WITH HIS COMPUTER.
THE RUSSIAN HOAX WAS THAT THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN COLLUDED WITH
RUSSIAND IT NEVER DID.
AND WHILE CRITICS ARE SLAMMING
THE PRESIDENT FOR NOT CONDEMNING
THE RUSSIAN MEDDLING PRESIDENT
TRUMP IS ALSO FIRING BACK AND
HE'S BLAMING FORMER PRESIDENT
OBAMA TWEETED THAT AS WELL
SAYING OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT UP TO
AND BEYOND THE 2016 ELECTION SO
WHY DIDN'T HE DO SOMETHING ABOUT
RUSSIAN MEDDLING?
ALSO, ALL OF THESE POSE SERIOUS
QUESTIONS OF COURSE.
DO THESE INDICTMENTS IN FACT
VINDICATE PRESIDENT TRUMP AS HE
SUGGESTS?
AND HOW SHOULD AMERICA EFFECTIVE
LY RETALIATE AGAINST
RUSSIA?
WANT TO BRING IN MY PANEL DANEEN
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CHAIRMAN, NED RYAN AND
WASHINGTON EXAMINER COMMENTARY
EMILY YOU WRITE ABOUT WASHINGTON
D.C.
EVERYONE IS UP IN ARMS ABOUT
THIS BUT FOR A VARIETY OF
REASONS, CERTAINLY WE KNOW THE
MUELLER PROBE HAS TURNED UP NO
COLLUSION, HAS TURNED UP NO
AMERICANS AND INDICTED NO ONE
SO IS THIS A PREMATURE VICTORY
LAP FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP?
>> HE MAY SEE IT THAT WAY AND I
WOULD SAY THE ENTHUSIASM WITH
WHICH HE TWEETED OVER THE PAST
FEW DAYS WOULD SUGGEST THAT'S
THE CASE.
OF COURSE THERE'S STILL THINGS
TO BE WORKED OUT WHEN IT COMES
TO PAUL MANAFORT, WHEN IT COMES
TO CARTER PAGE THERE ARE STILL
THINGS ON THE TABLE BUT WHAT
HE'S NARROWING IN AND SAYING
WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT IS A HOAX
IT'S THE IDEA THAT HIS CAMPAIGN
WAS INVOLVED AND IT WASN'T
SOMETHING WHERE THE RUSSIANS
WERE OUT THERE DOING WHAT
THEY'RE DOING ON THEIR OWN
WITHOUT AMERICANS GETTING
INVOLVED IN IT.
>> THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IS SO
DISINGENUINOUS.
OBVIOUSLY THEIR WHOLE NARRATIVE
WAS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
CAMPAIGN COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA,
NOT THAT THEY MEDALLED IN OUR
ELECTIONS AND ANY OF THAT STUFF
AND SO TO THAT DEGREE, HE
CERTAINLY HAS BEEN VINDICATED
THUS FAR FOR IT.
>> NO, HE HAS AND I THINK THE
INDICTMENT WAS EXTREMELY GOOD
NEWS FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP BUT YOU
HAVE TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING
HERE AND THAT IS THAT THE
DEMOCRATS AND MUCH OF THE
MAINSTREAM MEDIA WANT TO GET
DONALD TRUMP AND THEY REALLY
DON'T CARE HOW THEY DO IT
WHETHER THEY HAVE TO BEND THE
TRUTH OR LIE AND FRANKLY
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ABSOLUTELY
RIGHT TO RESPOND BECAUSE DO YOU
KNOW WHAT CHARLES?
PUBLIC OPINION NEVER SLEEPS AND
UNFORTUNATELY IF IT SAYS, YOU
KNOW THERE'S NO COLLUSION THEY
WILL TURNAROUND AND SAY WELL
THEY INTERFERED AND SOMEHOW YOU
HAD SOMETHING TO DO IT.
HE HAS TO SHUT THEM DOWN AT
EVERY TURN AND UNFORTUNATELY IT
HURTS HIS ABILITY TO GOVERN THE
COUNTRY BECAUSE THE DEPUTIES
WILL NEVER ACCEPT THE ELECTION
RESULTS.
>> YOU KNOW, NED OVER THE
WEEKEND YESTERDAY RUSH LIMBAUGH
CAUTIONED PRESIDENT TRUMP ON A
FOX NEWS SUNDAY AND WHAT HE SAID
WAS THAT BY TAKING A VICTORY LAP
, YOU KNOW HE COULD ACTUALLY
VALIDATE THE WHOLE PROCESS.
