>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY!
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NEXT GUEST TONIGHT IS AN AUTHOR,
COMEDIAN AND A HAIRSTYLIST YOU KNOW FROM
"QUEER EYE."
HIS NEW SHOW IS GETTING CURIOUS WITH JONATHAN VAN NESS.
PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE LATE SHOW, JONATHAN VAN NESS.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( BAND PLAYING )
ER >> Stephen: COME HERE.
LOVELY TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
>> Stephen: WHAT'S UP, JVN.
WELL, I HAVE TO SAY, I ALMOST HAD A BREAKDOWN WHEN KRISTEN
STEWART LITERALLY MENTIONED THE PANIC ROOM.
NICOLE KIDMAN WAS ALMOST -- >> Stephen: NICOLE KIDMAN
ALMOST PLAYED THE LEAD PART BUT SHE GOT INJURED IN THE FIRST TWO
WEEKS OF DOING "THE PANIC ROOM."
>> BUT DO YOU KNOW I REFERENCE THIS MOVIE LIKE THREE TIMES A
WEEK?
>> Stephen: I DID NOT.
OH, MY GOD.
IT'S SUCH A CLASSIC.
I WASN'T READY FOR "THE PANIC ROOM REFERENCE."
>> NO, THE VILLAIN IS REALLY MEAN IN THAT MOVIE.
>> Stephen: YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE NICOLE KIDMAN JODIE FOSTER
PART.
>> OOOH!
>> Stephen: COME ON, YOU COULD PANIC, COULDN'T YOU?
>> IS THERE MOUTHWASH IN THIS ROOM?
BECAUSE SHE NEEDS TO HAVE SUGAR.
>> Stephen: I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, I'M SORRY.
THAT WAS A GOOD REFERENCE.
SUGAR FREE MOUTHWASH.
>> BECAUSE I'M DIABETIC!
>> Stephen: THANKS FOR STOPPING BY.
HOW ARE YOU?
( APPLAUSE ) IT IS LOVE NIGHT HERE ON THE
"LATE SHOW" BECAUSE WE HAD AN ENGAGEMENT WITH KRISTEN STEWART.
YOU GOT MARRIED SINCE THE LAST TIME I SAW YOU.
>> I DID, I DID, I DID.
THANK YOU!
>> Stephen: I WAS MARRIED.
HOW ARE YOU LIKING IT?
IT'S COMFY, ISN'T IT?
>> I GOT PANDEMIC MARRIED.
>> Stephen: DID YOU HAVE A SHINDIG OR --
>> OH, NO, HONEY, IT'S IN THE BACKYARD, A JUDGE, MY HUSBAND,
ME, THE FOUR CATS.
>> Stephen: RING BEARER CAT.
THEY COULDN'T GO OUTSIDE, YOU CAN'T TRUST THEM TO GO OUTSIDE.
THY ARE FIRMLY INDOOR CATS.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
YOU, ARE YOU AN INDOOR CAT?
>> NO, I GO IN AND OUT.
I WISH I WAS AN INDOOR CAT.
>> Stephen: YOU HAVE A NEW SHOW, "GETTING CURIOUS WITH
JONATHAN VAN NESS."
WHAT ARE YOU CURIOUS ABOUT.
>> I'M TAKING A WHAT'S THE HISTORY OF IT, WHAT'S GOING ON
RIGHT NOW, AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO?
THAT'S KIND OF EACH EPISODE.
IT'S A LITTLE LIKE CHRISTMAS STORY IN THAT SENSE, YOU KNOW,
PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE.
IS THAT WHAT THE GHOST OF CHRISTMAS STORY ARE?
>> Stephen: CHRISTMAS CAROL.
YEAH.
>> Stephen: CHRISTMAS CAROL.
CHRISTMAS STORY IS A LAMP AND DRINK MORE OVALTINE.
( APPLAUSE ) SO YOU DID AN EPISODE ABOUT THE
GENDER BINARY.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: AND WE HAVE A CLIP HERE.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW BEFORE WE GO TO THE CLIP?
>> JUST TO ENJOY AND HAVE FUN.
>> Stephen: OKAY.
JIM.
>> WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT NOW IS PEOPLE WILL EXCEPTIONALLIZE US
AND SAY, WELL, YOU'RE SO BRAVE, YOU'RE SO RESILIENT, BUT WHY
SHOULD IT HAVE TO REQUIRE BRAVERY TO DO SOMETHING AS
SIMPLE AS WALKING DOWN THE STREET?
WHY SHOULD IT REQUIRE BRAVERY TO LIVE LIFE ON YOUR OWN TERMS?
