>>> THIS IS THE SEGMENT FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP APPARENTLY WANTS
US TO BE DISCUSSING HIS ABUSE OF
WEATHER MAPS.
WEATHER MAPS. HE MUST WANT US TO TALK ABOUT IT
BECAUSE HE KEPT TWEETING ABOUT
IT TODAY.
IT TODAY. THE PRESIDENT IS PERSONALLY
KEEPING THIS STORY ALIVE.
THE STORY OF HIM USING A DEFACED
WEATHER MAP TO TRY TO PROVE
HURRICANE DORIAN COULD HAVE
REACHED ALABAMA.
REACHED ALABAMA. WHY IS HE DOING THIS?
WHY DOES HE SO OBVIOUSLY WANT US
TO TALK ABOUT THIS STORY?
IT’S A BAD STORY FOR DONALD
TRUMP, BUT IT DOES SEEM IT MIGHT
BE ONE OF THOSE DELIBERATE TRUMP
AVERSIONS BECAUSE THE STORY WE
TURN TO NOW IS MUCH, MUCH WORSE
FOR DONALD TRUMP.
AND WORSE IN THE VIEW OF TRUMP
VOTERS.
VOTERS. AND THAT IS THE NEW INFORMATION
WE HAVE TONIGHT ABOUT THE MONEY
DONALD TRUMP IS DIVERTING FROM
THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT BUDGET TO
PAY FOR THE WALL HE PROMISED HIS
VOTERS MEXICO WOULD PAY FOR.
>> I WILL HAVE MEXICO PAY FOR
THAT WALL.
THAT WALL. MARK MY WORDS.
MEXICO WILL PAY FOR THE WALL.
BELIEVE ME.
BELIEVE ME. AND -- AND WHO’S GOING TO PAY
FOR THE WALL?
MEXICO.
MEXICO. 100%.
100%. >> HOW IS THE NEXT RALLY GOING
TO FEEL ABOUT CHANTING THE
PENTAGON WILL PAY FOR THE WALL
OR WE WILL PAY FOR THE WALL OR
SCHOOL CHILDREN OF MILITARY
PERSONNEL WILL PAY FOR THE WALL?
THIS IS MUCH WORSE STORY FOR
DONALD TRUMP THAN A FAKE LINE ON
A WEATHER MAP.
THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT IS
DIVERTING $3.6 BILLION AWAY FROM
127 MILITARY CONSTRUCTION
PROJECTS, PROJECTS IN 23 STATES
BEING DEFUNDED TO PAY FOR THE
WALL.
WALL. NINE OF THOSE CONSTRUCTION
PROJECTS ARE FOR BUILDING OR
RENOVATING SCHOOLS FOR THE
CHILDREN OF U.S. MILITARY
PERSONNEL.
PERSONNEL. UTAH, A STATE WITH TWO
REPUBLICAN SENATORS IS LOSING
$54 BILLION IN MILITARY FUNDING
THAT WILL BE SENT TO THE WALL.
ARIZONA SENATOR MARTHA McSALLY
WHO HAS SUPPORTED THE
PRESIDENT’S EMERGENCY
PRESIDENT’S EMERGENCY DECLARATION HE’S USING TO
JUSTIFY THE DIVERSION OF
MILITARY FUNDS IS NOW WATCHING
AN ARMY BASE IN HER STATE LOSE
$30 MILLION TO PAY FOR THE WALL.
AND THAT’S AFTER THE SECRETARY
OF DEFENSE HAD PERSONALLY
ASSURED HER THAT ARIZONA
WOULDN’T LOSE ANY MONEY.
FORMER ASTRONAUT MARK KELLY
RUNNING AS A DEMOCRAT FOR THE
SENATE IN ARIZONA IS ALREADY
POLLING AHEAD OF REPUBLICAN
SENATOR MARKETY McSALLY.
MARK KELLY NOW SAYS SENATOR
McSALLY, QUOTE, DIDN’T KEEP HER
WORD WHEN SHE PROMISED TO
PROTECT FUNDING FOR ARIZONA
MILITARY BASES.
