How did you meet him to begin with?
He was living with a friend of mine.
That's how I met him, though, was through Gabe.
And we were just, kind of, acquaintances.
I would go hang out over at Gabe's house
and he would be there and we didn't really talk much
and then when we did start talking,
it wasn't like, ya know, anything like,
we weren't like in romantic relationships, anything.
I mean, we were just friends.
Oh, you didn't ever date him?
I never dated him.
I know it's on the media that I was his ex-girlfriend,
but we never dated.
Well, I didn't know.
Yeah, I actually, the whole time I knew him,
I had a boyfriend for the most part
'cause he did ask me a lot, he had a girlfriend,
he asked me all the time if I would be with him
and, you know, I was like, "No, I want to be
"with my boyfriend."
John got ahold of him on Facebook
and told him that we had been sleeping together
and we're in love with each other
and so, there was just always a lot of drama there.
We have a few mutual friends, not a lot,
but one of my really good friends that I talk to a lot,
even up until this all happened,
John was still talking to, he was telling him stuff
like we were in love, we were doing really good
in our relationship, we had a baby on the way.
He was just really delusional, like really crazy.
And ever since then, I stopped talking to him
after that and this was like eight months ago
and it just never ended.
Were you ever with him alone before?
Like, you go over there and your friend wasn't home
or Gabe wasn't home and he was there?
Yeah, I've been.
Did he act strange, did you notice?
He would always just try and like,
try to like ask me, like try to pay me
to like do stuff with him.
I don't know, just stuff like,
pretty much try to beg me to do anything with him.
You said he would try to pay you?
Yeah, like he would offer to pay me
to like give him a kiss or, you know, anything.
Just like anything, like he was like devoted to like
making me be with him, honestly, and it just got creepy.
At first, I didn't--
Was he serious?
He was serious, yeah.
The first thing that he ever had started with
was that he offered me $500 and,
I was waiting for Gabe to get home, so,
and I just was like creeped out by him
and I told him that, I was like,
"Look, I have a boyfriend, you know,
"like you need to stop or I'm not gonna speak to you"
and it was like, he was like obsessive
from the moment I met him.
So he did, he did what?
He offered you $500 to do what?
To perform a sex act?
Yeah.
And when you said no, how did he respond?
He just like put his head down
and went into his room like.
It was never ever, ever aggressive.
Anything he did was never aggressive.
It was a lot of threats like,
"Oh, if you don't, ya know, be my girlfriend,
"I'm gonna call your dad and tell him
"that," you know, just something crazy.
Like, he called my dad and told him
that I was pregnant with his child.
He contacted my 80 year old grandmother
and told her that I was pregnant with his child.
Was there a point in there where you were
scared of him?
Honestly, no.
He would say threatening things,
but I blocked his number,
I blocked, I made my Facebook private,
I made everything, and when he would get through to me,
he would go online and make a number,
so he could text me, like textnow.com or whatever.
Just saying stuff like, "I forgive you
"for everything you've done, for having a boyfrined,
"I forgive you, I love you, I want to be with you."
So, you didn't get a restraining order?
I never did, no.
Did you ever talk to the police?
I didn't.
A lot of times it was just texts
or he would call my family trying to get my family
to get me to talk to him.
Why did you not get a restraining order?
I didn't get the restraining order
because I felt like when I looked it up,
it said it had to be kind of domestic
and it kind of seemed like a lot you had to go through
for court.
I really wish I would have, but I feel like
whether I did or didn't, what happened
still would have happened.
When was the first time he mentioned Natalie Holloway
to you?
It was probably like two months after
or three months after I met him
that I heard about the Holloway case
and I was just kind of creeped out by him
after that and wanted to stay away from him.
Well, how did he know this van der Sloot,
how did he know him?
He used to live in Aruba.
His aunt owns a home there.
He used to rent her real estate company.
I was always infatuated with the Holloway case.
I mean, ya know, I said, "Oh, I'm gonna,
"that van der Sloot guy seems like a cool dude."
"I'd love to be his friend," ya know.
I had seen interviews with him,
genuinely thought he'd be cool.
I didn't care if he killed a girl or raped a girl
or what he did, that wasn't me.
All I cared about is I thought he'd be a cool ass friend
and he, and he was.
So, I told my friends, "When I move down there,
"I'ma meet him and I'ma become his best friend."
He actually, according to him,
ran into him in the gas station,
or like a convenience store and, ya know,
was like, ya know, "Oh, I'm really intrigued
"by what you've done, I want to be your friend."
I shook his hand and I explained,
"I just moved here from Virginia,
"I don't have any friends."
He said, "Ya know, maybe we can have a drink,
"give me your number, I'll call you later"
and sure enough, he did.
And we spent everyday together
from February til May.
That's how they became friends, according to him.