welcome back to tech yes city and today
we have a stock out of the box cooler comparison here
between intel and amd and this is
brought about by intel
well at least what they're claiming is
their new included box cooler
which they decided to start introducing
with the 10th generation i7
and i9 non-k processors but have since
included it now
with the i5 lineup and that being of
course the most important cpu in their
11th gen lineup
the 11400f however this cooler right
here even though intel
claims it's new the only thing i'm
seeing new about this
is literally the paint job where they've
made it black and they've changed the
logo
to gray instead of putting a sticker on
so this thing here weighs in at 223
grams and ironically enough the older
cooler right here from second and third
gen
intel cpus which was included with their
i5 and i7 products
say for instance an i5 2400 this one
weighed in at 226 grams and it also has
the copper slug in the middle so very
similar
i don't think intel have done anything
new here but looking back through
intel's history of
box coolers they actually used to give
you a lot more cooler
included in the box this here being one
of the old-school generation
x58 stock coolers it has a different
socket mounting mechanism
but they also included similar sizes to
this cooler right here
in things like x79 and also lga 775
processors but after what some would
consider the golden days of cpu
evolution
intel then decided to cut costs and we
went down to this 220 ram cooler right
here and then subsequently even on i3s
and lower power consumption cpus they
even dropped in a 170 gram cooler
without even having the copper slug in
the middle so
looks like we've gone through this down
curve and now we're on the way up a
little bit
but some say this wouldn't have been
possible without the introduction
of amd's ryzen and their box coolers
where i'm holding here the race stealth
and we're also gonna be testing out the
wraith
prism and i'll put the weights and specs
of these cpu coolers
up on the screen here for you guys but
what we're going to be doing here today
is we're going to be checking two
different levels of power consumption
and that is 65 watts and 100 watts and
we're gonna have a cooler box cooler
around robin
to see the noises and temperatures of
these cpus
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links in description below so after
beginning the test between the amd
and intel coolers i realized this was
not going to work properly unless i had
the same base constant
and in this case that was using the
intel cpu but we had the problem
of mounting the coolers that wouldn't
fit properly on the intel cpu namely
the ryzen cpu coolers so i decided to do
a cool experiment
where we're now using the intel extreme
tuning utility
which has the option to manually set
your power limits on the cpu
so this can give us an apples-to-apples
comparison between the actual power
being output by the cpu
and the temperatures incurred by the cpu
cooler however since the cpu we are
using in today's comparison is the
11400f
it does have two different states that
it likes to switch between
the 65 watt state and also the 100 watt
state the 100 watt state is pretty much
around the max level of performance
for the 4.2 gigahertz all core when
we're running a test like cinebench r20
for example
however when we're gaming this cpu can
go up to 75 watts
and we will talk about this more in an
upcoming video but we've also talked
about in the h510 video that we recently
did where i'll put
the link to that video up here however
for what it is worth the 65 watt limit
will remain on some h510s especially
and possibly even some b560 motherboards
so it is important in my opinion to test
all today's coolers
at these two different wattage settings
however let the test begin
and let's get you guys some numbers
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so now the testing is finished you may
have a question before going into these
results and that is how do you get a
ryzen cpu cooler to mount on an intel
cpu socket that is the lga 1200 and even
the lga
old-school cooler to mount in this
socket even though the coolers won't fit
and the answer to this is i actually
just applied careful pressure
on the cpu and the cooler itself and
that gave us
accurate results where we tested it 25
degrees ambient temperatures
and what we'll see with the results is
we'll pull the 100 watt results up first
and here we saw that the raised prism
was doing a fantastic
job on the temperatures though i have
included the noise levels
because it is important to note that the
fans out of the box will spin
at different levels and of course
inherent to the fan that's been used
on the cooler itself you will get
different noise
even if you have the same rpm just
because there's different fans being
used
on the coolers themselves but what we're
seeing move over to the race stealth
is that's a very quiet cooler even at
this 100 watt
level where it goes up to 88 degrees but
it did get
some of the lowest noise in today's
comparison
however looking at the previous
generation 170 gram cooler
that maxed out at 33 decibels so it was
extremely quiet
but unfortunately it did start thermal
throttling at 100 watts
however looking at the black cooler a
little bit more in depth we can see that
it does beat out
the second and third gen cooler that
does have similar weight
and also has the copper slug beaded out
by about six degrees
but this was coming in with a much lower
noise level of 42 decibels versus 50
decibels
though even more impressive was the og
cooler the big
intel stock cooler that they've included
with older generation cpus
and that was giving out 38 decibels so
beat out both the second gen and also
the new black cooler
quite substantially when we look at it
from a noise and temperature perspective
if what it's worth i thought the race
stealth was actually winning this
comparison believe it or not
being that it had a really low noise
level and the temperatures were still
absolutely fine although the 88 degrees
may seem a little bit hot it's actually
fine where it's still got another 12
degrees until it starts thermal
throttling and as long as you keep it
under that level
it's still going to perform at its
maximum performance level it also did
throw on an h159i
rgb platinum just for reference to see
how good
water cooling can get although it is
kind of irrelevant in this case because