MILITARY BASES. AS LOCAL NEWS STORIES CONTINUE
TO APPEAR IN THE 23 STATES THAT
ARE LOSING MILITARY FUNDING TO
PAY FOR THE WALL, NO REPUBLICAN
SENATOR HAS SUFFERED A HARSHER
JUDGMENT IN THE LOCAL NEWS MEDIA
THAN NORTH CAROLINA REPUBLICAN
SENATOR TOM TILLIS WHO MUST
FIRST SURVIVE A REPUBLICAN
PRIMARY BEFORE ENTERING WHAT
WILL BE A GENERAL ELECTION RACE
NEXT YEAR.
NEXT YEAR. A CHARLOTTE OBSERVER EDITORIAL
SAID THE LOSS OF $80 MILLION IN
MILITARY CONSTRUCTION SPENDING
IN NORTH CAROLINA IS, QUOTE, AN
$80 MILLION PUNCH IN THE GUT AND
A LESSON THAT TOP TILLIS NEVER
SEEMS TO LEARN.
THE LESSONS HERE THERE ARE AT
LEAST A COUPLE.
FIRST, DON’T TRUST THIS
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. DONALD TRUMP WILL NOT HESITATE
TO BURN ANYONE INCLUDING PEOPLE
WHO HELPED HIM TO GET A
POLITICAL VICTORY.
POLITICAL VICTORY. AND ALSO WHEN YOU BUY POLITICAL
FAVOR IN EXCHANGE FOR YOUR
PRINCIPLES THE BILL IS ALWAYS
MORE THAN YOU THOUGHT IT WOULD
BE.
BE. WE’RE JOINED NOW BY TWO HIGHLY
EXPERIENCED POLITICAL
EXPERIENCED POLITICAL JOURNALISTS WHO COULD SURELY
DELIVER THE BEST JOKES ON THIS
PROGRAM ABOUT THE TRUMP WEATHER
MAP BUT HAVE AGREED TO
TEMPORARILY LEAVE THAT TO THE
LATE NIGHT COMEDIANS WHILE THEY
CONCENTRATE ON THE ISSUES THE
PRESIDENT SEEMS TO BE TRYING TO
DIVERT US FROM.
JOHN HEILEMANN, CO-HOST AND
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF SHOW
TIME’S "THE CIRCUS."
AND ONE OF IT THE TRULY GREAT
WRITERS WHO HAS FIXED HIS FOCUS
ON POLITICS AND WE ARE THE
BETTER FOR IT.
AND SAM STEIN JOINS US, AN MSNBC
PLIT ANALYST AND CONTINUES TO
DELIVER SOME OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT REPORTING OF THE TRUMP
ERA ABOUT WHAT THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION IS DOING ABOUT
THE LEVERS OF POWER AND
GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. >> NICE.
>> NICE. >> I MEAN THAT YOU’RE THE ONE
WHO GOES INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT
IN THESE STORIES THAT FEW OF US
FIND THE SPACE TO COVER AND TELL
US WHAT THEY’RE REALLY UP TO.
SO LET’S START WITH YOU ON THIS
QUESTION OF HE WANTS US TO TALK
ABOUT THE HURRICANE MAP BECAUSE
WHAT’S THE THING HE DOESN’T WANT
US TALKING ABOUT?
IS IT THE MILITARY MONEY FOR THE
WALL?
WALL? >> I DON’T BUY THE PREMISE.
I ACTUALLY CHALLENGE THE
PREMISE.
PREMISE. I THINK EARLIER WHEN I WAS
COVERING TRUMP I PROBABLY WOULD
HAVE BOUGHT THE PREMISE, THE
THREE-DIMENSIONAL CHESS.
THREE-DIMENSIONAL CHESS. AND THE DIVERSION OF MILITARY
FUNDS TO THE WALL IS AN
EMBARRASSING STORY, IF ANYTHING,
A COMPLETE ABSENCE OF HIS
CAMPAIGN --
CAMPAIGN -- >> FOR THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
PARTY. >> YEAH, BECAUSE THEY ALLOWED
THIS TO GO THROUGH WITH THE
TRANSFERENCE OF FUNDS.
BUT I’VE COME THROUGH THE
OBSERVATION OF REPORTING THAT
TRUMP IS JUST SORT OF CLINICALLY
INCAPABLE OF MOVING ON FROM
THESE THINGS AND TO HIM THERE’S
NO GREATER SLIGHT THAN BEING
PERCEIVED AS OUT OF TOUCH WITH
REALITY.
REALITY. SO HE’S NOW GONE THROUGH ALMOST
A DOZEN TWEETS, PROCLAMATION
STATEMENTS, WRITTEN UPON MAPS TO
PROVE HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT
ALABAMA.
ALABAMA. AND WHAT’S PARTICULARLY BIZARRE
ABOUT THIS AND WHY I THINK THIS
IS VERY BAD IN ITS OWN RIGHT IS
HE’S DOING IT WHILE OUR COUNTRY
IS STILL DEALING THE HURRICANE.
IT’S NOT LIKE THE HURRICANE IS
PAST.
PAST. NORTH CAROLINA IS ABOUT GETTING
HIT RIGHT NOW.
IT’D BE ONE THING IF WE’D GONE
THROUGH THIS, BUT HE’S LITERALLY
DISTRACTED --
DISTRACTED -- >> I MEANT TO INCLUDE THIS IN
THE PREMISE.
THE PREMISE. I CLING TO THE POSSIBILITY THAT
IT’S BOTH.
IT’S BOTH. IF HE IS OBSESSIVE AND HE HAS
OBSESSIVE BEHAVIOR YOU SEE ALL
THE TIME, BUT HE’S ALSO AWARE
HE’S LOOKING AT THOSE MAP
SEGMENTS AND GOING NO THEY’RE
NOT TALKING ABOUT THE KIDS
SCHOOLS THEY’RE FUNDING.
>> HE’S A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR, THE
PATHOLOGY, HOWEVER, IS TRIGGERED
BY NEWS ON VARIOUS OTHER FRONTS.
THE PATHOLOGY GETS AMPED UP WHEN
HE LOOKS AT THE DOMESTIC
POLITICAL FRONT AT THE POLLING
WHERE HE GETS BEATEN LIKE A GONG
BY NOT JUST JOE BIDEN BUT
FURTHER DOWN THE SCALE
DEMOCRATS.
DEMOCRATS. HE LOOKS ACROSS THE OCEAN AND
SEES HIS FRIEND BORIS JOHNSON
GETTING EATEN ABOUT THE FACE AND
NECK EVERY DAY.
AND THEN HE LOOKS AT THE ECONOMY
WHERE WE HAVE NEWS JUST TODAY,
THIS SURVEY FINANCIAL INDUSTRY
EXECUTIVES DO WHO ARE MORE
PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THE OUTLOOK
AND YOU HAVE DATA COMING OUT
SUGGESTING WE HAVE A LOOMING
RECESSION.
RECESSION. SO ECONOMIC NEWS, POLITICAL
NEWS, FOREIGN NEWS ALL BAD
STORIES FOR DONALD TRUMP.
AND IT AMPS UP THE INSTINCT FOR
PATHOLOGICAL LYING.
PATHOLOGICAL LYING. >> LET ME JUST SAY, IT’S NOT
LIKE THIS IS PARTICULARLY SAVVY
EFFORT IN DIVERSION --
>> I’M NOT THE ONE THAT SAID
THREE
THREE THREE-DIMENSIONAL CHESS --
>> IT DOESN’T TAKE THE LEVEL TO
DIVERT -- GO TO A RALLY
SOMEWHERE.
SOMEWHERE. LEAVE THE OVAL OFFICE.
GO DOWN TO THE BORDER WHERE
THEY’RE BUILDING THE WALL.
THERE ARE THINGS YOU COULD DO AS
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES TO DIVERT ATTENTION IN
MUCH MORE POSITIVE WAYS INSTEAD
OF BRINGING ATTENTION TO
YOURSELF AS SOMEONE INCAPABLE OF
GETTING OVER THE IDEA ALABAMA
MAY HAVE HAD GUSTY WINDS.
>> AS LAWRENCE POINTED OUT HE
LOST THE RALLY CHANT.
THE KEY ELOMT OF THE RALLY IS
BUILD THAT WALL AND MEXICO IS
GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
>> THE GUY CAN MANEUVER THROUGH
THIS.
THIS. IT’S JUST WHAT’S REMARKABLE TO
ME IS HE’S UNABLE TO LITERALLY
GET OUT OF HIS CHAIR AND TRY TO
DO SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN
TWEET AND SAY LOOK AT THIS MAP,
I DREW ON IT.
>> SAM STEIN GETS THE LAST WORD