>> For now, calm has been
largely restored in Brazil after
supporters of the former
president swarmed the Brazilian
congress, supreme court and
presidential palace on Sunday.
But what if any connections are
there between Sunday's attack
and other antidemocratic moves
worldwide?
.
Is Laura brown Lopez.
>> The scenes of bolsonaro
supporters storming the capital
were similar to the insurrection
here two years to the day.
The ties between the two are
deeper.
Former president trump and the
defeated Brazilian leaders share
allies and a playbook.
Joining us to break down the
network of anti-democracy far
right figures that traffic and
extremism as a historian at new
York university.
Thank you for joining us.
What is the clearest connection
between former Brazilian
president bolsonaro and Mr.
Trump?
>> There is a very direct
connection in the form of
headwater bolsonaro, one of his
sons who is a member of congress
who has often come to the
states.
He was in Washington, D.C. On
January 5 at the white house
speaking with Ivanka Trump.
He is very close with Steve van
and who is an advisor of
bolsonaro has is Jason Miller.
Eduardo bolsonaro after his
father lost the election came to
Florida and met with all of
these characters and was
encouraged to continue to
contest the election.
There is a common playbook that
trump and bolsonaro have
followed where you disseminate
-- you get the public to lose
faith in the electoral system
and bolsonaro did this
relentlessly.
This was not a theme in Brazil
before.
Then you have a personality call
so people will believe your
false claims.
>> Steve Bannon and Jason Miller
both former trump advisors.
Have also said this is not as
simple as American right-wing
forces asked wooding extremism
should what other international
leaders or influencers are in
the snow -- in this network?
>> It is important to see the
Republican party today as not
only a party that is dedicated
to destroying democracy at home
and it is quite relevant in
February 22 the GOP decreed
January 6 attack was legitimate
political discourse meeting the
attempt and violence, they
considered a valid way to meet
their political goals.
This has in common with a lot of
extremists abroad and the GOP is
immersed in these far right
networks that stretch from
Moscow to Budapest and it is
well known the amount of
interchange with orb on.
-- With Victor orb on.
They had the conservative
political action conference in
Budapest.
Tucker Karlsson broadcast for a
whole week from Budapest.
But also from Rome with the new
neofascist prime minister.
She gave an interview to the
Washington post and she said she
has attended the national prayer
breakfast and she said the GOP
and her neofascist party are
kindred spirits and the GOP's
battles were similar to things
they discuss as well.
>> When you talk about Victor
orb on in hungry as well as
Vladimir Putin in Russia, is
there a common playbook across
these figures who you have
called strongmen?
>> These are people who use this
information.
They repress dissenters.
I refer to the strongmen as
these leaders who use cheese and
a -- who use machismo.
The personality call is
important because people bond to
them and they believe the
fraudulent things they say to
them.
In bolsonaro's case, he got
people to believe he was the
victim.
Victimhood is important to all
of the strongmen.
He also disseminated the idea
violence might be necessary.
This is another hallmark of
these extremist leaders.
In June 2022, he said -- he is
setting up violence might be
necessary if he loses.
He said if necessary we will go
to war.
And they did go to war for him
on January 8.
>> You say strongmen like Mr.
Trump and balls and there are
not necessarily going to go away
but the international
Republicans that you told my
public this.
>> I think we can look at the
fact our system worked.
That is the long-term takeaway.
The institutions held.
Good people, Republican and
Democrat proceeded to effect a
peaceful transfer of power and
guess who had a bad subsequent
year or two following January 6.
It was not the United States.
We had political change.
We had some economic renewal.
The people who had a bad year
were dictators in Iran, Russia
and China.
>> What do you say to that
assessment that overall
democracy seems to have held?
>> We are witnessing a time when
authoritarianism is being
revealed to be weak.
These protests in China are a
big deal as they are in Iran.
Putin's war is a classic example
of autocratic backfire with a
terrible performance of the
Russian military is showing it
is an institution that has been
ravaged by Putin's kleptocracy.
And by institutionalize lying
that everyone is too afraid of
falling out a window to tell the
truth.
Authoritarianism has never been
weaker and a sense but that is
why these people are roaring
back, grasping at anything they
can do.
It is like their last chance to
prevail.
>> Thank you so much.