Alan in Joshua tech city on what's on your mind
slightly taller first I wanna qualifier this bus then I'm
I'm not advocating a pilot at all cannot buy I start allowing I have got us yet
but I'm using a
brought up to a position to are basically authorizing request our
military to
scenes back control about our government's
to get away from me you know the corrupt Robert the modern-day robber baron
here are you know call for entries that have taken it out we're
mmm at all and that's know we lifted
disillusioning for quite well but governments Israel right there in the
history of our country
the Boston Tea Party and other processed
a one appeal so the power structure
the founders a to all hang out and take action right and
thoughts you know just tell them
you know we need to be doing every so are you suggesting that the military
should take
how how to add that i die ersten is right that the military should somehow
reduce corporate power in government
well artificially low key
with how does that work East yeah I think we need to be stimulating at the
early colonial steered to request after out
out power structure to arrest a trust you
you know or not I the politicians but that a corporate powers
some help us so what you're talking about hatcher hell so we're going to
take our country back on its
as and not advocating I think that you know in some way
s what all these protests are back now I don't think so
he is asked me like what you're suggesting is violent revolution
well no I would not like they just arrest
and it happened that's not know if they if the government starts arrest in its
citizens
then and now you're talking to your doctor West a soda thereabouts
you know I just think cooper can't achieve okay let's take it was taken as
let's make this may allow actually but let's make this real
together let's make this real the bankamerica has
you know robo signing me we can identify a bunch of the actual
violations of criminal code the bank america has done what do you think the
military should do to bankamerica
chopper I think that there has to be some sort of structure to take time and
and and take back control that somehow I would you agree how would you say
haha that we should be a bit if they control the ball
and we can't do it doable because you have to be a multi-millionaire gave
to even get anybody in there don't him hello all we gonna change it if we dwell
if you're still hospitalized no Italian if you just
suggesting that you know people within the military should rise up and say okay
today we're going to decide that we're gonna go into the bank America
headquarters are going to arrest whoever the CEO is
or all the executives or something like that that's kinda like what he judge is
dead and I don't think that americans are
you know would be all that happy about that on and
and frankly though there's a lot of Citizens United States if you try to
rest and they would push back in
and they're not without some justification and you would end up with
a
with an armed revolt of my suggestion if you're saying the problem is that
our laws are not being enforced I would agree with you
and this is the point that Elizabeth Warren made when she was
interrogating members of the Obama administration's Justice Department and
and the banking regulators insane you know
why did you not prosecute these people using the criminal statutes that they
had violated why did you not
in a break up their companies why simply slap their wrists net them with fines
wanna take them at least
to court and give them a jury you know II trial before a jury their peers
and basically the answer that we got from the administration was well they're
too big in were afraid that they
they might destabilize the economy and all I kinda stuff and I say this
nonsense a bit but I only think
that the administration's gonna start in force in the laws when they get enough
public pressure
law a double date they basically done with the founding father said switches
she's government and legalized I know there's a there's a world a different
Alan
the founding fathers did not seize a government they created a government out
of nothing and we were on occupied colony
they overthrew occupiers we are no longer an occupied country
a colony we are now a sovereign nation so if you're talking about overthrowing
the government you talking about
us overthrowing us that's called civil war
no no you misunderstood what I said about
I said that the corporate powers head speed our government and legal at their
crimes which is what I was 10 percent said they were gonna be
and ideas yeah and they did it and they did it through the agency the Supreme
Court by and large and Congress has the power
and the authority to fix that but not the willingness as you correctly point
out as a corporation's on them
and again I go back to you know if you wanna jeffersonian solution
jeffersonian to Jefferson when he was for example when he was asked by Spencer
Roane
you know if if the Supreme Court is not going to have
I the power judicial review the Supreme Court is going to be the ultimate
authority about what the constitution says
who is and Jefferson said the people themselves
all power should rest with the people themselves now what he was not sane
was that the people should simply without their band all ears there their
pistols me and you know going guns a blazing when they don't like things
what he was saying is that we want it we want our political systems to
to have as much power as possible at the effort you know get as close to the
ground as possible
and and i agree with that I will I see a citizens movement in moved to amend .org
right now
to amend the constitution say corporations are not people in money is