the water cooler itself will cost more
than the cpu
in questions though it does prove one
thing that is the statement pay to win
is true indeed they're stepping things
down to 65
watts which is a limit imposed on some
h510 motherboards
also if you're using older cpus like the
10400f
this will be a relevant comparison even
when we look at something like the ryzen
5 3600
that i believe will use around 45 watts
when it comes to
playing games so any of these coolers
here in today's comparison
will do a fine job of keeping the
temperatures under control
even the 170 gram cooler came in at 33
decibels and went up to 91 degrees
so that was the quietest of the bunch
and then from here we can see that the
black cooler came in with a decent
temperature level but it was still
running
at the loudest of all the coolers in
today's comparison
so the noise levels did concern me a bit
about this new intel cooler to the point
where 50 decibels might annoy people
because it is quite a loud noise
coming out of this cooler whereas we
look at the wraith stealth that did a
phenomenal job of handling
the temperatures at around 70 degrees
but also coming in with 34 decibels of
noise then the race prism ended up
dropping the noise levels down further
from the 100 watt level
but also dropped the temperatures down 7
degrees and the og
intel cooler came out here with a
massive wind of 62 degrees
and still maintaining some very
impressive noise levels now the previous
second gen cooler in my opinion
got even though it got five degrees
hotter it did maintain
much lower noise levels than that of the
all black cooler so after analyzing
those results
i can conclude that the old black cooler
here from intel
is not doing that good of a job
when it comes to especially keeping the
noise levels down those noise levels
were actually quite bad but the
temperatures were okay they were
mediocre
i would say if anything the race stealth
did a much better job
because i could barely hear it when it
came to the actual noise levels
and looking even back at the second and
third gen cooler and then even the
lightweight 170 gram cooler those did
much better in terms of noise levels
however there were reports coming in
people were saying okay brian the all
black cooler
does throttle the 11400f i didn't see
any throttling due to the cooler itself
if you're looking at throttling on the
11400f
that would be mainly due to the
motherboard and the boost limits in
place especially if there's a 65 watt
limit in place
you do have to make sure that you remove
that and the only way i found to remove
that
on the h510 motherboard was to disable
that tau
and then up the manual settings to 100
watts and that seemed to alleviate the
problem even though
if you have a z590 for example you will
get slightly higher performance
because it will boost over just over 100
watts
but this will only mainly be limited to
cinebench for example where you're using
the avx-2 instruction sets
and it will slightly boost higher than
100 watts momentarily so you'll probably
see that you will get slightly higher
results on the z590 than an h510
especially if that h510 motherboard or
even a b560 has a 100 watt limit in
place it's not actually the fault of
this cooler this cooler will even handle
108 watts and do a fine job without the
cpu
throttling itself one thing i did notice
was that there was no thermal
constraints
put in place in terms of our testing
setup we just used an open-air testbed
25 degrees ambience so if you do have a
case that is very limited in airflow
which
i believe would be a possible scenario
because a lot of people
buying the 11400f combo especially if
they're using h510
i'm probably going to cheap out on the
case but one thing i'll say is if you're
going to cheap out on the case
just make sure you leave a side panel
off that's one thing to keep in mind but
back to the all black cooler i feel as
if intel
have upped the fan speeds at the cost of
noise but also when we look
at the noise levels compared to the
other fans used in today's comparison
i feel as if they've used a cheaper fan
than previous generations
however considering the price of the
11400f and considering you get this in
the box and it does look a lot better
i don't think it's a bad thing the
11400f especially in today's market
where things are inflating at crazy
prices i'd say the 11400f
is actually a shining gem that should be
considered especially if you are on a
budget
but for what it's worth if i had the
choice between both these cpu coolers
the race stealth and the all black
i'd pick the race stealth just due to
having a much quieter noise profile out
of the box and the thing is i decided to
test the out of the box
profiles because if you're buying the
cpus and using the respective cpu
coolers
that's what you're going to get out of
the box anyway guys with that aside i
hope you enjoyed today's video
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enjoy the cpu cooler showdown
or if you didn't just let us know too i
mean i always like feedback
just like this question of the day here
which comes from crash test dummy
and they ask now ram speed depends on
pcb
thickness wtf intel just unlock
everything already
and my sentiments with this is the exact
same as crash test dummy
i think intel just need to stop doing
these kind of little things where
they've
basically implemented a limit on h510
motherboards where
if the manufacturer only uses a four
layer pcb there's a limit of 2933
megahertz as opposed to a six layer pcb
there's a 3200 megahertz
memory limit on the 11th gen chips now
the 10th gen chips they've still got at
least from the h510 tesla did
they've still got a 2666 limit so
there's no reason for intel to
put these limits in place just unlock
them already
and give people more value for money i
don't think it's a hard thing to do
since the person's already invested in
intel you should be grateful that
they've gone
for an intel cpu motherboard and not an
amd cpu on motherboard i mean for intel
and the marketing reps out there they
really need to take a look at customer
loyalty
and realize at the moment with intel
it's the antonym
of customer loyalty so you guys need to
make your brand name
synonymous with customer loyalty and
that means you're doing
the best by the customer but hey what
would i know i'm just a dude
pulling clips off an amd race stealth
cooler and with that aside if you guys
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