what the next u.s president is going to do in terms of china policy is obviously a somewhat
relevant issue and it's an issue that the chinese communist party has been considering
right which is obviously they haven't loved the last four years of u.s china policy and not just
the chinese communist party but there's a lot of corporate interests that would really like to see
things go back to the way things were before the trump administration as well right i mean not just
corporate interests i think there's universities who want to work with chinese universities
um confucius institute think tanks uh you know like there are a lot of people who are invested in
um u.s china engagement so definitely and we've seen the king of uh u.s china cooperation
henry kissinger rear his head again you know he's 97 years old i was just wondering how old
he was yeah yeah i mean he he he doesn't look young but i mean he's he's in good shape for
a 97 year old it's amazing what adrenochrome can do am i right i don't know what that is
is it something that's going to bring us down like a weird rabbit hole again
let's carry on okay look like i don't know what it is but like in context i know it's one of
those things that you would find on 4chan no no no is this an alex jones reference uh
let's just say it's a reference to uh maze runner my favorite movies okay okay so it's
something totally different i thought it was going to be something that like alex jones
sells on his show wow like that's what i thought okay uh wow if he does
i mean who knows what's in super male vitality uh so uh what a us china policy
no no we have to go back to kissinger because yeah well i mean that is u.s china policy but go on
i mean he is responsible in large part for decades of u.s china policy i mean i think even
trump had gotten advice from kissinger like i think he's advised pretty much every sitting
president since nixon wow on china policy so yeah and also i think that his china policy
in the 1970s was based on the the geostrategic needs of the us at the time in the height of
the cold war or the soviet union was perceived as a very serious threat the soviet union was
funding these kind of communist cells around the world and kissinger and nixon hoped that
by establishing warmer ties with communist china it would be a counterbalance to the i guess at
the time arguably worse communism the soviet union well i mean it was also that the us was directly
competing against and in the cold war with the soviet union and china was kind of
not directly involved right they didn't have the kind of military they have nowadays
yeah i mean i i think that at the time the chinese communist party wasn't really a threat i mean
yes the u.s had kind of you know had been involved in the war over gene men the little taiwan island
that had been bombarded with shells and stuff by mainland china but like besides that there wasn't
that level of conflict and there certainly wasn't a concern that china had a modern
military well i mean they were still just got done killing a bunch of their own people
yeah and they still haven't stopped that tree they really haven't tried so they haven't stopped but
they killed different people now well so the point is like you're saying that maybe
at the time the sort of kissinger style school of thought about how
the u.s should deal with china may have made sense but in the 21st century it's stupid
so kissinger came out and said at the
uh bloomberg new world forum new economic forum the bloomberg news new world order
hidden agenda okay do you want to get us banned from youtube
oh gosh no uh i i should say this is a result of them going on vacation
and me staying here and working i'm a little on edge okay i need a break maybe we should
take the coffee away it's a hot chocolate with espresso that's so coffee yes but with sugar
all right we're off to a good start okay so at the bloomberg new economic forum
which by the way the the funniest thing about that is you go to their website and one of the first
things you see is like a little like qr code in the corner that's like join the conversation about
the bloomberg new economic forum on wechat which the us is called a national security threat uh
and then you scroll down and it's like leadership and then it's henry kissinger and hank paulson the
former us treasury secretary uh and which there's tony blair was there former uk prime minister uh
hank paulson was with which bank before he became treasury secretary i don't know but if i had to
guess goldman sachs no well there's just so many goldman people end up becoming treasury secretary
but anyway does anyway he was one with one of the big banks yeah yeah so it was really you know
just like a picture and the bloom of course it's michael bloomberg
and they had um this is the third year of the bloomberg new economic forum and the first year
it was held in singapore in the second year was held in beijing so you kind of get a sense of
what this is all about from all this so uh what did kissinger say
why don't you tell us shelley i don't have the exact quotes in mind he was quoted i think i
sent this link to you because it was um in cgtn or like it was like a chinese state-run media
that was quoting kissinger saying that the us and china need to go back to cooperating again
you