SEE YOU AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR
FOR THE FRIDAY EDITION OF
"AMERICA REPORTS."
>> Harris: AN HOUR OF
BREAKING NEWS HERE ON
"OUTNUMBERED" AND IT CONTINUES
AS WE GET A MORE MATERIALS THAT
THE JUDGE HAS RELEASED IN THE
PAUL PELOSI ATTACK IN
SAN FRANCISCO AT THE HOME HE
SHARED WITH HIS WIFE, FORMER
SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE,
NANCY PELOSI.
AND UNLIKE WHEN WE FIRST SAW
THIS VIDEO COMING IN, IT IS NOT
JUST SURVEILLANCE VIDEO OUTSIDE
THE HOME, NOW WE GET TO SEE
INSIDE THE HOME IN THE ATTACK
EXACTLY AS IT WAS ABOUT TO
HAPPEN AND MOVES INTO MOTION
WITH POLICE TRYING TO BREAK IT
UP AND SAY OF PAUL PELOSI’S
LIFE.
I’M GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE LEAD
UP THIS TIME, THIS IS GRAPHIC,
AND THIS IS DURING, THIS HAS
JUST BEEN RELEASED, WE WILL
SHARE IT NOW.
>> HEY, GUYS.
>> HOW ARE YOU DOING?
>> WHAT IS GOING ON, MAN?
>> HI, DROP THE HAMMER.
>> NO.
>> HATE, HATE, HATE.
>> NOT GETTING AN ANSWER.
>> GETTING CALL BACK. WHOA, WHOA.
WHOA, WHOA.
>> I GOT THEM, MICHAEL.
>> REPORTING BACKUP, CODE THREE.
>> CODE THREE BACKUP AND ASSISTANCE.
>> AND NOW GOING FOR 14.
--
WE NEED TEN MEDIC CODE AS WELL.
YOU GOT IT?
>> THE MEDIC CODE 3.
>> Harris: ALL RIGHT, WE ARE
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT NOT ONLY
WHAT WE SEE, BUT WHAT WE HEAR,
BECAUSE YOU SEE A SHOE LIFTED, A
TENNIS SHOE THAT WE THINK IS OF
THE SUSPECT, DAVID DePAPE, AND
HE ALSO IS --
SO PERHAPS TASER AND WAS
INVOLVED THERE, BUT WHAT WE KNOW
IS THE LIFTING OF THE HAMMER,
YOU SEE THAT ATTACK.
>> Todd: ONE THING THAT STOOD
OUT ON THE SECOND VIEWING, I
DON’T KNOW IF YOU GO SAW THIS,
BUT PELOSI, HE HAS TETHERED TO
DePAPE, BUT HE ALMOST GOES FOR
THE REST OF DePAPE, TO TRY TO
PREVENT DePAPE FROM COMMITTING
THE ACT, SO TO ME THAT WOULD
LIKE TO A CERTAIN EXEMPT EXTEND
LOAD UP THE WINDUP AND ULTIMATE
HIP, WE DON’T KNOW THE MEDICALS
AT THIS POINT IN CONJUNCTION
WITH THE VIDEO, BUT PURE
SPECULATION, IF THAT SLOW DOWN
THE FORCE AND WE HAVE TALKED
ABOUT HOW MUCH FORCE HE WAS
USING TRYING TO BREAK IN, THAT
MAY HAVE SAVED PELOSI’S LIFE.
>> Emily: WHAT COUNTERS THAT
IS THE FACT THAT PAUL WAS PULLED
AWAY, SO WHAT IS
COUNTERINTUITIVE IS YOU LEAN
INTO A PUNCH, AND LEAN INTO
BLOW, BECAUSE THE FORCE IS
ABSORBED TO BE FOR THE BRUNT OF
IT, EARLIER, SOONER, SO WE SAW
PAUL JERK AWAY, THERE WERE SORT
OF THAT STRUGGLE THAT IT SEEMED,
HE WAS INITIALLY TETHERED,
WHETHER HE WAS HOLDING HIM, OR
THE ZIP TIES WERE INVOLVED, HE
YANKS PARIS, PULLS BACK AND THEN
AFTER THAT HORRIFIC WINDUP THAT
WE SAW ENGAGING IN, I THINK THE
BRUNT OF A FULL ARC IS WHAT I’M
TRYING TO SAY, BECAUSE PAUL
PELOSI HAD PULLED AWAY.
AND WE SAW EARLY A BRUTE FORCE
AGAINST WHAT WAS A TALL BUT OLD EARLY -- ELDERLY GENTLEMAN, WITH
EARLY -- ELDERLY GENTLEMAN, WITH
A FRAGILE SKELETON MERE
SECONDS UNFOLDING WHERE IT IS
CLEAR
TO UNTANGLE WHAT IS GOING ON
HERE, BECAUSE THE VOICES
IS TRYING TO DOWNPLAY THE SITUATION WHERE
THIS WEAPON IS IN THE MIDDLE OF
IT ALL.
AND THEN IT UNFOLD AS YOU
MENTION, PELOSI HIMSELF PROBABLY
TOOK ACTIONS THAT HELP SAVE HIS
LIFE.
>> Harris: KENNEDY.
>> Kennedy: TRYING TO
DE-ESCALATE COMING OUT, TRYING
TO ASSESS WHAT HAPPENED CALMLY
INSTEAD OF FREAKING THE SUSPECT
OUT AND HAVING IT BURST INTO
ACTION EVEN SOONER.
HE HAD MORE MENTAL CLARITY THAN
I THINK HAD BEEN ASSIGNED TO HIM
WHEN WE WERE FIRST HEARING ABOUT
THAT.
BUT ALSO LOOKING AT THIS, I
STILL DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY
KEPT TO THIS FROM PUBLIC VIEW,
YES, IT IS DISTURBING, BUT ALL
OF THESE THINGS WOULD HAVE
HELPED TO DEPOLITICIZE THE
NARRATIVE HERE, AND I THINK THAT
THAT’S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, AND
IT ALSO -- IT’S INFORMATIVE FOR
OTHER PEOPLE WHO HOLD HIGH
OFFICE THAT YOU HAVE TO PROTECT
YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILIES
BETTER.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT
TODAY ARE A CRAZY EVIL PEOPLE
WHO INTEND TO DO GREAT HARM,
UNFORTUNATELY.
>> Harris: I REFUSE TO
BELIEVE, AND IT IS JUST HARD TO
FATHOM, KENNEDY, THAT WITH ALL
OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY RISK
DOCUMENTS AND ALL OF THE THINGS
THAT PEOPLE IN CONGRESS READ,
THAT THEY DON’T ALREADY KNOW
THAT.
THE SPEAKER SOMETIMES YOU DON’T
KNOW IT UNTIL YOU SEE IT,
SOMETIMES YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT IS
POSSIBLE FOR ONE HUMAN BEING TO
DO TO SOMEONE YOU KNOW AND LOVE
UNTIL YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING
BEFORE YOUR EYES.
>> Harris: ALL RIGHT, TODD,
TEN SECONDS.
A >> Todd: I THINK PAUL PELOSI
DESERVES A LOT OF CREDIT, WE
DON’T KNOW WHAT LED UP TO THIS,
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE HE DEESCALATED
THE SITUATION UP UNTIL THAT
POINT, AND THAT MAY HAVE IN FACT
SAVED HIS LIFE.
>> Harris: WE WILL WAIT TO
FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT IS IN THE
OTHER MATERIALS, THE
INVESTIGATIVE MATERIALS THAT THE
JUDGE ALSO ORDERED RELEASED