WILL SENATOR >>> THE NEW YORK DEMOCRATIC
PRIMARY IS SLATED TO TAKE PLACE
ON APRIL 28th.
AND WE HAVE NEW NUMBERS OUT JUST
NOW.
NOW. BERNIE SANDERS IS OUT IN FRONT
WITH 25%.
WITH 25%. MICHAEL BLOOMBERG FOLLOWS FOUR
POINTS BEHIND WITH 21%.
BOTH ARE STATISTICALLY TIED
WITHIN THE POLL’S 6.6 MARGIN OF
ERROR.
ERROR. IN THIRD IS JOE BIDEN WITH 13,
FOLLOWED BY ELIZABETH WARREN
WITH 11, PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY
KLOBUCHAR ROUND OUT THE TOP SIX,
TIED AT 9% APIECE.
THIS POLL WAS TAKEN BEFORE LAST
WEEKEND’S NEVADA CAUCUS.
KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND OF NEW YORK
JOINS US NOW.
WE’LL GET HER TAKE ON THE 2020
RACE IN A MOMENT, BUT FIRST,
SHE’S ANNOUNCED A NEW BILL AIMED
AT PROTECTING CONSUMERS’ DATA
FROM BIG TECH COMPANIES.
>> SO BOY, I TELL YOU WHAT.
NOT A SECOND TOO SOON, SENATOR.
YOU KNOW, WE ALL WORRY ABOUT BIG
BROTHER COMING.
BROTHER COMING. WELL, BIG BROTHER HAS ALREADY
DM, BUT IT’S IN THE FORM OF
THESE HUGE TECH COMPANIES WHO
ARE LIKE TRUSTS OF THE LATE 19th
AND EARLY 20th CENTURY.
TALK ABOUT, YOU SAY THAT YOU
WANT TO CREATE A DATA PROTECTION
AGENCY.
AGENCY. WHAT WOULD THAT DATA PROTECTION
AGENCY SPECIFICALLY DO FOR
CONSUMERS?
CONSUMERS? >> WELL, IT WOULD PUT CONSUMERS
FIRST.
FIRST. AND RIGHT NOW, OUR DATA IS BEING
SOLD, SOMETIMES JUST TO THE
HIGHEST BIDDER.
HIGHEST BIDDER. I’M A MOM OF TWO BOYS.
EVERY TIME THEY DOWNLOAD AN APP,
WHAT ARE THEY AGREEING TO
WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE?
ARE THEY GIVING AWAY THEIR
LOCATION DATA, ARE THEY GIVING
AWAY THEIR SEARCH HISTORIES, ARE
THEY GIVING AWAY THEIR PERSONAL
DATA?
DATA? IN OUR CLASSROOMS, WE HAVE TECH.
THEY’RE LIVE STREAMING VIDEO,
SOUND.
SOUND. THAT DATA IS BEING SOLD WITHOUT
THE KNOWLEDGE OF PARENTS.
SO THERE’S SO MUCH RISK WE HAVE.
AND THE TRUTH IS, WE NEED AN
AGENCY THAT’S DEDICATED SOLELY
TO MAKING SURE WE’RE PROTECTED,
TO PROMULGATING REGULATIONS, TO
HAVING OVERSIGHT AND
ACCOUNTABILITY, TO MAKING SURE
WE DON’T HAVE NEW ALGORITHMS
BEING DERIVED THAT ARE RED
LINING IN TERMS OF WHETHER YOU
GET A MORTGAGE, WHETHER THEY
ARE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE A
FITNESS APP, MIKA.
YOU AND I WORK OUT ALL THE TIME.
IMAGINE THAT DATA BEING SOLD TO
YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY.
IF YOU’RE JUST NOT WORKING OUT
LATELY, MAYBE YOU GET WORSE
RATES.
RATES. THAT’S HOW DATA IS BEING CHOPPED
UP AND SENT TO FOR-PROFIT
ENTITIES THAT WE DON’T KNOW IF
THEY HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS AT
HEART.
HEART. THE FTC HAS DROPPED THE BALL.
THEY’RE NOT ENFORCING EXISTING
REGULATIONS.