I WANT TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU
AND THE AUDIENCE AND THEN ASK
YOU ABOUT IT.
>> I WOULD BE VERY CAREFUL IF I
WERE PRESIDENT TRUMP HERE.
YOU KNOW THIS IS JUST ONE OF
MANY DIFFERENT AREAS THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL IS INVESTIGATING THE
DANGER FOR THE PRESIDENT IS IT
WOULD BE VERY I THINK SEDUCTIVE
FOR HIM TO EMBRACE THIS, TOTALLY
EMBRACE IT AND SAY SEE, I'VE
BEEN VINDICATED.
THE WORST THING HE COULD DO IN
HIS WORLD IS TO VALIDATE THIS
WHOLE INVESTIGATION BY CLAIMING
VICTORY HERE.
>> YOU THINK THERE'S SOME TRUTH
TO THAT NED?
>> I DO.
I THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT TRUMP
DOES TO LEGITIMIZE WHAT I THINK
IS AN ILLEGITIMATE INVESTIGATION
WITH MUELLER DOESN'T HELP HIS
CASE SO I WOULD AGREE WITH
LIMBAUGH.
I THINK THE THING THAT'S
INTERESTING TOO CHARLES A COUPLE
THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, IF THESE RUSSIANS
CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED
STATES WHY IS A FORMER BRITISH
SPY BY THE NAME OF CHRISTOPHER
STEELE ALSO NOT GUILTY OF
CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED
STATES AND AGAIN WHEN HE IS
AUTHORING A FAKE DOSSIER USED TO
SECURE A FISA WARRANT HOW IS HE
NOT ALSO BEING CHARGED WITH THAT
AND THE OTHER THING TOO AMAZING
TO ME IS THIS DISINGENUINOUS
MEDIA IS SAYING TRUMP ISN'T
PUSHING BACK AGAINST RUSSIA.
I'M SORRY, BUT WHEN HE'S SAYING
WE CAN HAVE THAT POLE AND AND
THE CZECH REPUBLIC CAN HAVE
MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM NOW WHICH
OBAMA PULLED OUT IN 2009 WHEN
TRUMP IS SELLING ARMS TO THE
UKRAINE WHICH FRUSTRATES PUTIN
AND AT THE SAME TIME WHEN HE HAS
GONE INTO CENTRAL EUROPE AND
POLE AND LAST SUMMER AND STARTED
TALKING ABOUT UNDERCUTTING AND
UNDERMINING RUSSIA'S EXPORTS OF
OIL & GAS WHICH IS 50% OF THE
RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT REV KNEW I
CONSIDER THAT VERY STRONG PUSH
BACK AGAINST RUSSIA.
>> YOU KNOW, DANEEN, IT'S
OBVIOUS, WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL
THE TIME THAT THE MAINSTREAM
MEDIA WILL NEVER, YOU KNOW, SAY
ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT THIS
ADMINISTRATION BUT HAVING SAID
THAT, IT PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE
ON PRESIDENT TRUMP TO HAVE TO
USE THE TWITTER AS A SOAP BOX
AND BULLY PULPIT AND IN THIS
PARTICULAR CASE WERE YOU HAPPY
WITH THE TWEET STORM THAT WENT
OFF ON YESTERDAY?
>> LISTEN THE WAY I SEE IT IS
THAT THE PRESIDENT IS ALWAYS ON
OFFENSE AND YOU MENTIONED THE
MEDIA WILL NOT REPORT ANYTHING
POSITIVE ABOUT THE PRESIDENT.
THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT
THE FACT THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY
FACTS COMING OUT IN TERMS OF
RUSSIAN COLLUSION WITH TRUMP
ASSOCIATES AND RUSSIA.
WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING IS
GOING TO AMERICANS DIRECTLY,
WITH HIS TWEETS AND MESSAGES
BECAUSE THE MEDIA WILL NOT DO SO
AND THE OTHER THING IS HE IS
POINTING OUT THAT THE FUMBLES ON
THE SCALE IN TERMS OF HILLARY
CLINTON WITH THE ELECTION AND
WITH THE FBI INDIVIDUALS SO THEY
LET HER OFF,.
>> ABBY: WITH HER E-MAILS AND
WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT AND THE
OPPOSITION RESEARCH DOSSIER ALL
OF THIS INFORMATION THE
PRESIDENT IS REMINDING AMERICANS
ABOUT.
>> YOU KNOW, EMILY ALSO THIS
THAT GOES BACK TO 2014.
