SKYWRITER
SKYWRITER SCREAM AT MY OFFICE WINDOW FROM THE STREET OUTSIDE,
TRAIN A PIGEON TO CARRY ONE
OF THOSE REAL LITTLE LETTERS
THE ONES THEY PUT ON THEIR FOOT
BY ONE OF THOSE ADORABLE TINY
LEATHER AVIATION HELMETS WITH
THE GOGGLES YOU COULD CALL MY
DESK PHONE OR TWITTER.
DID I SAY TWITTER ALREADY?
EITHER WAY, DON'T FORGET TO USE
>> THE HASHTAG HEY DAN, LET'S
GET >> STARTED AND LET'S TALK
ABOUT THE BIG STORY AND BY >>
BIG STORY I MEAN THE BIGGEST
STORY OF THE YEAR, RIGHT ?
WHEN THOUSANDS >> OF PEOPLE
STORMED THE US CAPITOL SIX DAYS
INTO TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THE
COUNTRY AND THE WORLD WATCHED
IN HORROR.
IN HORROR. SO THE DUST HAS BEEN KIND
OF SETTLING EVER SINCE.
IT CONTINUES TO SETTLE
RIGHT NOW POLICE HAVE ARRESTED
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AS THAT DUST
HAS SETTLED PEOPLE WHO BREACH
THE BUILDING THAT DAY OR
COMMITTED ACTS OF VIOLENCE
OUTSIDE IT HAS BECOME ONE
OF THE LARGEST CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATIONS IN US HISTORY
WITH ARRESTS IN 40 STATES
INCLUDING >> ONE MAN FROM
SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON WHO SAT
DOWN WITH OUR KYLAH IBOSHI TO
EXPLAIN HIMSELF.
EXPLAIN HIMSELF. IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD
FROM A LOCAL PERSON WHO
ACTUALLY STORMED OUR NATION'S
CAPITAL THAT DAY.
FEDERAL >> INVESTIGATORS HAVE
USED COUNTLESS HOURS OF VIDEO
AND PHOTOS TO HELP IDENTIFY
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO ENTERED
THE U.S. CAPITOL ON JANUARY 6TH
AND IF GRACE IS ONE OF THEM >>,
THERE WAS A PHOTO THAT WAS
WIDELY CIRCULATED AND THE
SUGGESTION IS THAT THAT'S YOU
BEHIND THIS GENTLEMAN.
IS THAT YOU >>?
YES.
YES.
YES. AT
YES. AT >> THE TIME THE BATTLEGROUND
MAN DIDN'T REALIZE THE
SIGNIFICANCE OF HIS WRONGDOING
OR THE NOTORIETY THAT WOULD
FOLLOW.
FOLLOW.
FOLLOW. I
FOLLOW. I >> GET A CALL FROM THE WIFE
BACK HERE AND SHE SAYS YOU'RE
ON TV.
ON TV.
ON TV. AND I SAID OH OK.
AFTER >> HIS ARREST GRACE LOST
HIS JOB IS A LONG HAUL TRUCK
DRIVER.
DRIVER.
DRIVER. HE'S FACING UP TO A YEAR IN
PRISON AFTER FEDERAL
PROSECUTORS CHARGED HIM WITH
KNOWINGLY ENTERING OR REMAINING
IN ANY RESTRICTED BUILDING OR
GROUNDS WITHOUT LAWFUL
AUTHORITY.
AUTHORITY. WHY DID YOU ENTER THE CAPITOL
BUILDING >>?
BUILDING >>? YOU KNOW, I REALLY DON'T KNOW
TO BE HONEST.
I I DON'T KNOW I HAD NO
INTENTION OF IT AND I DON'T
WANT TO SAY SWEPT UP BY THE
CROWD OR SWEPT UP BY MY HEART
OR SWEPT UP BY THIS I DON'T
REALLY HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT
>>.
>>.
>>. GRACE
>>. GRACE SAID HE WENT TO
WASHINGTON, D.C. ALONG WITH HIS
ADULT SON TO SUPPORT PRESIDENT
TRUMP WHO HAD FALSELY CLAIMED
HE WON THE ELECTION.
>> DO I BELIEVE DONALD TRUMP
SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUR PRESIDENT?
YES, I 100 PERCENT BECAUSE
BECAUSE HE WON THE ELECTION
AFTER >> ATTENDING A PRO TRUMP
RALLY, GRAY SAID HE AND HIS SON
BECAME SEPARATED AND HE STARTED
WALKING TOWARD THE CAPITOL
BUILDING ACCORDING TO COURT
RECORDS.