REGULATIONS. THEY’RE NOT HOLDING EQUIFAX
ACCOUNTABLE, GOOGLE AND FACEBOOK
ACCOUNTABLE.
ACCOUNTABLE. THE TRUTH IS WE NEED EXPERTS WHO
CAN PROTECT OUR DATA FIRST.
>> RIGHT, SO SENATOR, FIRST OF
ALL, LET ME ANSWER YOUR QUESTION
FOR YOU.
FOR YOU. DO WE KNOW IF THEY HAVE OUR BEST
INTERESTS?
INTERESTS? FIRST, NO, THEY DON’T.
THEY HAVE THEIR BEST INTERESTS
FIRST.
FIRST. THEY HAVE THE BOTTOM LINE FIRST,
THEN YOU ASKED A COUPLE
QUESTIONS UP TOP ABOUT YOUR
BOYS.
BOYS. ARE THEY BY GETTING AN APP AND
REVEALING THEIR LOCATION,
REVEALING THEIR SEARCH.
YES, THE ANSWER TO ALL THOSE ARE
YES.
YES. I KNOW THOSE ARE RHETORICAL
QUESTIONS, BUT THE AMOUNT OF
POWER THESE COMPANIES HAVE OVER
PEOPLE THAT GO ON SMARTPHONES IS
ABSOLUTELY FRIGHTENING.
ABSOLUTELY FRIGHTENING. AND I’M NOT OVERSTATING THIS.
I READ AN OP-ED SEVERAL MONTHS
AGO IN THE FINANCIAL TIMES THAT
SAID COMMUNIST STATES IN THE OLD
SOVIET UNION, IN THE WARSAW
PACT, WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE
THIS MUCH SPY INFORMATION ON
THEIR SUBJECTS.
THEIR SUBJECTS. WELL NOW, DATA COMPANIES HAVE
THAT MUCH POWER AND AUTHORITY
OVER US.
OVER US. >> AND IT CAN AFFECT ALL OF OUR
FUTURES.
FUTURES. IT MIGHT DETERMINE WHETHER YOU
GET A JOB, WHETHER YOU GET A
MORTGAGE, WHETHER YOU GET LIFE
INSURANCE, WHETHER YOU GET
HEALTH INSURANCE.
HEALTH INSURANCE. AND WHAT WE’RE GIVING AWAY IS
WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE AND
WITHOUT OUR CONSENT.
WE READ ALL ABOUT THE SCRAPING
OF ALL THE DATA AVAILABILITY FOR
OUR FACES TO BE ABLE TO FIND US,
TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY US.
IMAGINE THAT GETTING INTO THE
WRONG HANDS.
WRONG HANDS. IT CREATES ENORMOUS SECURITY
RISKS FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF
US AND PEOPLE ARE MAKING GREAT
DEALS OF MONEY OFF OUR DATA WE
HAVE NEVER GIVEN THEM PERMISSION
TO USE.
TO USE. >> THERE’S AN OLD SAYING, IF
YOU’RE NOT PAYING FOR A PRODUCT,
YOU ARE THE PRODUCT.
WELL, WE ARE THE PRODUCT.
LET ME ASK.
WHY HASN’T CONGRESS, WHY HASN’T
THE WHITE HOUSE, WHY HAVEN’T OUR
LEADERS IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
STOOD UP TO THESE DATA AND TECH
COMPANIES WHO ARE DOING GREAT
THINGS, WHO HAVE CREATED A NEW
WORLD FOR NOT ONLY AMERICAN
CONSUMERS BUT CONSUMERS ACROSS
THE WORLD, BUT THEY HAVE CARTE
BLANCHE.
BLANCHE. THEY HAVE A BLANK CHECK.
WHY?
WHY? ARE YOU ONE OF THE FIRST REALLY
TO STAND UP AND DO THIS?
>> WELL, THAT’S WHY I’M STANDING
UP AND DOING THIS, BECAUSE WE
NEED A BIPARTISAN ACTION TO HOLD
THESE BIG DATA COMPANIES
ACCOUNTABLE.
ACCOUNTABLE. AND WE NEED REFORM.
