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David Pakman: Welcome to the show, David Pakman here. Louis is in-studio with me. There is
so much to talk about I don't even know where to start. For all of those who have been emailing
me saying they believe it's a joke, this whole running thing about Louis not wearing shoes
during the show, Louis has escalated it to a new level, he's actually shown up today
with white flip-flops, and he took them off. He... we have a picture of this, it's up on
our Twitter account, it's up on Facebook, it's all over. And I encourage you to take
a look at that just to get a sense of just exactly what it is that's going on in the
studio. I don't even really know, but I'm anxious to find out.
And of course, we have the iPad giveaway going on. We're giving away an iPad. This is the
third one we've given away. Three ways to get in: Become a member, you get 10 entries.
Sign up for our newsletter, you get one. Like the show on www.Facebook.com/DavidPakmanShow,
you get one entry. So there are a lot of entries per person to be had, Louis, and certainly
if you were waiting anxiously to become a member, this is really the time to do it,
I have to say.
Louis Motamedi: Definitely.
David: The Anthony Weiner Weinergate controversy, this is one of the funniest stories. And I
like Anthony Weiner as a politician, we've covered him very positively. When he goes
on Fox News, he doesn't take any gruff from Megyn Kelly, for example. You know I'm a fan,
Louis.
But I believe... the story is that Anthony Weiner's Twitter account was linked to a lewd
photo, which appears to be of a man's midsection wearing boxer briefs, appears to be aroused,
I think is fair to say, Louis.
Louis: Yeah.
David: Louis's close analysis has indicated that he believes the man in the picture is
aroused.
The photo was posted to the public image sharing site Yfrog, and this was... this was very
controversial, because right away, obviously, why is a congressman posting a picture of
his genitals, admittedly covered up by boxer briefs? Anthony Weiner came out with a whole
bunch of different press and scenarios surrounding this, and I have to tell you, Louis, I agree
with some of the points he's making in trying not to talk about this, but he's just saying
more and more and more that really suggests to me it's a picture of Anthony Weiner.
Louis: Oh, no doubt. Of course it is.
David: You think the picture is of him?
Louis: Anyone who listens to him try to explain himself would realize that.
David: Let's start at the beginning. Let's start with him calling... he's talking to
Dana Bash at a press conference, and then he refers to Dana Bash's producer as "this
jackass". This is the first bit of tape that I want to play for you. And again, I see some
of the points Anthony Weiner is making here and they're valid, but overall, I'm not buying
much of this at all, Louis.
Dana Bash: So can you answer even this basic question? You keep saying the same thing over
and over again, and I'm trying to find...
Anthony Weiner: [Simultaneously] This is now... this is now day... this is now day... this
is now day three. You have statements that my office has put out.
Bash: But they don't answer the questions that we have.
Weiner: There are statements that my office has put out, and there are going to be people
who are going to want... look, this is the tactic. The guy in the back of the room who's
throwing the pie or yelling out the insult wants that to be the conversation. I'm going
to... let me...
Bash: But you are the one who said it was hacked, that you were hacked. And that's a...
that's a criminal... a potential crime.
Weiner: Dana... Dana... let me... I'm going to have to ask that you follow some rules
here, and one of them's going to be you ask questions, I give answers, that's reasonable.
Bash: I'd love to get an answer.
Weiner: That would be reasonable, right? You do the questions?
Producer: Direct answer.
Weiner: That'll be reasonable, you do the questions, I do the answers, and this jackass
interrupts me? How about that as the new rule of the game?
Reporter: Congressman...
Weiner: Let me... let me... let me just... let me just...
Bash: He's also trying to get answers.
David: All right. So there he goes calling the CNN producer a jackass, maybe not the
best way to go, but the point he's making is good, which is if you're at a public speaking
event and you're there to talk about a certain issue and someone throws a pie from the back
of the room and then all everybody wants to hear about for your two-hour speech is about
the pie, at some point, you have to cut it off, Louis. You're there to talk about something
else. So far, I can't disagree with him, right?
Louis: Right.
David: Do you think this is a valid point? He can't just talk indefinitely ad nauseum
about a picture of his penis on Yfrog.
Louis: 100% valid.
David: And Natan wants to get in here.
Natan Pakman: Yeah, you didn't realize that you made another sexual innuendo, just like
Anthony Weiner is doing, with the "cut it off" just now.
David: We'll get... right. OK. So I believe he... this was all a good point. Then he does
an interview, he sits down with MSNBC's Luke Russert, OK? Listen very carefully, because
I listened to this a few times, this is the big I can't say with certitude that the picture
is not of me. So first of all, this indicates what, Louis, that he knows...
Louis: That it might be a picture of him.
David: And the only way that's possible is by tacitly admitting that there are pictures
of him in his boxer briefs, because otherwise, you could say... in other words, I can say
with certitude that this picture over my shoulder is not of me, you know why? Because I've never
been wearing that where there was a camera. So I know for sure, with certitude, you hear
what I'm saying, Louis, that this picture is not of me.
