>> Recently, Bella Thorne had released nude photos of herself on Twitter.
Now, it wasn't because it was something she actually wanted to do, it was something that
she did to get ahead of an individual who was blackmailing her or attempting to blackmail
her with these nude images.
So she put those images up and said, I can sleep tonight better knowing I took my power
back.
U can't control my life, u never will.
Well, the ladies of The View discussed this and Whoopi Goldberg had a fascinating take.
Take a look.
>> Listen, if you're famous, I don't care how old you are, you don't take nude pictures
of yourself because- >> But she only wanted to share it with one
person.
>> Listen, when they're hacking you, they're hacking all of your stuff.
So whether it's one picture or a million pictures, once you take that picture, it goes into the
cloud and it's available to any hacker who wants it.
And if you don't know that in 2019, that this is an issue?
I'm sorry, your age does not, you don't get to do that.
>> But why not just- >> You don't get to do that.
>> Why not- >> So Bella Thorne responded to this and there
are several tearful videos on her social media responding to it and I definitely empathize
with her or sympathize.
I mean I haven't had this happened to me, but here's what she said.
She said, Dear Whoopi, I have loved you for so long but honestly I'm so displeased and
saddened by your response to my leak.
Blaming girls for taking the photo in the first place is sick and honestly disgusting.
So what a girl can't send her boyfriend that she misses photos of her that are sexy?
Things he's already seen?
I as a woman should be so scared walking around my home, being on my phone, doing anything?
So, I think look, I want to get your thoughts on this because I've made a similar point
before, but I think tone matters.
So the onus should not be on the woman, right.
The onus should not be on the woman to protect herself by avoiding any type of sexy image
for her significant other.
But we live in this world where it's so easy to hack in to people's accounts.
So like I've said, like my personal view is, I'm not gonna take those pictures because
I know there a bunch of creeps out there who are gonna hack in to my stuff and they're
gonna find them.
And I just don't wanna deal with that situation.
But with that said, I think tone matters in the way that Whoopi presented was you know,
it's your fault.
You shouldn't have done that, I don't care how old you are.
But, let's talk about who the real bad person is in the story.
>> Yeah.
I don't even think tone matters.
It's your choice to not take a picture of your body and send it to who you want to.
That's your choice.
We can't take away a woman's choice to police her own body because there are criminals out
there.
>> Yeah.
>> Cuz it's a slippery slope, and it goes all the way down to you were dressed too hot,
so I grabbed you and took you behind this tree.
>> Yeah.
>> It does.
A criminal does not have a right.
It's stupid to leave your keys in car.
But it's still illegal to get in it and drive it off.
>> Yeah, definitely.
>> This is victim blaming.
>> Yeah.
>> You should be able to take a sexy picture if you want to and send it to whoever you
want to.
That gives nobody a right to do that.
And if we keep talking about what the victim shouldn't have done, we will never take the
crime serious enough.
>> Yeah.
>> Ever.
>> I guess like the perspective I'm coming from is, and this is I haven't experienced
it with nude images, right?
But I've experienced it when it comes to all sorts of crazy online threats, very specific
threats.
I'm gonna show up to your house.
I'm gonna rape you.
I'm gonna murder you.
This is where you live, that kind of stuff.
You go and report it to the FBI.
They don't care.
They don't do anything.
You report it to the local authorities, what do you want us to do?
>> Yeah.
>> There's nothing we can do.
So like there's no protection and there's no legal recourse for women, or for victims
of these types of things.
And so like, the way that I see it is, no I don't blame her.
I don't blame her at all.
It's not her fault.
But the way that I've operated is, people are going to target me, no one cares to protect
me.
Our legal system doesn't care to protect me.
So unfortunately, I have to do this or that or avoid doing this or that because otherwise
there's nothing I can do, right?
There's no one who's going to like look out for the best interest of the victims.
So it's a difficult situation to comment on because on one hand it is not her fault.
Like I think it's totally wrong to blame her, which is why I say it's a tone thing.
Like Whoopi Goldberg is blaming her for this which is not okay.
But at the same time I mean it sucks that the woman has to take matters into her own
hands to protect herself.
Because our justice system is just not equipped to deal with these types of crimes.
>> Our justice system is not equipped to deal with police brutality, but I think my little
brother should still leave his home.
>> No, I get it.
>> I know it just shouldn't be about the woman at all.