AND YOU KNOW, IT’S NOT
DISSIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED IN
TURN OF CENTURY WHEN WE HAD BIG
OIL.
OIL. IT’S THE NEW BIG OIL.
IT TOOK US TO THE ’70s TO CREATE
THE EPA TO CREATE ACCOUNTABILITY
OVER OUR AIR AND OUR WATER AND
THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF OUR
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. IT’S GOING TO TAKE ENORMOUS
EFFORTS, JOE, TO ACTUALLY DO
THIS WORK AND TO GET IT STARTED.
BUT I THINK IF WE CAN SIMPLIFY
IT, LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE
RISKS ARE FOR THEIR OWN FUTURE,
FOR THEIR OWN ABILITY TO CONTROL
THEIR BASIC PERSONAL DATA, I
THINK WE’LL GET THE BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT WE NEED TO PUT THIS DATA
PROTECTION AGENCY IN PLACE.
>> I WANT TO SHIFT TO 2020 IF
YOU DON’T MIND.
IT SEEMS AS IF THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY IS IN EXTRAORDINARY
CRISIS.
CRISIS. THEY’RE ANXIETY RIDDEN, AT LEAST
CERTAIN PARTS OF THE PARTY,
ABOUT THE ASCENDANCE OF BERNIE
SANDERS.
SANDERS. WHERE IS YOUR TAKE ABOUT WHERE
THE PARTY IS, WHERE SHOULD SOME
OF THE CANDIDATES WHO ARE NOT
POLLING WELL IN THE PRIMARIES
AND CAUCUSES DROP OUT, AND WHERE
DO YOU STAND?
WHEN WILL YOU ACTUALLY MAKE YOUR
ENDORSEMENT
ENDORSEMENT ENDORSEMENT?
ENDORSEMENT? >> I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT FOR
OUR PARTY TO LISTEN TO THE
VOTERS.
VOTERS. VOTERS ARE LOOKING FOR THE
CANDIDATES THAT ARE TALKING
ABOUT THE THINGS THEY CARE
ABOUT.
ABOUT. HEALTH CARE, HOW CAN I GET
BETTER ACCESS TO HIGHER QUALITY
HEALTH CARE I CAN AFFORD,
EDUCATION.
EDUCATION. OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE
CRUMBLING.
CRUMBLING. MY COLLEGE-AGE KID CAN’T AFFORD
COLLEGE.
COLLEGE. HOW DO WE GET BETTER JOB
TRAINING.
TRAINING. AND JOBS, HOW DO WE ALLOW MORE
PEOPLE TO BUILD THEIR WAY TO THE
MIDDLE CLASS.
MIDDLE CLASS. THAT’S ALL THIS ELECTION IS
ABOUT.
ABOUT. WHEN YOU SEE DIFFERENT
CANDIDATES RISING SUCH AS BERNIE
SANDERS IT’S PROBABLY BECAUSE
HE’S TALKING MOST ABOUT HEALTH
CARE, EDUCATION, JOBS, OFFERING
SOLUTIONS THEY FIND APPEALING,
THAT SPEAK TO THEM AND THEIR
FAMILIES AND THEIR NEEDS.
THAT’S WHAT ELECTIONS ARE ALL
ABOUT.
ABOUT. >> ALL RIGHT, SENATOR KIRSTEN
GILLIBRAND, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR COMING BACK ON THE SHOW.
>> GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
GOOD LUCK WITH THE LEGISLATION.
BOY, IT’S NEEDED.
>> ALL RIGHT, STILL AHEAD, MUCH
MORE ON THE RACE FOR PRESIDENT
AHEAD OF TOMORROW’S DEBATE IN
SOUTH CAROLINA.
SOUTH CAROLINA. AND SATURDAY’S PRIMARY.
WE’RE ALSO WATCHING THE
FINANCIAL MARKET.
FINANCIAL MARKET. STOCKS ACROSS THE GLOBE ARE
TANKING AS CASES OF THE
CORONAVIRUS SURGE OUTSIDE OF
CHINA.
CHINA. AT ONE POINT, DOW FUTURES WERE