RECORDS.
RECORDS. GRACE ENTERED THE BUILDING
AFTER SEEING AN OPEN DOOR.
ACCORDING TO GRACE, HE PASSED
BY TO CAPITOL POLICE OFFICERS.
THEY APPEARED TO BE OVERWHELMED
BY THE NUMBER OF PROTESTERS
AND LOOK SCARED ONCE INSIDE THE
FBI SAID RACE WALK TO THE
ROTUNDA TELLING FEDERAL AGENTS
HE DECIDED TO LEAVE AFTER
WITNESSING SEVERAL PEOPLE
CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE CAPITOL
PROPERTY >>.
PROPERTY >>. IT'S DISGUSTING >>.
IT'S NOT OK.
IT'S NOT AMERICA.
IT'S NOT FREEDOM.
IT'S IT'S A BAD REPRESENTATION
OF WHAT WE REALLY ARE, WHAT WE
STAND FOR GRACE >> SAID HE
PLAYED NO PART IN THE VIOLENCE
ON JANUARY 6TH.
FIVE PEOPLE DIED INCLUDING A
CAPITOL POLICE OFFICER.
YES, SIR.
YES, SIR.
YES, SIR. HOW DOES THAT SIT WITH YOU?
IT'S IT'S THE IT'S SAD.
IT'S TRAGIC.
IT'S TRAGIC. IT'S IT'S THERE'S NO
JUSTIFICATION OF IT AND I WOULD
PRAY THAT ANY IF ANY OF MY
ACTIONS CAUSED ANY OF THAT THAT
I WOULD PRAY FOR FORGIVENESS
FROM THEIR FAMILY >> I GUESS I
DON'T KNOW GRACE SAID HE'S NOT
ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND HE DIDN'T
TAKE ANY PHOTOS OR VIDEO BUT
OTHERS DID.
OTHERS DID. >> ACCORDING TO THE FBI, AN
INFORMANT CALLED THE TIP LINE
TO REPORT JEFF GRACE
OF BATTLEGROUND WASHINGTON WAS
AT THE U.S. CAPITOL ON JANUARY
6TH.
6TH.
6TH. WHAT
6TH. WHAT YOU DID WAS ILLEGAL >>
OF COURSE YOU'VE ASKED ME THIS
THREE TIMES.
THREE TIMES. YES, IT WAS ILLEGAL.
GRACE >> HOPES THAT BY SPEAKING
PUBLICLY PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND
THAT LIKE IT OR NOT, THE MAN IN
THE BACKGROUND OF THIS PHOTO
HAS A STORY >>.
THE QUESTION IS ARE WE WILLING
>> TO LISTEN THAT THEN I'M NOT
FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE >> IF
I'VE OFFENDED ANYBODY NOT MY
INTENTION AT ALL.
BUT HEY, LET'S GET TOGETHER
AND WE'LL VISIT AND MAYBE I CAN
TEACH YOU SOMETHING OR MAYBE
YOU CAN TEACH ME SOMETHING BUT
MAYBE WE CAN PULL TOGETHER
AND WORK FOR THE COUNTRY
BECAUSE TEARING IT DOWN IS AN
OK >>.
OK >>.
OK >>. OK
OK >>. OK >>, KYLE IBOSHI JOINING US
NOW.
NOW.
NOW. SO
NOW. SO KYLE, CURIOUS JUST FROM A
JOURNALIST STANDPOINT, WHAT
WERE YOU HOPING TO LEARN FROM
INTERVIEWING THIS MAN?
WELL >>, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST, YOU KNOW, I REPORTED
INITIALLY WHEN JEFF GRACE WAS
ARRESTED WE RECEIVED A PRESS
RELEASE FROM DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE.
OF JUSTICE. HIS NAME WAS IN HEADLINES BUT
WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHO THIS
GENTLEMAN WAS OR ANYTHING ABOUT
HIS BACKGROUND.
HIS BACKGROUND. SO FOR ONE IT WAS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO TO MEET WITH
HIM, FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE
ABOUT WHO HE WAS AND HAVE HIM
EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED
AND WHY.
AND WHY.
AND WHY. SECONDARILY, THERE'S A LOT
OF FOCUS ON POTENTIAL
COMMUNICATION OR COORDINATION
AMONG GROUPS WHO WERE THERE
THAT DAY ON JANUARY SIX.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY BIG
QUESTIONS WAS THIS IN SOME WAY
COORDINATED?
