>> EVERY COASTAL CITY COULD GO
UNDER WATER, EVERY MIDWESTERN
CITY OR LARGE SWATH OF THE
MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY
EXPERIENCING DROUGHT ON A LEVEL
THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN, THAT'S
GOING TO BE WAY MORE EXPENSIVE.
WE NEED TO BITE THE BULLET ON
THE COST, BECAUSE THE
ALTERNATIVE TO NOT SPENDING THE
MONEY IS A, DEATH AND B,
SPENDING EVEN MORE MONEY.
DAVID: FRESHMAN CONGRESSWOMAN
ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ
CLAIMING ON INSTAGRAM THAT HER
$93 TRILLION GREEN NEW DEAL
COULD ACTUALLY BE CHEAP, IN
COMPARISON TO THE ULTIMATE COST
OF CLIMATE CHANGE SO IS
OCASIO-CORTEZ RIGHT?
>> DAVID SHE REMINDS ME OF SOME
OF THE OLD PIECES OF OLD THAT
THE EARTH IS GOING TO FLOOD,
FIRES ARE GOING TO CONSUMER US
IF WE DON'T REPENT.
NO SHE'S FULL OF NONSENSE, SHE
TAKES THE PARIS ACCORD AND
ANALYZES IT AND SPENDS VERY
LITTLE MONEY WITH LITTLE RESULT
AND LOOK AT THE WIND POWER 900
TONS OF STEEL IN THOSE
WINDMILLS 45,000 POUNDS OF
PLASTIC.
BUT DO THEY FIGHT CANCER,
WINDMILLS?
DAVID: COME ON.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, AT
LEAST SPEAKING ACCURATE ON SOME
THINGS.
>> OH, WOW.
>> YOU KNOW, DAVID, SHE STARTED
THAT POST, WATCH TO YOUR RIGHT
THERE.
SHE STARTED THAT POST TALKING
ABOUT HOW SHE WAKES UP AT 3:30
IN THE MORNING IT'S SAD SHE'S
LOSING SLEEP.
WORRIED I GET THAT.
I WAKE UP AT 3:30 IN THE MORNING
TOO WORRIED ABOUT WHAT IDEAS AOC
IS GOING TO COME UP WITHIN
ANY GIVEN DAY BECAUSE IT'S LET
ME DEFER THE ATTENTION FROM THE
CRAZY COSTS OF MY GREEN NEW DEAL
TO SAY WELL IF WE DON'T DO THIS
IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE GREEN NEW
DEAL LOOK CHEAP AND TO STEVE'S
POINT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO RUN
OUT OF WATER AND HAVE MASSIVE
FLOODS BY NOW AND BE OUT OF OIL
BY NOW, NONE OF THAT'S HAPPENED
BECAUSE OF CORPORATE INGENUITY
AND A BENEFIT SHE WANTS TO
CURTAIL BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO
CONTROL IT AND NOT ALLOW THE
CORPORATIONS MAKE THINGS BETTER.
>> I THINK THAT'S REALLY TRUE
AND IT'S ALWAYS DEPRESSING
PEOPLE WHO ARE SO WORKED UP
ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND LET'S
AGREE THAT FOR MILLENNIALS AND
SO FORTH THE YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE
REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND
I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE,
OR PROBABLY THE RIGHT CONCERN,
BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE A
LITTLE OPTIMISM THAT SOME OF
THESE CHALLENGES ARE GOING TO BE
MET AND THE DAMAGE, YOU KNOW,
FIXED BY CORPORATIONS AND BY
SCIENTISTS WHO ARE NOW WORKING
ON THESE THINGS.
I MEAN, HONESTLY, THE PROBLEM
WITH ENVIRONMENTAL MOVEMENT IS
THEY HAVE RAISED THESE ALARMS IN
SUCH AN OVER-THE-TOP FASHION FOR
THE LAST 20 YEARS THAT PEOPLE
BASICALLY TUNE OUT.
YES, EVERYONE AGREES AND THEY
VOTE THAT THIS IS A BIG CONCERN
BUT THEN WHEN IT REALLY COMES
DOWN TO WANTING SPENDING, RAISES
TAXES, TO ALLEVIATE A PROBLEM OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, VOTERS
DON'T CHIME IN BECAUSE WE'RE ALL
SORT OF IMMUNE TO THIS SCARE
MONGERING.
>> SO A LOT TO THINK ABOUT
THERE.
ONE, I APPRECIATE LIZ, BRINGING
UP HOW YOUNGER PEOPLE THINK,
BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE DEBATE
S I HAVE ALL THE TIME.
I WAS NOT FOR THE GREEN NEW DEAL
I'M FOR A GREEN NEW DEAL.
I DON'T THINK YOU PUT THE WHOLE
KITCHEN SINK OF HEALTH CARE AND
LABOR, I'M FOR THE PARIS ACCORD.
I DO THINK THAT YOUNG PEOPLE
LIKE AOC AND MANY OTHERS, THIS
IS AT THE TOP OF HER LIST.
IT'S NOT KEEPING ME UP, WHAT AOC
SAYS LIKE IT IS AND I DON'T
THINK ABOUT WHAT SHE'S SAYING
EVERY NIGHT.
I ACTUALLY LIKE HER PASSION, BUT
I ACTUALLY THINK THAT I DON'T
THINK SPENDING 93 TRILLION IS
REALLY ANYTHING THAT'S EVER
GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND WE HAVE TO PUT IT INTO
PERSPECTIVE.
>> ANDY WOULD DO FAR MORE HARM
THAN GOOD.
THAT'S NOT THE WAY YOU TREAT
CLIMATE CHANGE.
DAVID: BUT STEVE EVEN BIDEN THE
MOST MODERATE PERSON RUNNING IN
THE DEMOCRAT FIELD IS FOR THE
ELIMINATION OF FOSSIL FUEL.
>> WHICH IS NOT REALISTIC IF
PEOPLE DRIVE CARS IN THE FUTURE
THE TECHNOLOGY IS NOT THERE YET
IN TERMS OF BIG BREAKTHROUGHS ON
SOLAR AND WIND DESPITE WHAT THEY
MAY SAY SO THE QUESTION IS WHAT
DO YOU DO ABOUT IT?
OCEANS HAVE BEEN RISING ABOUT AN
EIGHTH OF AN INCH FOR HUNDREDS
OF YEARS, AND THE DUTCH HAVE
FIGURED OUT HOW TO LIVE WITH
THAT.
DAVID: AND THE OBAMAS HAVE TO
BECAUSE THEY ARE LIVING IN THE
WATER RIGHT NOW RIGHT?
>> WELL THEY WANT TO GO TO
MARTHA'S VINDICATED YARD
$15 MILLION HOUSE ON AN ISLAND
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE UNDER
WATER IN A COUPLE YEARS.
>> THAT SOUNDS CHEAP VERSUS
WHAT YOU MAY SPEND ON A HOUSE.
COME ON, STEVE.
DAVID: [LAUGHTER]
STEVE DON'T YOU STILL DRIVE A