not speech
that I think actually has a very real possibility of working you've got five
hundred communities over
around the United States you got a dozen states that have voted for this
people are people are on it they they get it
and that is a revolution every bit as much as the reagan revolution was a
revolution the FDR with a revolution was a revelation but it's not
the the violent revolution the violent overthrow the use of guns these a
military force
that that I think that your characterize your advocating
no not not so much how I don't really think it would come to violence but I do
think that the Boston Tea Party and there are probably other protester well
that
dear appeal to the power structure of our government
I me and we had no government that I that well we have a better take well I
mean it led to
it led to an organization together with the but I think it was it was a direct
appeal by the and now that liberty to buy list
but it well no actually it does but it doesn't necessarily have to be so today
there
yeah the Boston Tea Party led to violence in as much as a lead to the
American Revolution but that night I mean George Robert Walter Hughes who is
there the only guy I ever wrote a biography & autobiography of what
happened that night
now I'm he said that that was the quietest night boss and ever seen when
they when they did the Tea Party did in complete silence
on the %uh people Boston everyone knew anything could happen until the next
morning
and and a so it was not
you know it's not like you know what the black block
trash in Seattle or something I mean it was it was a very different thing
what do I think we got to use the tools that we have here now
but see now is that was in opposition to a foreign corporation that was supported
by a foreign government
and that's my part any I think I think that's what we have here not only a
great
no I do not agree with that week we are americans we
I we have this country we ate we write we own this country
I i don't disagree that corporations including foreign corporations have way
too much power and influence
so much so that you could you could make an argument although not a
not an absolute argument that they have CEO I would say they've seized
you know disproportion about a controlling our government we still do
some things right
we still do many things right actually but there's you know you've got a lot of
forces the other that that that the cato institute folk
type you know the the whole libertarian thing that says you know government
shouldn't do anything let's turn it all over the billionaires
but the billionaires decide who goes to college at the billionaires decide who
gets food stamps at the billionaires decide
you know how the public schools are run privatize everything government should
not be doing any of these things
I was ron Paul schtick you know it's like you know bought by and for the
billionaires
I get that but I I think that the simple solution to it
is to alter the Constitution because the Supreme Court
has invented not a call clot this doctrine a very corrupt Supreme Court by
the way in the 1880s
yet remembers that were being bribed outright wins and a
and as Justice Stevens was the one in particular
excuse me Steven field was the one in particular who was
who was a you know being bribed to to argue that corporations are people as he
was doing in the ninth circuit and kicking them up to himself in the
Supreme Court
on but the radio this is the Supreme Court create a doc doctrine
it's entirely possible that if the balance of power in the supreme court
changes
that bat will change that by the way is the reason why right now
you are having a filibuster battle in the united states senate
the DC yeah Circuit Court the DC Court is the court
most likely from which president's pick
future candidates for the supreme court they typically when people move on to
the supreme court they are moved out at the DC Circuit Court
and that court has a number of empty seats and I think it has four
and right now it has a majority every gonna bush appointees it has a bit
conservative majority
and that's the court that that makes the final decision
on things like labor laws he PA laws ending as to the federal government
it's the most important court in america second only the Supreme Court
and the end but Obama is nominating people for that court and if you get
even one person on that court he now has a majority the democrat so majority
and the republicans are willing to go to the mat to prevent that from happening
effect
chuck Grassley asain let's introduce legislation to reduce the number of
members
above the court so that it will be frozen with a conservative majority mean
this is how bizarre it gets
and the reason why is because they see the handwriting on the wall it is
entirely possible if Obama can get some good progress is
on the DC Circuit Court and then as
baz Vizio conservative start moving all of the
the US supreme court if justice thomas gets impeached for example because his
wife's behavior
for his own behavior for if for schoolio gets impeached or leaves or kennedy or
you wanna any of those five were to leave that court
for any reason then the Supreme Court would change in
and we actually might be able to get our country back in part
I still think though that the and Al banking for the call but I still think
that the best solution a straightforward solution
is to is to simply pass a constitutional amendments the spring court has no say
in the matter
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but it makes me crazy when people keep invoking the American Revolution as a
model for now
we did not have our own government at that time we overthrew and occupying
one force