MORE AS WE GET IT.
ELIZABETH: ALWAYS GREAT
REPORTING FROM LAURA ENGLE.
THANK YOU, LAURA.
WE HAVE FORMER PROSECUTOR GUY
LEWIS AND DOJ OFFICIAL, FANCY
HAKES LOOK, 10 OF TRUMP’S PICKS
WON IN GOP PRIMARIES LAST NIGHT.
HE HAS 95% SUCCESS RATE.
156 HAVE WON SINCE 2020.
FANCY, I WANT TO GET TO YOU,
HOUSE GOP LED BY JAMES COMER
TELLING THE NATIONAL ARCHIVE YOU
HAVE TO PRESERVE RECORDS USED IN
THE RAID.
WHAT IS THE FALLOUT ON THIS?
PRESSURE IS GROWING ON THE
WHITE HOUSE AND FBI WHY A
RECORDS VIOLATION ACT JUSTIFY A
SMALL BATTALION OF 40 FBI
AGENTS, SOME WITH MACHINE GUNS,
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ALL THIS?
>> THAT IS A GREAT WAY TO PUT IT
SMALL BATTALION OF FBI, CADRE
WITH MACHINE GUNS, LONG GUNS,
BACKPACKS APPARENTLY DESCENDING
ON THE PRESIDENT’S RESIDENCE
WHAT EVERYONE IS AGREES IS
UNPRECEDENTED.
EVEN THOUGH IT IS UNPRECEDENTED
WE HEARD NOTHING FROM FBI AND
DOJ I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY
THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE
FINE AND WEREN’T PREPARED WITH A
WHOLE LOT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION
IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE RAID
ENDED.
WE DESERVE TO KNOW.
THIS WAS A FORMER PRESIDENT.
HE WAS ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE.
HE GOT 70 SOME MILLION VOTES IN
THE SECOND RE-ELECTION BID AND
THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW
WHAT IT IS EXACTLY THAT THE FBI,
WHO WAS AFTER HIM AND DECEIVING
THE PUBLIC AND THE FISA COURT
OVER THE COURSE OF HIS TERM,
WHAT THEY SAY THEY HAVE NOW,
THAT MERITED THIS KIND OF
ACTION.
ELIZABETH: WHAT FRANCE SEEN IS
SAYING, GUY, COINCIDENTALLY AT
SAME TIME FBI SEIZED THE PHONE
OF TRUMP ALLY REPRESENTATIVE
SCOTT PERRY.
GUY, FROM WHERE YOU SIT, IS THIS
ABOUT CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS?
OR ABOUT THE DOJ CAPITOL RIOTS
PROBE?
THERE IS BASIS FOR FBI TO GET
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS BUT THE
QUESTION IS ABOUT THESE TACTICS.
IS THIS ABOUT THE CAPITOL RIOTS
PROBE OR CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS,
WHAT IS IT?
>> IT’S POLITICS.
IT IS NOTHING BUT DIRTY
POLITICS.
I MEAN YOU KNOW, NIXON COULD
LEARN A FEW THINGS FROM THESE
NICE.
THE DOJ, THE RULES INSIDE IT --
ELIZABETH: THE POINT IS, SORRY,
GUY, HANG ON.
WHY DO THEY WANT THE
INFORMATION?
THEY HAVE A SWEEPING GET MORE
INFORMATION TO GO AFTER TRUMP
FOR THE CAPITOL RIOTS, PROBE?
THAT IS THE QUESTION.
>> THEY SPENT, I DON’T THINK THE
ANSWER IS THEY’RE GOING AFTER
TRUMP FOR THE CAPITOL RIOTS
PROBE.
I DON’T THINK THERE IS A CRIME
TRUMP NECESSARILY COMMITTED
THERE.
I DO THINK THAT HE’S AN OPPONENT
OF SITTING PRESIDENT WHO
APPOINTED THE SITTING ATTORNEY
GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES AND
I THINK THE CONFLICT THERE IS SO
APPARENT.
WHY WOULD THEY GO AFTER HIM?
THEY SPENT TWO YEARS TRYING TO
DISQUALIFY HIM IN THE RUSSIA
PROBE.
THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND
EFFORT TO MAKE TRUMP A
NONENTITY.
ELIZABETH: THEY HAVE GOT THIS
TOO.
SENATE JUDICIARY RANKING MEMBER
CHUCK GRASSLEY SPOKE TO FBI
DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER WRAY,
FRANCE SEEN, THE FBI CREDIBILITY
IS AGAIN ON THE LINE.
PRIOR HANDLING OF PRIOR
POLITICAL INVESTIGATIONS.
HE IS WARNING ABOUT POLITICAL
BIAS AGAIN AND MISCONDUCT.
