And this is amazing timing as the Hunter's plea deal falls apart, that suddenly
these new charges on Trump just happen to arrive, and then what are they about?
Surveillance cameras?
What's wrong with that?
Are those yours?
Why can't you clear them?
I don't understand that.
They're not like other people's emails that disappear.
But I'll leave that for another time because I'm not a lawyer.
I'm more like a game show host.
>> Speaker 2: Okay.
>> Speaker 3: [LAUGH] I'll say, Cenk, you and I have both gone to law school.
I think we could tell him exactly what's wrong with this hypothesis there.
>> Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look,
the reason why they do crazy stuff like this on Fox News is because they
think their audience won't get it,like they'll buy that.
So let me clarify.
Trump had already received a subpoena saying, do not destroy evidence.
Trump then called Oliveira, we talked about it earlier in today's show,
that's the new guy that was charged, and said, destroy evidence.
Get rid of the tapes because the government wants them, and
it'll prove that we did the crime that they're talking about.
And then Oliveira went to go talk to the IT guy.
The IT guy said, I can't.
First of all, I don't even know how to destroy them.
Second of all, even if I did,
I'm pretty sure we're not supposed to destroy them, right?
It was supposed to be pretty clear the government told us not to destroy them,
otherwise we go to prison.
Now, Greg Gutfeld is admittedly an idiot, but really, he doesn't know that?
Like, he read that story?
Did he read the story?
Did he know there was a subpoena?
So I think that there's a good chance that Gutfeld knows exactly what Trump
did wrong, but he throws that out there because he knows that then the Fox News
audience will go to all their friends and family and social media and, no,
he's just erasing his own videos.
That's totally okay.
Wow, we got the ring on our house, man, why can't we erase that?
You can erase it.
Unless you committed a crime, and the cops told you not to erase it.
That's hard to understand?
Not hard to understand, right?
>> Speaker 4: I think the funniest thing about that whole exchange or
that whole dialogue is the very last thing he said where he said, I'm not a lawyer,
I'm a game show host.
Because Donald Trump is a game show host.
You know what I'm saying,
it's almost as if he was throwing a jab at him right there.
Obviously, he wasn't.
But at the end of the day, Republican voters, Republican politicians,
could simply move on from Donald Trump.
They could simply pick somebody else.
Because after 2024, there's nothing left.
Trump ain't running for another office, he's not in another office, the Senate,
anything.
He's not running for president again after 2024.
He's almost certainly not going to win the General election,
as he's almost certainly going to get indicted maybe two, three,
five more times before November comes along.
Part of his issues will continue to be campaign finance violations.
How much money did he raise for candidates that he endorsed and
he barely gave any money to those campaigns?
Money that he raised for his legal defenses that he didn't use.
All the money that he hoards.
You all could simply just move on, which is really,
I'm curious to see what exactly Republicans are gonna do after 2024.
Because it's just endless pivoting, endless kicking the can down the road,
endless shifting the goalpost.
At first Trump was innocent, but now he's not.
So now we have to say two wrongs, in fact, do make a right?
Look at Biden, look at the Biden crime family.
Look at all this other stuff that's happening.
More and more they're not saying Trump is innocent.
They're just deflecting to say, well, look at what all these other people are doing.
When at the end of the day, like I said before, y'all could just move on.
But nah, they ain't having that.
>> Speaker 2: So I tweeted or I X'd, now I don't know.
>> Don't say that, you tweeted it.
>> Yeah, earlier today, and
apparently X going to get it, anyways [LAUGH].
No, but seriously, I asked the right wingers because,
my Twitter account is followed by thousands of right wingers, right?
And I say, Guys, how about a crime in the future?
I know you say, what about Hunter Biden's laptop,
about any crimes he did in the past.
But are you guys okay with letting him commit crimes in the future?
What if we find out, for example, that he still has documents?
And when the government very clearly said you have to hand over the documents and
is now trying him for not handing over documents, what if he still has them?
Would you then say, okay, that's a crime?
I read it, almost every one of them is like, no way, man, no way.
Like, he just apparently can commit any crime and they're okay with it.
But Jackson's right.
I think part of the reason that Greg Gutfeld says what he
says there is because they're out of excuses.
So, they're like, well, these guys are on tape moving the boxes.
They told the FBI they weren't moving the boxes, and
now it looks like they're probably gonna get one of the guys to flip.
And he's gonna say the tech guy, or
probably very likely already said it, then Olivera's next.
Yeah, the boss ordered them to delete the evidence, which is a significant crime.
So that's why Gutfeld's like, I mean, you can delete evidence, can't you?
I'm not a lawyer or anything, it's your tab, all right?
Cuz that means you're out of excuses.
And then the other thing is what I said earlier,
which is that they think so poorly of their own audience.
And they think they'll buy anything.
We'll just tell them, yeah, sure, you can shred evidence, that's not a crime,
and they'll believe it.
>> Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Cuz I have to be perfectly honest,
what Gutfeld said was stupidest I've ever heard in my life.
I listen to Fox News Idiocracy to make my rebel HQ videos.
I was saying in the break that my recommendeds are just filled with Gutfeld
clips on YouTube because of how often I use him and dismantle his arguments.
But you have to be the absolute lowest common denominator to hear him say ongoing
litigation, you should be able to just shred your documents, right?
You should just be able to delete evidence.
Because the Federal Rules of Evidence says it's even more strict than that if
you think there might be potential litigation over a certain event.
You can't destroy any potential evidence.
You can't destroy any documents, any video footage, any pictures,
whatever it might be, pertaining to that even potential future litigation.
This was ongoing.
He had been indicted and did this.
To say that to your audience, you have to think that they are the stupidest person.
They must forget how to breathe, they're so
stupid to buy into that line of thinking.
>> Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, by the way, we're not saying that.
Gutfeld's saying that through his actions.
Look, guys, he even threw in something that was amazing there.
He's like, yeah, like some people deleting things from servers.
It was a Hillary Clinton reference.
You know how upset the right wing was about that, right?
I mean, she deleted those emails from the server.
Lock her up, they chanted, literally lock her up.
They wanted to put her in prison.
They were very gang about it.
That is a crime you should go to prison for.
Do you know what Trump asked in this exact situation?
He asked Olivera and the IT guy to delete the evidence from the server.
Identical.
Except it's much worse because Hillary Clinton was not subpoenaed at the time,
and Hillary Clinton didn't have top secret documents that Trump had, and
the government had not asked for them.
So Trump's is identical but much worse for all those reasons.
And here they are.
They're like, let him go, let him go.
>> Speaker 4: And not only is it worse, but
then you have all these other instances and
all these other cases that are completely unrelated, but just as aggregious.
And Trump, one of his biggest issues is he's used to dealing with all these civil
cases and these civil issues, but now he's got all these federal problems on his
head, and I'm really shanked, do you think he's gonna go to jail?
What do y'all think?
I don't really necessarily think, but again, all these federal charges,
how can you escape?
Who ever escapes all of these types of federal charges?
>> Speaker 4: No.
>> So, he can do all this pandering to the public that he wants, but in court, like,
you point out all the time, how are you going to escape all these charges?
>> Speaker 2: So, guys, look, if the elites didn't get away with everything in
this country, he would definitely go to prison.
It's not close.
If you're a regular person, they got him dead to rights, man.
You got clear evidence that he's destroying evidence.
You've got clear evidence that he did not turn over documents.
You've got clear evidence that he knew it was classified and
he was still sharing it.
On and on, let alone the other cases, okay?
But ironically, and this is the biggest irony, so
that's why I'm glad you asked that question, jackson,
Trump is not going to go to prison because he's among the elites.
So, like the Maga guys go, this is politicized, and
they're just doing this coz he's running for president.
There's half truth to that.
If he wasn't running for office again,
I bet they wouldn't have charged him with half these crimes.
And is that the right thing to do?
No, they should have charged him with these crimes no matter what because
he broke those laws.
But they never charge the powerful, they never charge the rich, right?
And that's why Maga is like, okay,
this is the one time you're gonna charge the rich and powerful?
Yes, but what do you want him to do?
Just let him go, even though we know he broke those laws?
So, if the 2024 election comes and goes, and Trump is out of politics for
good, my guess is that they're gonna find a way.
They're gonna find a way to make sure he doesn't go to prison.
Another Republican can pardon him, I'm telling you, I said this before,
there's some chance that if Joe Biden wins, he'll pardon him.
They don't let the elites go to jail, it just doesn't happen.
And Maga, I got news for you guys.
Your leader is among the elites, okay?
You think he's a common man?
He ain't even close to common.
So, ironically, you don't have to worry about a thing.
They won't touch a strand of his orange hair cuz he's actually one of them.
>> Speaker 3: I also think, Cenk, just to your point,
that they have a really good argument in their arsenal,
which is that there's no jail you can safely house Donald Trump in.
He was the President of the United States, everybody knows who he is.
So, I think that even if he is found guilty, they have that card to play,
which is, you can't send him to such and such prison.
He'll probably be murdered or whatever it is.
He 'll be able to either just have his sentence commuted or
he'll be able to serve it out in one of his properties.
Like we were talking about in the other story about people being able
to just hire their own security system to ensure they stay at home.
So I think that even if he's found guilty, he's in a particularly good position.
[LAUGH] >> Speaker 2: So
you're right to bring that up, right?
Because, number one, it's actually not a security threat.
And I could tell you how they could do it super easy.
Those white collar prisons are basically summer camp.
And I know that because among many reasons, I interviewed Tommy Chung,
who was totally unjustifiably in prison back in the Bush days.
You remember him, of course, from Ching Chang.
And it's just so
happened that his roommate in prison was the Wolf of Wall Street.
And I said, Tommy, how was prison?
He's like, it was like a vacation.
Me and Jordan played tennis every day, I got to write my book,
I got to catch up on life.
He's like, no, those white collar prisons, they didn't even have fences.
We could walk out if we wanted to, right?
So, nobody's going to kill Trump in one of those places, and
they could put Secret Service guards with him, etc.
But Ray is 100% right.
They would never send him to prison in that situation anyway.
The worst that could possibly happen is they would do house arrest at Mar-a- Lago,
which is basically the life he lives now anyway.
>> Right.
Just dropping in on somebody's wedding and
freestyling on the microphone about how he did everything perfectly well.
[LAUGH] >> Speaker 4: And if he did get charged,
then he probably pulled,
what's the dude from Enron who passed away right before he had to go to jail?
Right before he had to go to prison.
He found a way to pull that, but
now his narcissism probably wouldn't allow for that.
So he'll probably live to be 150 years old.
>> God, the man doesn't take care of himself.
>> Speaker 4: Diet, Coke and Big Macs.
>> Right.
Considering his diet, it's shocking that he's still with us today.
[LAUGH] >> Speaker 2: It is what it is, right?
So I agree with you guys.
He'll live forever, and by the end,
the best case scenario is he becomes the rapunzel of Mar-a-Lago, okay?
>> [LAUGH] >> The orange-haired rapunzel of
Mar-a-Lago.
>> Speaker 4: Just let his toupee roll out.
>> Speaker 3: Rapunzel, rapunzel, let down your thinning hair.
[LAUGH] >> Speaker 2: The problem with him is that
if they try to climb using his hair, it ain't going to work.
Those are all hair plugs, as we know from the Ivanka divorce testimony.