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>>> WITHOUT RESORTING TO GOOGLE, DO YOU KNOW THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EQUITY AND
EQUALITY?
EQUALITY?
EQUALITY? WELL, THEY WANT TO ENSURE THAT
WE ALL DO.
HE JOINS US AS HE HAS WEEKLY
OVER THE PAST MONTH.
I FEEL LIKE I GET CAUGHT
UNAWARE.
UNAWARE.
UNAWARE. I THOUGHT THAT I KNEW WHAT THIS
ACTUALLY MEANT.
ACTUALLY MEANT. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU
ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
BUT BEFORE WE DO, YOU BEEN ON
THE SHOW WE'VE APPRECIATED YOU
TAKING THE TIME AND WE GOT
QUITE A BIT OF FEEDBACK FROM
VIEWERS WHO APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATION AND ALSO THAT YOU
ALLOW FOR BACK-AND-FORTH AND WE
READ VIEWERS QUESTIONS AND
GIVING THEM SOUND ADVICE.
ONE OF THE MOST RESOUNDING
THINGS THAT YOU SAID WAS,
TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND.
UNDERSTAND. GOING TO LET YOU EXPLAIN THIS
ABOUT WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
BLACK LIVE MATTER AND YOU LIKEN
IT TO WHETHER YOU ARE LEFT-
HANDED OR RIGHT-HANDED.
WILL YOU SAY THAT AGAIN?
PEOPLE HAVE SAID, THANK YOU.
I FINALLY GET IT.
>> SO, GOING BACK TO THAT.
I WAS BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT
BLACK LIVES IN AMERICA.
SO, IF YOU ARE RIGHT-HANDED, I
DO THIS EXERCISE IN THE
WORKSHOP THAT I FACILITATE.
I ASK FOLKS WHO ARE RIGHT-
HANDED TO RAISE THEIR HANDS.
I THEN ASKED THEM HOW MANY
TIMES DURING THE DAY DO YOU
THINK ABOUT YOURSELF BEING
RIGHT-HANDED?
RIGHT-HANDED? USUALLY I DON'T GET ANY HANDS.
THEN I ASKED THE FOLKS WHO ARE
LEFT-HANDED TO RAISE THEIR
HANDS.
HANDS.
HANDS. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A FEW OF
THEM.
THEM.
THEM. THEN I ASKED THEM POSSIBLY
TIMES DURING THE DAY DO YOU
THINK ABOUT BEING LEFT-HANDED.
THEY RAISE THEIR HANDS AND THEY
SAY, ALL THE TIME.
THAT'S BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS
SET UP FOR RIGHT-HANDED FOLKS.
EVERYTHING IS SET UP FOR DOOR
HANDLES, KEYBOARDS, EVERYTHING.
BUT, NOT FOR LEFT-HANDED FOLKS.
SO TO UNCOMFORTABLE.
THAT IS THE LIFE OF
MARGINALIZED FOLKS IN AMERICA.
>> AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
HAS REALLY STUCK WITH PEOPLE.
>> AND IT GOES WITH A LOT OF
THOSE AGGRESSIONS.
THOSE AGGRESSIONS. THAT'S HOW MUCH IS HITTING YOU
LEFT AND RIGHT.
>> YOU ARE JUST COMPLETELY
CONSCIOUS AND AWARE OF THAT.
>> LEFT TURNTABLES TO EQUALITY
VERSUS EQUITY.
VERSUS EQUITY. >> THAT MEANS BASICALLY,
EVERYBODY GETS THIS RIGHT.
SO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT COMMENT
SECTIONS AND PEOPLE ARE
DEBATING, ME TO GO FROM DEBATE
TO DIALOGUE TALKING ABOUT THAT
LATER.
LATER.
LATER. BUT, EVERYONE GET SOMETHING.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE BLACKOUT
TUESDAY THAT HAPPENED.