WE EXIST AND THAT'S NOT POLITICAL, IT'S FACTUAL.
WE EXIST AND THAT'S NATURAL.
WHAT IS POLITICAL IS MAKING PEOPLE FIT INTO BOXES THAT WERE
PREDETERMINED HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> THAT WAS MY VERY DEAR FRIEND,
AND SUCH A TEACHER.
REALLY I THINK ONE OF THE DEFINING VOICES OF OUR TIME.
SO EXCITED THEY WERE ABLE TO BE ON THE SHOW AND THAT EPISODE IS
ABOUT GENDER AND IT'S A FULL EXPLORATION OF WHAT IS THE
HISTORY OF THE GENDER BINARY, HAVE WE IN FACT ALWAYS BEEN
DOING ALL THIS STUFF, AND IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING EPISODE.
AND IT GETS -- WE GO DEEP.
IT GETS REAL.
THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUGS.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S BUGS, SKYSCRAPERS, FIGURE SKATING.
>> Stephen: NOW, YOU TALK ABOUT ESPECIALLY IN TIMES OF
GREAT STRESS HAVING TO FIND POCKETS OF JOY.
I'M CURIOUS, WHAT'S GIVING YOU THE POCKETS OF JOY RIGHT NOW?
>> OH, MY GOSH, I NEVER SAW THIS COMING.
IT'S VERY OFFBRAND.
I BECAME OBSESSED WITH GARDENING BECAUSE MY HUSBAND IS BRITISH
AND THEY'RE OBSESSED WITH GARDENING.
>> Stephen: SURE.
NOW I'M REALLY INTENSELY IN LOVE WITH GARDENING.
>> Stephen: IS THIS DECORATIVE OR VEGETABLE?
>> OH, NO, VEG.
NEWS FLASH, HOT TAKE, DO YOU KNOW VEGETABLES AND FRUITS,
THERE'S A FLOWER -- >> Stephen: YES.
( LAUGHTER ) >> OH.
I DIDN'T KNOW.
ONCE I FIGURED OUT THERE WAS FLOWERS I WAS, LIKE, THESE ARE
GORGEOUS.
>> Stephen: IT IS FUN TO SEE THAT BEAUTIFUL FLOWER TURN INTO
A ZUCCHINI.
>> PUMPKINS AND WATERMELONS.
>> Stephen: DO YOU HAVE TROUBLE?
WE HAD TO PUT A RABBIT-PROOF FENCE AROUND OUR VEGETABLE AREA
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T A RODENT CHARITY.
GET OUT OF MY CARROTS.
DO YOU HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE PESTS?
>> I KNEW WHERE YOU WERE GOING AND I CAN'T EVEN KEEP MY FACE --
YES, EWE DO.
I HAVE A CHIPMUNK PROBLEM, A SQUASH BORE VINE MOTH PROBLEM.
>> Stephen: A CHIPMUNK PROBLEM?
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: IT IS HARD TO BE A - ALVIN AND HIS DUMB BROTHERS.
>> Stephen: YES.
MURDERED MY WATERMELONS AND PUMPKINS.
>> Stephen: EYE FOR AN EYE?
I ACTUALLY HAVE A WHOLE SET ABOUT THIS IN MY NEW SHOW, BUT I
TURNED INTO UMMA THURMAN IN KILL BILL.
I WAS IN ALL BLACK IN THE BACKYARD.
I WAS READY TO LINE UP THIS CHIPMUNK FAMILY --
( LAUGHTER ) I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT
GARDENING -- BECAUSE I'M NONBINARY.
SOME BINARY PEOPLE ARE, LIKE, I FEEL BETWEEN OR NEITHER.
I ALWAYS FELT A LITTLE BIT NEITHER.
BUT IF I HAD TO IDENTIFY A PIECE OF, LIKE, MY RURAL INDIANA
PRIMAL MAN RAGE -- >> Stephen: THERE'S PLENTY OF
THAT THERE.
>> THERE'S 3 PERCENT.
IT TITRATES, IT'S VERY SMALL, BUT WHEN I GARDEN, I FEEL IT.
I DO.
>> Stephen: THE INDIANA FARMER COMES OUT!
THE CROPS MUST COME IN FOR THE WINTER!
>> I'M HUNGRY!
>> Stephen: GOOD LUCK WITH THE VEGGIES.
> THANKS FOR HAVING ME SO MUCH.
>> Stephen: LOVELY TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
>> WATCH "GETTING CURIOUS WITH JONATHAN VAN NESS" STREAMING ON
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VAN NESS" WITH JONATHAN VAN NESS THIS FRIDAY.
JONATHAN VAN NESS, EVERYBODY.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK!