>>> NOW THE CRIMINAL PROBE AND
HINTS ON WHO MAY TAKE OVER THE
CASE WHEN DA CY VANCE LEAVES IN
DECEMBER.
ARI ASKED HIM ABOUT THE TRUMP
PROBE IF HE COULD POSSIBLY
INHERIT IT.
>> I AM A PUBLIC CORRUPTION
PROSECUTOR, MAJORITY OF THE LEAD
STATE SENATE PROSECUTED TWO
MAYORS, ONE FOR BRIBERY.
I LOAD THE TEAM FOR THE
MISCONDUCT OF THE TRUMP
FOUNDATION.
I GO WHERE THE FACTS GO.
>> THE FACTS SHOW PROSECUTORS
CLOSING IN ON TRUMPS CIRCLE.
NOW EXECUTIVE MATTHEW CALAMARI
USED TO BE HIS BODY GUARD.
CALAMARI KNOWS ALL.
>> HE KNOWS A LOT.
HES BEEN WITH TRUMP THROUGH
THICK AND THIN, EVERY SINGLE
MOVE THAT TRUMP MADE MATTHEW
KNOWS.
HE MAY NOT KNOW ANYTHING
FINANCIAL BUT HE PROBABLY WAS
SITTING AROUND -- TRUMP HAS
DENIED ANY WRONG DOING BUT THE
HEAT IS ON TRUMP, ALAN
WEISSELBERG, WHO WAS REPORTEDLY
GOING TO TRUMP TOWER AND NOT YET
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>>> JOINING ME NOW IS ROBERT
GOTTLIEB, FORMER MANHATTAN
DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND JOY VANCE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I AM GOING TO START WITH YOU MR.
GOTTLIEB
GOTTLIEB, I GOT TO ASK.
HOW ARE MEMBERS OF THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION IS PLAYING RUSSIAN
ROULETTE RIGHT NOW?
WIES BERG
WEISSELBERG THINKS HE CAN GET AWAY AND PLAY THE TOUGH GUY AND
AWAY AND PLAY THE TOUGH GUY AND
PROTECTS HIS BOSS, HES WRONG.
WE DONT KNOW IF WHETHER OR NOT
HE ALREADY COOPERATED FRANKLY.
BUT ASSUMING HES NOT.
IT IS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER A
YEAR.
THE DA HAS GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS
OF FIGHTING THE BATTLE FOR TAX RECORDS, SUBPOENAS, IN COURT ALL
RECORDS, SUBPOENAS, IN COURT ALL
THE WAY UP TO THE SUPREME COURT.
ALL CHARGES HAD BEEN ABOUT HIS
CHILDREN AND WHETHER TAXES WERE
PAID ON GIFTS OR APARTMENTS?
THE DA IS GOING TO PULL THE
TRIGGER AND INDICT HIM AS PART
OF THE INVESTIGATION TO GET
TRUMP.
THEYRE GOING TO INDICT HIM ON
CRIMES THAT BY EVERYTHING WE
KNOW INVOLVES TRUMP.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TAX FRAUD,
INSURANCE FRAUD, FALSIFYING
BUSINESS RECORD AND BANK FRAUD.
IF HES CHARGED WITH THAT, HES
JUST DEAD WRONG AND THINKING.
HES GOING TO GET AWAY WITH JUST A SLAP ON THE WRIST.
A SLAP ON THE WRIST.
>> ALL OF THIS PROSECUTION
PRESSING WEISSELBERG, I WANT TO
PLAY YOU SOME SOUND FROM TRUMPS
DEPOSITION.
WELL COME BACK ON HOW YOU THINK
TRUMP WILL RESPOND ON THE
INCREASE HEAT ON SOMEBODY LIKE WEISSELBERG.
>> I DONT HAVE ANY GLASSES WITH
ME.
>> THE WITNESS CANT READ THE
LANGUAGE.
>> IT IS VERY SMALL WRITING.
I CAN MAKE IT OUT.
DO YOU WANT ME TO TRY?
>> I SEE THIS AND THIS TO ME IS
TRUMP BASICALLY ACTING LIKE
UNCLE JUNIOR AND THE"THE SOPRANO
I CANT READ OR CONFUSE IN ORDER
TO AVOID PROSECUTION.
LOOKS TO ME THAT TRUMP IS GOING
TO PLAY DUMB OR ANY PERSON WHO
TRIES TO TURN EVIDENCE ON HIM.
ARE THESE PEOPLE BEING LOYAL THAT THEY THINK AT SOME POINT
THAT THEY THINK AT SOME POINT
TRUMP IS GOING TO HELP THEM?
>> LISTEN, THATS BEEN THE
MILLION DOLLARS QUESTION FOR
YEARS ANDS YEARS.
WHY IN HEAVENS NAME DO PEOPLE
WILLING TO GIVE THEIR LIFE AND
MORALITY FOR DONALD TRUMP.
I AM GOING TO BET IF HE DECIDES
TO PLAY THE TOUGH GUY AND NOT
COOPERATE, HE HAS THIS DEAL THAT
THERE IS SOME HONOR IN IT AND HE
DOES NOT WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO
HURT THE PERSON WHO BOUGHT HIS
SILENCE.
HES WRONG BECAUSE I THINK WE
HAVE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN TRUMP WILL SELL YOU DOWN THE
TRUMP WILL SELL YOU DOWN THE
RIVER LIKE THAT.
HE CAN SPEND THE REST OF HIS
LIFE IN JAIL.
SO WHEN THE TIME COMES, I AM
WILLING TO BET DONT BE SO QUICK
TO ASSUME THAT HELL NOT
COOPERATE.
IF NOT COOPERATING ALREADY.
>> JOYCE, IP WANT TO ASK YOU
THIS.
ALL THESE OTHER NAMES HAVE CAME
OUT, NOW WE GOT KALAMARI AND
WEISSELBERG.
KALAMARI IS A FORMER BODY GUARD.
LAY OUT TO OUR AUDIENCE WHATS
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF YET SOMEBODY
ELSE WHO SUPPOSEDLY DIRECTING
THE MONEY BEING UNDER
INVESTIGATION, IS THAT A REAL CHANGE OR JUST A STANDARD
CHANGE OR JUST A STANDARD
PROSECUTION AT THIS POINT?
>> THEY INTENTIONALLY ENGAGE IN
FRAUD AND THEY HAD KNOWLEDGE OF
FRAUD AND PROSECUTORS WERE
ENTITLED TO USE CIRCUMSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE.
THE BEST EVIDENCE YOU CAN GET
FROM THESE CASES IS SOMEONE
WORKING WITH THE DEFENDANT AND
TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY DID ON A
DAILY BASIS AND WHAT THEY
PRIVATELY ACKNOWLEDGED.
IT IS NO SURPRISE THAT
PROSECUTORS ARE LOOKING AT
PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL
AROUND TRUMP.
LIKE ROBERT, I AM A LITTLE
DIAGNOSTIC AND SUSPICIOUS OF
THIS ERRORINGREPORTING THAT SAYS
WEISSELBERG IS NOT ALREADY
COOPERATING.
OF COURSE THATS POSSIBLE BUT IT
IS ACTUALLY POSSIBLE THAT
PROSECUTORS ARE USING
INVESTIGATIVE TOOLS THAT MAKE
THEM DISINCLINE PERHAPS TO FOCUS
ON WHO THEY MAY ALREADY HAVE
COOPERATION FROM.
YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY
WITNESSES OF SOMEONES STATE OF
MIND.
THE MORE THE BETTER.
NO ONE KNOWS IT BETTER THAN THE
MAN PRESUMABLY BECOMES THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY FORMAT MANHATT AFTER CY VANCE STEPS DOWN FOR
AFTER CY VANCE STEPS DOWN FOR
THE YEAR.
>> I AM GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH
THAT.
WHEN YOU GET INTO THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY WHO COMES UP WITH A
CASE THIS BIG, IS THERE A DELAY?
WELL GIVE YOU A STACK OF PAPER,
AND HERE YOU GO? HAS HE ALREADY BEEN BRIEFED ON
HAS HE ALREADY BEEN BRIEFED ON
THIS PROCESS AND WELL SEE A
SMOOTH TRANSITION.
AS WE HAVE SEEN THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT AND SOME OTHER AREAS,
A NEW ATTORNEY MAY HAVE A
DIFFERENT STRATEGY OR
PERSPECTIVE THAT MAY SLOW DOWN
THE INVESTIGATION.
>> WELL, YOU DONT BRIEF PEOPLE
UP ON CASES BEFORE THEY TAKE THE
OATH OF OFFICE FOR A LOT OF
REASONS.
>> RIGHT.
>> THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
HAVING A NEW SHERIFF COMING TO
TOWN AND HAVING A NEW LEAD
PROSECUTORS BEING DROPPED IN ON
A CASE.
HERE YOU GOT THE NEW BOSS FOR
THE OFFICE, SOMEONE WHO
CERTAINLY WHOS GOING TO REVIEW
AND TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS.
HELL LEAVE THE PROSECUTION TEAM
INTACT AND WHATEVER CHARGING
DECISIONS THEY MADE WHILE HE MAY
WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM, HELL LET THEM MOVE FORWARD WITH
HELL LET THEM MOVE FORWARD WITH
THE PROCESS THATS ALREADY
UNDERWAY.
>> JOYCE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THIS HAS BEEN AND NOW A JOINT
INVESTIGATION INVOLVING MANHATTAN DA AS WELL AS THEEW
MANHATTAN DA AS WELL AS THEEW
YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL.
I AGREE, I DONT FORESEE HES
GOING TO UPROOT AND CHANGE THE
COURSE OF THIS INVESTIGATION.
>> WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE DONE
WITH THIS.