THE POINT HERE HE IS SAYING THIS
IS OVERSHADOWING THE
HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN WHO
ARE AGENTS IN THE BUREAU WHO
HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH
POLITICS.
THEY JUST WANT TO CATCH THE BAD
GUYS.
>> LIZ, I HOPE THAT IS TRUE.
I HOPE THERE ARE.
I KNOW THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF
FBI AGENTS, MEN AND WOMEN WHO DO
WORK HARD.
YOU HAD 30 AGENTS ON THAT RAID.
WHERE ARE THE WHISTLE-BLOWERS,
IF THIS IS POLITICAL AS IT WAS
OVER THE COURSE OF TRUMP’S
PRESIDENCY, WHERE ARE THE FBI
WHISTLE-BLOWERS COMING OUT
SAYING THESE THINGS VIOLATE
POLICY, THEY VIOLATE NORMS, THEY
MAYBE EVEN VIOLATE LAWS?
I DON’T SEE THEM COMING --
ELIZABETH: WE GOT
WHISTLE-BLOWERS TALKING TO
SENATOR CHUCK GRASSLEY ABOUT THE
HUNTER BIDEN PROBE BEING BLOCKED
IN D.C. HEADQUARTERS BECAUSE
THEY’RE SAYING IT IS
DISINFORMATION.
WHO KNOWS THEY MAY STEP FORWARD
IF THERE IS SELECT COMMITTEE AS
THE HOUSE GOP HOPES TO GET BACK
IN CONTROL?
>> I HOPE SO, LIZ.
THEY ARE COMING FORWARD ABOUT
HUNTER BIDEN BUT WHERE WERE THEY
WHEN THE FISA APPLICATION WAS
PUT IN AGAINST CARTER PAGE?
WHAT NO ONE HAS EVER TALKED
ABOUT IS THAT FISA APPLICATION
AND WARRANT GAVE THEM PERMISSION
TO SPY ON THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN,
ALL THE WAY IN, TWO OR THREE
PEOPLE INTO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
WHAT DID THEY EVER FIND?
WE NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE FISA
TAKE.
WE NEVER HEARD A SINGLE AGENT
STEP FORWARD HOW ANDY McCABE
LIED OR PETER STRZOK LIED.
I WORRY ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION
THAT I LOVED AND RESPECTED FOR
MY ENTIRE CAREER.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO
IT.
SOMEONE HAS TO PUT A STOP TO THE
POLITICIZATION OF THIS BUREAU.
ELIZABETH: WE YOU CAN TALKED TO
A LOT OF FBI OFFICIALS IN
NEW YORK FIELD OFFICE IN
NEW YORK STATE, IN D.C.
GUY, THEY DO NOT LIKE THE
POLITICIZATION AS THEY SEE IT.
THEY JUST WANT TO CATCH BAD
GUYS, THAT’S IT.
THERE IS ALSO THIS STORY, A
FEDERAL JUDGE IN FLORIDA, JUDGE
BRUCE REINHARDT WHO SIGNED THE
SEARCH WARRANT, PEOPLE ARE
DIGGING UP FACEBOOK POSTS,
SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS IN 2017
INDICATING BIAS AGAINST FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THERE IS THAT.
WE HAVE TRUMP PLEADING THE FIFTH
IN THE NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL
INVESTIGATION WHETHER TRUMP
ORGANIZATION AND FORMER
PRESIDENT IMPROPERLY INFLATED
THE VALUE OF ASSETS.
THERE IS A LOT GOING ON HERE,
GUY.
WHERE IS ALL OF THIS HEADING?
>> SO YOU KNOW ANY COMPETENT
LAWYER, LIZ, WOULD HAVE TOLD HIM
TO PLEAD THE FIFTH GIVEN THE
WITCH-HUNT GOING ON IN NEW YORK
BUT, JUST LIKE FANCY, WHAT
FOLLOWS ME THE FBI IS NOT
FOLLOWING THEIR OWN RULES.
THERE IS ONLY ONE MORE INTRUSIVE
METHOD OF INVESTIGATION, THAT’S
A WIRETAP.
OTHERWISE SEARCH WARRANT ITSELF,
THEY HAD SO MANY OTHER DIFFERENT
OPTIONS, GETTING A JUDGE
INVOLVED, A SUBPOENA, A CIVIL
MATTER, DOCUMENT REQUESTIONS,
FRANKLY IF I WAS IN FRONT OF
LEGAL TEAM, BRYCE REINHARDT, I
KNOW WHO IS MAGISTRATE JUDGE I
WOULD ASK IT ALL BE UNSEALED
TOMORROW.
LET EVERYBODY SEE IT.
IF THERE IS CONFIDENTIAL
INFORMANT, LET THEM SEE IT.
IF THERE IS PROBABLE CAUSE, LET
THEM SEE IT.