WERE YOU SHOPPING WITH THOSE
BLACK BUSINESSES YOU SHOULD
SHOP ALL BUSINESSES.
EQUALITY VERSUS EQUITY, THE
IDEA OF EVERYBODY GETS A SHARP
BUT EVERYBODY GETS ONE THAT
IT'S.
IT'S.
IT'S. OR
IT'S. OR GIVING THEM SOME INSULIN AND
EQUALITY.
EQUALITY.
EQUALITY. GIVING THEM ONLY THOSE WHO ARE
DIABETIC.
DIABETIC.
DIABETIC. SO, THIS IDEA HERE IF WE WERE
DOING A RAISE, A FOOT RACE, AND
I LET YOU HAVE 400 YEAR HEAD
START.
START.
START. WE
START. WE NEED EQUITY.
TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT POINT
WHERE WE CAN BE EQUAL.
BECAUSE, IF WE ARE JUST EGO,
THERE IS NO WAY THAT I CAN
NEVER HAVE SUCCESS.
>> THAT DOES MAKE SENSE.
GOING BACK TO THE ANALOGY HERE
I DON'T NEED IT.
BUT, SOMEBODY WHO IS DIABETIC
WOULD NEED IT.
THEN, WE CAN FUNCTION THAT WAY.
>> NOW TO GO BACK TO
MARGINALIZED FOLKS, THERE IS
SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO GET
ON THAT SAME LEVEL PLAYING
FIELD AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
>> WHY IS IT IMPORTANT FOR US
TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
EQUALITY AND EQUITY.
>> WE NEED UNDERSTANDING
BECAUSE AS I TOLD YOU LAST
WEEK, WE ARE VERY DEFENSIVE
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. WE ARE HUMAN.
WE ARE GOING TO DEFEND OUR GOOD
INTENTIONS.
INTENTIONS. SO WITHOUT THAT GOOD
UNDERSTANDING ABOUT EQUITY
VERSUS EQUALITY.
VERSUS EQUALITY. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DEBATE
INSTEAD OF GOING TOWARDS
PROGRESS AND HAVING DIALOGUE
AND UNDERSTANDING HOW CAN WE
HELP EACH OTHER IN THE SENSE
>> WELL, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KNOW HOW DO
WE MOVE FORWARD?
I MEAN, WE SEEM TO BE AT A
STANDSTILL ALMOST AND ARE
SEEING SOME VERY DISTRESSING
THINGS. I
THINGS. I
THINGS. I THINK RIGHTFULLY SO.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
EXPRESSING YOU KNOW, WE ALL GOT
BACK TO THE NORMAL BECAUSE,
THAT IS A SAFE THING.
WE WANT WHAT WE HAD ABOUT, WE
ALSO HAVE THAT TO SAY, WE CAN'T
GO BACK THERE.
>> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. WE CAN'T GO BACK THERE.
WE NEED TO GO FORWARD.
THAT IS A DIALOGUE.
WE NEED TO STOP DEBATING.
THIS IS COLLABORATIVE.
SO, YOU NEED TO STEP AWAY AND
YOU NEED TO LISTEN.
WE NEED TO LISTEN AND RESPOND.
THAT'S HOW WE MAKE PROGRESS.
>> WHEN YOU ARE DOING YOUR
WORKSHOPS AND THINGS, YOU USE A
PARABLE ABOUT THE GIRAFFE AND
THE ELEPHANT.
THE ELEPHANT. WILL YOU SHARE THAT?
>> YOU HEAR THAT A LOT.
YOU TELL PEOPLE, SIX YOURSELF.
SO, THIS IS THE NOTION OF THE
IS LOOKING OUTSIDE AND THIS
BUDDY OF HIS IS WALKING BY AND
HE SAYS COME ON IN.
THEY NEEDED A PLACE TO STAY.
SO, HE PUTS HIS HEAD TOWARD
DOOR.
DOOR.