COORDINATED? WAS HE WORKING WITH ANYBODY?
HE SAID NO.
NOBODY BOUGHT HIS PLANE TICKET.
HE PAID FOR THAT ON HIS OWN.
THERE WAS NO COORDINATION FROM
WHAT HE COULD TELL AND ALSO
HE'S NOT PART OF SOME GROUP AT
THE PROUD VOICE, NOT THE THREE
PERCENTERS IN THOSE PEOPLE WHO
ARE PART OF THOSE GROUPS BUT HE
IS NOT HE SAYS ADDITIONALLY
HE'S NOT ACTIVE ON SOCIAL
MEDIA.
MEDIA.
MEDIA. NOW THE >> THREE HUNDRED PLUS
ARRESTS THAT WERE MADE I'M SURE
EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT STORY
HERE BUT WHEN IT COMES TO HIS
WHAT IS NEXT FOR HIM IN THIS
JOURNEY >>?
JOURNEY >>? SO >> OBVIOUSLY LEGAL
PROCEEDINGS WILL PLAY OUT.
WHAT'S INTERESTING IS
WASHINGTON POST REPORTED EVEN
TODAY THAT FEDERAL PROSECUTORS
ARE CONSIDERING PLEA DEALS
ESPECIALLY FOR SOME OF THE
LESSER CHARGES SIMILAR TO THOSE
THAT MR. GRAY FACES.
SO THERE IS THAT POSSIBILITY
BUT HE'S GOT A COURT DATE
COMING UP NEXT MONTH AND WE'LL
SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT.
>> OK, CARL IBOSHI, THANK YOU.
>> NOW DURING THAT INTERVIEW
YOU HEARD THAT MAN JEFF GRAY
TELL KYLE SOMETHING WE KNOW IS
NOT TRUE THAT HE BELIEVES TO BE
TRUE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WON
THE ELECTION.
THE ELECTION. NOW I KNOW WHAT YOU MIGHT BE
THINKING.
THINKING.
THINKING. HOW CAN SOMEONE BELIEVE THAT
LIE AT THIS POINT?
RIGHT .
RIGHT .
RIGHT . WELL, FIRST OFF, I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT HE
IS NOT ALONE IN THINKING THAT
NOWHERE NEAR IT ACTUALLY.
PEW RESEARCH CENTER TOOK A POLL
AFTER THE INSURRECTION BETWEEN
JANUARY 8TH AND 12TH AND THAT
IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE THEN.
BUT THIS WAS THIS WAS
IMMEDIATELY AFTER AND THEY
FOUND THAT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT
OF PEOPLE AT THAT TIME WHO
VOTED FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD
THEM THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT HE
ACTUALLY WON THE ELECTION IN
NOVEMBER WHICH AGAIN IS NOT
TRUE.
TRUE.
TRUE. ONLY TWENTY TWO PERCENT
OF TRUMP VOTERS CORRECTLY
BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN
WON.
WON.
WON. IT'S
WON. IT'S A PRETTY ALARMING
STATISTIC AND EVEN THOUGH THIS
IS A NATIONAL POLL, WE REALLY
DON'T HAVE TO LOOK FAR TO SEE
WHY PEOPLE LOCALLY HERE FIND
THIS MAY BE BELIEVABLE BECAUSE
WE SAW IT WITH THE OFFICIAL ARM
OF OREGON STATE REPUBLICAN
PARTY A DEGREE OF IT JUST A
COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER THE
CAPITAL WAS STORMED, THE OREGON
GOP PUT OUT A STATEMENT CALLING
THAT ASSAULT IN THE CAPITAL A
FALSE FLAG OPERATION WHICH IS
ALSO COMPLETELY UNTRUE.
WE ASKED EVERY STATE REPUBLICAN
LAWMAKER AT THE TIME IN OREGON
TO CONDEMN THIS STATEMENT
AND MOST OF THEM DID EXCEPT FOR
SIX STATE SENATORS WHO THERE
NEITHER NEVER RESPONDED TO US
OR THEY SAID NO COMMENT AND ONE
OF THEM WAS SENATOR DALLAS'
HURD WHO WAS JUST ELECTED TO
CHAIR >> THE OREGON GOP.
SO MY POINT IS FALSE NARRATIVES
DON'T STOP WITH INDIVIDUALS
LIKE THE MAN KYLE SPOKE WITH
WHEN