ELIZABETH: THERE IS DEBATE OVER
THAT, WHETHER OR NOT THE TRUMP
SIDE OF IT IS SAYING THEY WERE
SHOWN A SEARCH WARRANT FROM
10 FEET AWAY, THEN TRUMP’S
LAWYER WAS ORDERED TO STAND AT
THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY DURING
THIS RAID.
WE HAVE NEW DETAILS WHAT THEY
TOOK AWAY.
REPORTS MAYBE, A LETTER FROM
OBAMA OR KIM JONG-UN?
HERE IS THE TIMELINE OF LEGAL
BATTLE OVER THE RECORDS.
BACK IN JANUARY WHEN THEY RAIDED
MAR-A-LAGO, LET ME BACK UP, THEY
DIDN’T RAID MAR-A-LAGO IN
JANUARY.
THEY TOOK ITEMS OUT OF
MAR-A-LAGO, LIKE A COCKTAIL
NAPKIN, A PHONE LIST, MEMOS,
TALKING POINTS, SCHEDULES,
BIRTHDAY DINNER MENU, YOU KNOW
WHAT I MEAN?
WHERE DO YOU SEE THIS HEADED?
>> I HAVE NO IDEA, LIZ.
GUY IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
EVERYONE SHOULD BE CONCERNED.
DOES IT REALLY TAKE 30 ARMED FBI
AGENTS TO RECOVER A COCKTAIL
NAPKIN AND DINNER MEN USE?
THIS IS SHOCKING THAT THE
POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT ONCE
AGAIN IS GOING AFTER SOMEONE WHO
IS PROBABLY GOING TO RUN FOR
PRESIDENT, TRYING TO BRING HIM
DOWN, TRYING TO INTIMIDATE HIM
AND HIS SUPPORTERS SO THEY WILL
NOT RUN FOR OFFICE, SO THEY WILL
NOT SUPPORT HIM IN HIS RUN FOR
OFFICE.
GUY IS RIGHT.
THIS WARRANT HAS TO COME OUT.
THE AFTER DAVE HAVE IT HAS TO
COME IT.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS
UNDER THIS EX-TOWARD CASE.
ELIZABETH: CHRIS CHRISTIE SAYS
IF UNDERPINNINGS ARE THERE.
LINDSEY GRAHAM DEMAND MORE
INFORMATION.
THAT AMERICANS DESERVE IMMEDIATE
INVESTIGATION.
WATCH TRUMP’S ATTORNEY WITH
JESSE WATTERS LAST NIGHT.
>> I CAN TELL YOU HE WAS NOT
ONLY WORKING WITH THEM.
HE WAS COOPERATING THERE WAS
NOTHING TO HIDE.
HE WAS WORKING IN TANDEM,
ALLOWED THEM TO MAR-A-LAGO.
THE POINT IS WHEN HE WENT IN
WHEN HE WASN’T EVEN THERE AND
TOLD HIS ATTORNEYS TO LEAVE.
THEY COULDN’T EVEN BE ON
PREMISE.
THAT DOESN’T SOUND GOOD TO ME.
>> THERE IS LETTER FROM
KIM JONG-UN, LETTER FROM
PRESIDENT OBAMA, IS THAT WHAT IS
THEIR AFTER,.
>> THIS IS NARA SEARCH.
NATIONAL ARCHIVES.
WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JIM
JIMMY HOFFA DID HE TAKE
DOCUMENTS DISCUSSING IF ALIENS
EXISTED.
I’M CONCERNED THEY MAY HAVE
PLANTED SOMETHING.
AT THIS POINT WHO KNOWS.
I DON’T TRUST THE GOVERNMENT.
ELIZABETH: THERE IS NO
INDICATION OF THAT YET.
GUY, YOUR FINAL WORD BECAUSE
THIS IS, THEY’RE PUTTING THIS,
THEY’RE TIGHTENING THE, YOU
KNOW, TIGHTENING WHAT IS GOING
ON AROUND TRUMP.
THEY’RE REALLY GOING AFTER HIM
RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT’S THE FALLOUT?
WHERE DO YOU SEE, AGAIN, I HAVE
TO ASK YOU AGAIN, THIS
INDICATION WE’RE SEEING MORE
SERIOUS THAN JUST A RECORDS
RAID.
THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE GOING
ON.
>> IF THAT’S THE CASE THEN
LET’S, TELL US WHO INITIATED THE
WARRANT?
WHO FIRST, WHOSE IDEA WAS THIS?
WHO AUTHORIZED IT?
WHO WROTE IT UP?
WHO SUPERVISED IT?
WAS THE AG INFORMED?
WAS CHRIS WRAY INVOLVED?
AND DID THE PRESIDENT KNOW ABOUT
IT.