. And you know, I had
suggested in the not-too-distant past that
the best outcome would be. If Daniel starters motivation and
I've heard that this is the case
is to make sure his team. His kids have the team,
let him walk away. Let his wife run the team, the kids get
the team and he's just gone. I think that the window for that
if there ever was
close. I hear I think at this point, they're all gone. You
gotta cut at that. They're all gone. Anyone named Schneider ya
gong ya gong gone
gone from the NFL. It's over team gets sold the Jeff Bezos
or some other
70 billion plus. Hey, Rob Walton, if you don't get
the Broncos, you can buy the Commander's somebody's going to
swoop in by that team
and Snyder is going to be forever erased
from the annals of the NFL.
I would think so. I never think this crosses the line of like,
we like to rid, your rid ourselves of everybody in your
family and not, you know,
Be a part of this plus.
I would think, you know, even with this type of situation to
if I'm one of the other owners or the NFL
and how everything has gone down. I'd be worried that you
know, somebody in the family who does takeovers going to be
bitter at the NFL and try to
screw over the NFL and
you know at the day's end at some point just because they're
going to be mad at what was done to their father or mr.
Schneider or whatever. So, yeah, I would think that
this is this is getting dangerously close to
whoa.
Daniel Snyder is Trouble. And he's out of there. We'll see
where this goes. We'll see how much more they can unpack, but
I would think this is finally one where the NFL yeah is going
to cooperate.
You can't. You gotta cooperate here and you're right. Maybe
the
US government can do the NFL's dirty work here.
I think all that can be done at this point is a clean break.
And look,
this is setting aside any factual allegations, or
whatever. I don't know. It's for others to decide what did
or didn't happen, but I keep going. Back to
the effort by the NFL, in 2007,
to beef up the personal conduct policy.
When Pacman Jones, got suspended for the full year.
The lake Chris Henry, got suspended for eight games,
the idea at that point and I can't believe it's been 15 years
already. But the idea at that point was
to send the message to the players
that
it doesn't matter. If you didn't get convicted or
plead guilty or no contest to any of these crimes
when you're accused.
This many times when you're in the news this many times
because you are in a position where someone is saying you did
something that you weren't supposed to do. Even if in any
of the
individual cases, you didn't do it at some point. It's too much
at some point. We got to do something and that's kind of
where we are with Daniel Snyder. The mere fact that he
is constantly in the center of these storms of allegations
should be enough for the NFL to say
enough. I would think. So,
whatever it is about you, Daniel Snyder. That causes all
these people to make these allegations about you
personally, and the way you conduct your business, and
the way you conduct yourself, privately,
you're gone. You're done. It's over.
It's over. We can't
have this. Even if none of the darts ever stick, the fact that
there's so many darts in the air at any given time
toward one of the 32 owners
is bad for the show.
Yield. Yeah, they're always worried about the shield got to
protect the shield to Shield. The Shield The Shield.
Well,
you sure didn't look so good right now. All thanks to one
owner who has to go?
Roger, Roger, if you're on the treadmill this morning and you
flip over from Good Morning football for a few minutes and
we just happened to catch your Roger. We love you,
get rid of Daniel Snyder,
please.
I mean, yes. Yes,
it's you know, it's like you always talk about or we talk
about it the part where in the last thing I'll say about Bout.
It is just
that always rubs me the wrong way.
Is, of course, you know, the players
get held to a standard of,
you know, like we've talked about with this Jean Watson,
whether whatever happens. Here,
he, settles the civil suits or whatever.
The NFL still going to go. Now. We got to suspend you. It
doesn't matter that. You know, you got off, or didn't go to
jail or nothing really happened. Legally.
There's just too much stuff. That was crap that affected
the shield and pliers. Get a held.
Little bit of a higher standard and and a lot of cases than
the owners and of course, the seventh time. And again,
I know, after year, it just year, after year, always me,
they go after the players. They go after the players,
the players, the players, the players they emptied. The idea
that the and look this is one of the chapters in Playmakers.
Even when
an owner does get punished. Do they really get punished?
Commensurate with the way a player gets punished me give
you a quick example before we go to break right
when Jim irsay got suspended after having
a DW. You, I wasn't alcohol but it was medication and
and he was suspended multiple weeks of The Following Season.
He still got his money
when a player gets suspended players got one source of income
one primary source of income. Yeah, player gets suspended
players and get that money when an owner gets suspended. Nobody
takes away any of the money. You just can't watch the game
in the stadium, big freaking deal. Exactly.
Who I mean, yeah, it's embarrassing and it's
it's a Scarlet Letter or whatever,
but it's not They're taken six weeks of your TV Revenue away.
It's not like they're making you donate six weeks of your
box office revenue to charity. So financially,
it's not even close to being the same
when an owner gets in trouble.
And now, look, I think all bets are off at this point.
And I think that the NFL would be very wise not to try to
fight this one. But the use this as an opportunity, bless
you to rid themselves
of Daniel Snyder
once and for all is a long time coming.
And I think at this point with every day that it continues, it
looks worse and worse and worse for the league that we love for
the sport that we love. This is an anti NFL. This is pro NFL
NFL, if you
want to be everything, you can be
the thing. You got to do right now
is tell Daniel Snyder.
What's the old line? You don't have to go home, but you got to
get the hell out of here. Yeah, right. Yeah. Say yeah. I'm with
you. Mike. I got nothing more to say. I'm good there. All
right.
Yeah.