Louis: I hear you, yeah. Yeah, I follow.
David: The fact that Anthony Weiner can't say that means there are pictures of him in
his boxer briefs...
Louis: With a chubby.
David: Apparently aroused. So let's take a listen to the interview, and listen very closely,
because he's dropping in an incredible amount of sexual innuendo here without even...
Louis: Unintentionally.
David: ... without even realizing it. It's... you couldn't write this.
Weiner: I didn't send that picture out.
Luke Russert: But that's not a picture of you?
Weiner: You know, I can't say with certitude. My system was hacked, pictures can be manipulated,
pictures can be dropped in and inserted. One of the reasons that I've asked a firm that
includes an internet security arm...
David: OK, so listen to what he's saying here. He is saying that he can't say with certitude,
pictures... he's talking about manipulation, insertion, and dropping in... [laughs]
Louis: And dealing with a firm.
David: He also has had firm contact. In other words, he is in touch with a firm. And the
other funny thing is he says his entire system was apparently hacked.
Louis: Yeah, like I think it's more of a metaphorical system, like a system with which he sends
pictures of his penis.
David: Exactly.
Louis: Probably, right?
David: The system Anthony Weiner uses to take and send pictures of his penis has been hacked.
Louis: It got messed up.
David: Now, I actually believe Anthony Weiner that he didn't purposely send this picture;
I think what may have happened here...
Louis: Oh, come on, it's not like the thing was on his phone so he could look at it himself.
David: Hold on a second. Hold on. Forensic image analysts have indicated that the picture
actually may have been taken with a different camera phone than what he normally uses, so
there's a chance here that this is... this was not his doing.
What I'm just throwing out, a possibility that hasn't been mentioned, which would fall
under the letter of what he's saying but not the spirit, is that he meant to send this
as a direct message to someone on Twitter, and he accidentally Tweeted it out publicly.
That's what I think may have happened here. In other words, he's essentially admitting
the picture is of him, or that at least these pictures... pictures indistinguishable from
this one exist of him. That's what we're hearing.
Louis: Right. Right, right.
David: And then, again, listen to the sexual innuendo. If you're trying to get people to
stop thinking about penis pictures of you, don't start using the words "manipulate" and
"insert".
Louis: Insert, and firm.
Weiner: ... certitude. My system was hacked, pictures can be manipulated, pictures can
be dropped in and inserted. One of the reasons that I've asked a firm that includes an internet
security arm is to take...
David: Amazing. If you told someone that you were going to play them a 15-second clip of
someone trying to cease connections with a penis picture, and that the 15-second explanation
included the words "manipulate", "drop in", "insert", and "firm", I think most people
would say it's probably not that good of an explanation.
Louis: No.
David: Is that fair to say?
Louis: But a funny one.
David: But a funny one. And you know, the other thing is, I was just thinking, hypothetically,
if we're going to assume that he's going to be evasive or lie, what other things could
he have just made up? I think he should've said, you know, this happened when I was sleepwalking,
I was on an Ambien trip and I don't know anything, like one of the Kennedies used once.
Louis: I was roofied.
David: Or my son was messing around with my camera phone, and it just... I don't know.
It was all just an accident. And we don't even know if he has a son, by the way. Honestly,
even not having a son, it's still a pretty good explanation. He should... he should...
I would rather him lie about having a son, honestly.
Natan: Honestly, like if his son took that picture, it's almost worse.
[Laughter]
Louis: Right, right.
David: Well, it does bring up a lot of questions.
Louis: What's that, Daddy?
David: Yeah. And I don't even know if Anthony Weiner has a son, but...
Louis: Probably... I think it's safe to say that he probably has a Weiner, and that might
be it right there.
David: So again, he can't say with certitude. The other question that hasn't been asked
is, and now we're really getting into it, do you own a pair of boxer briefs like this?
Do you recognize this pair of underwear?
Louis: Yeah. I'm sure there's a whole line of questioning we could... we could use to...
if they were questions he was willing to answer, that could reveal the truth here, but...
David: My last thought on this, Louis, is at this point, politicians are so commonly
sending out pictures or inappropriate instant messages to people that are either... it either
reveals that they may be straying from their wife, or that they're in contact with people
that are too young for them, or that they've been living a life where they criticize homosexuality
while actually being gay. You would think that since this is so common among politicians
that by now, when you get into Congress, there would just be a system in place for you to
send penis pictures and inappropriate instant messages that's not going to be intercepted.
In other words, maybe...
Louis: Yeah. Like the day you're sworn in, they hand you like a pamphlet that explains
in detail how to go about doing things like this.
David: You would think that this is so... it's so common that politicians would've figured
out how to keep these types of... how to keep penis pictures and inappropriate texts to
pages that are working for you at the House of Representatives under wraps in a better
way. But apparently they're not there yet.
Louis: They just have so much going on in their lives, in their heads, that they cannot
keep track of things like this.
David: I guess so. And... what's that, Natan?
Natan: Oh, I just said in both of their heads they have a lot going on.
David: Yeah.
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