Juul has been busted creating articles that say that vaping is totally safe and then paying a
medical journal to run these articles that are a fraud. Joining me to help answer the
question of why that happened is Farron Cousins from the trial lawyer magazine. Wow, this is,
this is the same program that we went through. As you know,
you were with our law firm when we initiated the initial tobacco litigation all over the country,
it started right here and we, we, you know, we reviewed all the documents, the game plan. It's
exactly the same game plan. What's your take? It, it really is. And it gets frustrating when
people don't understand, not only that, that it's the same game plan, but it's really the
same players. You know, Altria, which used to be Philip Morris, owns a good percentage of Juul.
It is literally the same companies. So what they've done here, it's the American Journal
of Health Behavior, their May in June issue. They said, you know what, we're going to run 11
research articles here. It's going to be a special on vaping here in the United States.
And they didn't disclose to their own scientists, the people working there that, oh, by the way, all
of these articles were actually produced by Juul and they're paying us $50,000 or so to run this as
if they were actual medically reviewed articles. Yeah. There's two steps to it. First of all,
they find biostitutes that will say anything. Will write anything for the right amount
of money to create an article that says, yeah, there's no health problems with Juul.
Make sure your kids smoke Juul, get them to smoke the candy flavor. That'll really be great.
And then you find a guy like Elbert Glover. You cannot talk about this story without talking about
this cat Elbert Glover, who was the editor of this journal, the American Journal of Health Behavior
and retired after the article came out. What is your take on this guy and what happened here?
It is absolutely disgusting. It shows this paper had absolutely no journalistic
ethics whatsoever. And again, he only, you know, basically had to resign after the staffers and
the scientists that they keep to actually peer review, because keep that in mind too. I'm sorry,
that was a part I glossed over there. They had to have their own, you know, science folks,
peer review the articles and he said, we've got to get this expedited. I need you to peer
review this. Not in months, not going over the actual research, but you got like five days,
you got a week, a business week to get this peer reviewed. Get it back to me. Maybe there's some,
you know, cash involved here. And, and some of the scientists became so concerned reading this,
that they said, my God, Glover. Who wrote it?
They said, this looks like it was written by Juul. And he was forced to say,
oh, actually it was, that's what they said. They said, there's no way Juul didn't write these.
You are going to love this, his quote, this is Glover's quote, I really didn't think it
mattered to tell the people doing the review, that the people that are wanting results are the people
who phonied up the, the story, who phonied up the data. Who made it sound like anything that they
wanted to, to, to have on paper. And this guy has the audacity to call himself editor of the
American Journal of Health Behavior and say, I did the right thing. He knows he didn't do the right
thing. He resigned straight really after that. But he was really only well, he was overwhelmed
by the staff, as you say, that said, hey, we're reading this. You're talking about 2000 kids that
have been hospitalized from this. You're talking about a whole concept of, a whole constellation of
diseases that are directly related. We know that they're selling this so they can get a teenager
hooked on traditional cigarettes. Right. And we know all that. We're finding
that out more and more each year. It's died down over the last year or so with the pandemic, people
more focused on that. But Juul was looking at all of these lung illnesses, as you pointed out,
developing in teens, over 2000 different cases, all of it happening in teens that were vaping.
You cannot claim this is safe. In fact, there's some scientists out there now saying
this is as dangerous as traditional tobacco. And just as you might imagine, the FDA is still
out there, scratching their heads saying, oh gee, we have to determine whether or not this
product is a health benefit. They literally are considering, how do we determine whether
this is a health benefit to young teenagers? I couldn't make that up. It's our dysfunctional FDA.