>> So can I ask you something?
So if a mother talks to her son, okay, they're people of color and she says to her son, don't
be out late at night because the cops might harass you, this and that.
I mean, wouldn't you argue that this is kind of a similar situation?
Our justice system and law enforcement unfairly targets and harasses people of color.
So a young man shouldn't have to deal with that.
He should be able to go out late with his friends without worrying about the harassment.
But a mother would tell him that to protect him, right?
>> Yeah, but if something happens to him, think about how ridiculous it would be to
say he shouldn't have been out of late.
>> I agree with you on that.
>> So that's really what it sounds like, that's what I'm saying.
So something bad happened to her that she didn't deserve.
And the conversation for whatever the reason does always no matter the tone slide back
to, well it wouldn't have happened if she didn't do this.
>> You're right.
>> And it's not okay.
>> You're right, yeah.
>> If Whoopi cared about her, maybe she'd have reached out in private and be like hey
like I would recommend maybe not doing that if you like don't want this kinda thing to
happen again whatever.
But to kick someone while they’re down, publicly.
>> Yes.
>> I mean, I can’t think of a more invasive and weird feeling.
>> Yeah.
>> What Belle Thorne must be going through is just awful.
>> It’s disgusting.
>> I don’t think you should have allowed people to photograph you dating Ted Danson
in black face.
>> But you did.
I'm all about a naked picture other than that.
We can see that forever.
And as great as you are, that is one of the worst photos that I've ever seen.
It's silly.
She's not talking about that.
She's been in dumb pictures.
>> Yeah definitely.
>> It just should never be about what a woman should do with her body.
And yes the justice system isn't there, so that's where our focus should be.
>> Yeah.
>> Not on the victim, a woman's rights to her own body should not change at all just
because police haven't caught up, just because they're criminals out there.
You should wear what you want, you should take pictures of what you want, you should
send them to whoever you want to with the consent.
But you should do what you want.
And it's not even gonna stop there.
Erin Andrews was getting dressed in a hotel room and somebody drilled a hole in the wall
and took a video of her.
The conversation should never be on the woman.
It's always on the criminal.
Somebody committed a crime.
A crime that should be a sex crime.
That's what somebody did to her.
That's what we should focus on, that's it.
>> Yeah, look I totally agree with you but it never does get focused on.
Just to give you an example- >> Remember the celebrity drop?
People when to jail for that.
Somebody got in trouble with Erin Andrews.
It does happen.
>> And there was so much outrage over the people who got prison sentences over that,
but I mean- >> If they weren't people on the other side.
>> Right.
And they weren't strong enough to be like, hey, I was sending this to my husband, I can
do what I wanna do.
Maybe it wouldn't have happened.
Maybe those people wouldn't have gone to jail.
>> Yeah, and the slut shaming that happened following that whole celebrity nude leak.
>> Yeah.
>> She should have known better, right?
I hate that way of handling it.
>> Right.
>> I feel the way you mentioned it Nanda is probably the best way, right?
Like if you really want to give her advice, just so she can protect yourself.
That's one thing.
But the way Whoopi said, it did seem like victim blaming here.
>> Yeah.
>> And like, look, when it comes to threats or violence toward women who happen to be
public figures, like the onus has always been 100% on me, right?
Like open up a shell company so you can buy your apartment so people don't know where
you live.
That is insanely expensive in California.
I mean you pay $800 a year and that's just the yearly fee and then there's like taxes
involved.
You gotta file separate taxes.
It's been incredibly expensive and a terrible experience for me personally so I get it.,
right?
I hate that the onus is always on the victims who are targeted by these creepers online.
But >> Kind of in your position you might give
her the same advice.
>> Yeah, and I have.
Women who do what we do have confided in me and told me what they're going through and
I've given them that advice.
Here's what you need to do.
You need to get your address Delisted from all of these terrible websites.
>> But if something happened to them publicly you wouldn't be like, well I told you.
>> Not in a million years.
>> Wait, don't give people advice about their own bodies if they didn't ask you for it.
>> Right.
>> Right now you have on an outfit that is banned by the White House Correspondents'
Association.
>> That's.
>> Women still can't wear sleeveless dresses and it still comes down to that whole like,
listen, the mens will look.
>> Yeah.
>> It’s not, it’s silly.
It doesn’t even stop with naked, you don’t even gotta be naked for somebody
to do something inappropriate.