DOOR. HE
DOOR. HE REALLY CAN'T GET IN.
SO YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE MATTER.
I JUST CAN'T GET TO THE DOOR.
SO, THE GIRAFFE EXPANDS THE
DOOR.
DOOR.
DOOR. SO,
DOOR. SO, THEY ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME.
MAKE YOURSELF AT HOME.
SO THE FLOOR START TO CRACK.
IT'S THEN DESTROYING THINGS.
SO HE SAYS COME WHAT THE
PROBLEM?
PROBLEM?
PROBLEM? AND HE SAYS, I CAN'T GO UP THE
STEPS.
STEPS.
STEPS. THE GIRAFFE SAYS YOU SHOULD TRY
TO LOSE SOME WEIGHT.
SO, THE IDEA IS THAT IT'S
CONTINUIG ON EVERYTHING WHEN
SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT THEY
TELL THEM YOU SHOULD CHANGE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING IN
AMERICA.
AMERICA.
AMERICA. WE ARE TELLING PEOPLE WHO ARE
MARGINALIZED TO A LIVING IN A
SENTRY THAT WASN'T BUILT
CONSIDERING THEM THAT THEY NEED
TO CHANGE INSTEAD OF CHANGING
THE WAY THAT WE DO THINGS.
CHANGING OUR EDUCATION.
WE ARE LOOKING AT CURRICULUM IN
SCHOOLS.
SCHOOLS.
SCHOOLS. WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN MAKING
SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT
CURRICULUM AS WELL.
WE ARE TELLING PEOPLE TO DO
THINGS ON THEIR OWN.
>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MOVING
FORWARD.
FORWARD.
FORWARD. IT'S AN AWFUL DEBATE.
THINK OF A DAY IN THE SEVERAL
MONTHS.
MONTHS.
MONTHS. WHERE I HAVEN'T SEEN A SOCIAL
MEDIA POST DELETING FAMILIES AND
THEY NO LONGER HAVE THOSE
PATIENTS WITH PEOPLE.
BECAUSE WE ARE OVER HERE.
HOW DO WE MOVE CONVERSATIONS
BECAUSE IT'S TRUE DIALOGUE.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. WE HAVE TO HAVE DIALOGUE.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT
CONTROVERSY.
CONTROVERSY. WITH THE CIVIL DISCOURSE.
OWNERSHIP OF INTENT AND IMPACT.
YOU CAN DEFEND YOUR BED BUT,
YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND
THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LOSING
FAMILIES AND FRIENDS, THE
IMPACTS THAT YOU ARE SEEING ON
THESE ARE CHALLENGED BY THOSE
REFLECTION AND POINTED
CHALLENGES NOW, WE ALSO BE VERY
MINDFUL OF THOSE EMOTIONS.
WE ARE VERY EMOTIONAL PEOPLE.
SO, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT
I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHARED THIS
BOOK, ON HOW TO DEAL THESE
MICRO AGGRESSIONS.
MICRO AGGRESSIONS. SO, THAT IS WHEN YOU HAVE THAT
PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP.
PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP. THAT IS YOUR COUSIN KIA FAMILY
MEMBER, WHATEVER.
MEMBER, WHATEVER. THEY DESCRIBED AS BEHAVIORS
WITHOUT JUDGMENT.
WITHOUT JUDGMENT. JUST DESCRIBE THAT.
EXPLAIN THAT IMPACT IN YOUR
FILTERS.
FILTERS.
FILTERS. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
WE ALL HAVE OUR PERSPECTIVE.
AS SOON.POSITIVE CONTINUES.
IF YOU DO THESE THINGS, NOT
NECESSARILY IN THAT ORDER BUT
THAT IS WHERE WE CAN MOVE TO
DIALOGUE.
DIALOGUE.
DIALOGUE. >> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
WILL YOU STICK AROUND FOR THE
CONTINUING OF THE CONVERSATION
FOR THE SHOW?
>>