WE HAD ADAM SCHIFF OVER THE
WEEKEND EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
THE RUSSIANS WERE ENBOLD EN
BECAUSE OF LACK OF EFFORT BY
PRESIDENT OBAMA AFTER THE SONY
HACK THEY SAW THIS INTERNET
INTERFERENCE IS THE WAY TO GO
AND THE UNITED STATES WON'T
PUSHBACK.
>> CERTAINLY WE CAN REVISIT
MISTAKES MADE UNDER THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION AND SENATOR
BERNIE SANDERS SAID IT EARLIER
THIS WEEKEND MAYBE THERE WAS
SOMETHING THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION COULD HAVE DONE
DIFFERENTLY WHEN IT CAME TO
INTERFERENCE IN THE ELECTION AND
THAT IS A QUESTION THAT IS GOING
TO PICK UP TRACTION IN THE
COMING WEEKS BECAUSE ESPECIALLY
IF IT GETS PUSHED BY REPUBLICANS
ON THE HILL AND ELSEWHERE
BECAUSE IT'S A QUESTION THAT WE
ACTUALLY WOULD BE SERVED BY
HAVING ANSWERS TO WONDERING WHAT
COULD WE HAVE DONE THEN AND WHAT
CAN WE DO COMING UP ON THESE
MIDTERMS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT
THAT FAR AWAY.
>> THERE'S NO DOUBT THIS WHOLE
THING FORD IS NOT GOING AWAY
THAT DEMOCRATS OR THE MEDIA
EXPECTED TO WHEN IT WAS LAUNCHED
, IT'S GOING LONG RATHER
AND SO FAR 13 RUSSIAN
INDICTMENTS NOT NECESSARILY A
LOT TO SHOW FOR ALL THIS.
WHERE DOES IT GO FROM HERE?
>> WELL WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S
GOING TO GO BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY
SPECIAL COUNSEL MUELLER KEPT IT
CLOSE TO THE VEST.
I JUST FIND IT NEXT TO INABLE
THAT AFTER 14 MONTHS OF NO
EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION THAT
YOU'RE EVER GOING TO FIND ANY
SORT OF COLLUSION.
WHAT I HOPE IS THAT WE ACTUALLY
GET TO THE BOTTOM OF RUSSIAN
INTERFERENCE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING
TO HAVE A MIDTERM ELECTION IN
2018 WHAT I HOPE ALSO IS THAT
MUELLER STICKS TO THE COURSE OF
RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE AND DOESN'T
GO DOWN A RABBIT HOLE AND FALL
IN THE DEMOCRATS AND MAINSTREAM
MEDIA TRAP WHERE THIS IS ABOUT
GETTING DONALD TRUMP POLITICALLY
HE IS THE DULY-ELECTED 45TH
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
AND THE DEMOCRATS NEED TO
UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE NEED TO
MOVE ON AND STOP THE RUSSIANS
AND DARE I SAY THE CHINESE AS
WELCOMING RIGHT UP THEIR BACK
SIDE.
>> NED, I THINK YOU AGREE WITH
THAT.
>> NO, ABSOLUTELY I REALLY WOULD
LOVE TO SEE JOHN BRENNAN AND
JAMES CLAPPER WHO BY THE WAY
WERE IN CHARGE OF THE CIA AND
DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL
INTELLIGENCE AND ASK THEM, YOU
KNOW, YOU WERE WARNED WHAT DID
YOU ACTUALLY DO AGAINST THIS,
YOU WERE THE GUYS IN CHARGE.
I WILL SAY THIS WATCHING ALL OF
THE INTELLIGENCE HEAD LAST WEEK
GIVE THAT BRIEFING IN FRONT OF
THE SENATE INTEL COMMITTEE IT'S
CLEAR THAT THERE IS NOT A PLAN
TO COMBAT THIS MOVING FORWARD.
IT'S TIME TO GET A PLAN AND IT'S
TIME TO ALSO DECIDE INSIDE OF
THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND
THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE WHOSE
ACTUALLY IN CHARGE OF A PLAN
MOVING FORWARD.
WE'RE SPENDING 28 BILLION IN OUR
GOVERNMENT ON CYBERSECURITY.
WE SHOULD HAVE A PLAN.
WE SHOULD BE AGGRESSIVE.
I WAS ENCOURAGED BY MIKE POMPEO
SAYING WE HAVE THE
ABILITY TO GO ON THE OFFENSE AND
I'D LIKE TO SEE US GO ON THE