YOU SO MUCH AS ALWAYS.
>> THANKS, JESSE.
>> Jesse: VLADIMIR PUTIN IS VERY
MUCH AWARE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF
A COUP, BLOODLESS OR BLOODY
AGAINST HIM.
HE IS ALLEGEDLY OBSESSED BY THE
OVERTHROW OF LIBYAN DICTATOR
MUAMMAR KADAFI AND DESPERATELY
WANTS TO AVOID THAT FATE.
JOINING ME NOW IS BUCK SEXTON,
FORMER CIA ANALYST AND CO-HOST
OF THE CLAY TRAVIS AND BUCK
SEXTON SHOW.
ALONG WITH RETIRED U.S. MARINE
JOHNNY JOEY JONES.
SO, BUCK, I MEAN, HE COULD GET A
BULLET IN HIS HEAD.
HE COULD GET POISONED.
HE LOVES POISON OVER THERE YOU
KNOW THAT.
THEY COULD MAYBE SEND HIM TO SEE
YOU BEER I CAN’T.
WHAT KIND OF PREPARATIONS DO YOU
THINK PUTIN MADE TO PREVENT
THAT?
>> THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE ON
EARTH WHO SPEND MORE TIME
THINKING ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL
SECURITY THAN VLADIMIR PUTIN.
THIS WOULD BE TOUGH.
AND I KNOW PEOPLE RIGHT NOW MAY
BE THINKING A PALACE COUP,
WOULDN’T THAT BE FANTASTIC THAT
COULD POSSIBLY END THIS WHOLE
THING.
BUT THAT, I THINK, IS A DISTANT
POSSIBILITY AT BEST RIGHT NOW.
THERE IS SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH OF
THE PEOPLE AROUND PUTIN WHO
WOULD HAVE SUFFERED PAIN, NOR
HAVE THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE SEEN
ENOUGH IN TERMS OF CASUALTIES TO
BE WILLING TO DEAL WITH THE
INCREDIBLE FORCE OF THE FSB, THE
RUSSIAN INTERNAL SECURITY
SERVICE.
THEY ARE VERY GOOD THE
REPRESSION AND VERY GOOD AT
KEEPING THE BIG GUY IN CHARGE.
FOR ANYBODY AROUND HIM, IT IS
TRUE IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACADEMIC
LITERATURE, AUTHORITARIANS
USUALLY DO FALL BY PEOPLE AROUND
THEM IN THEIR ORBIT.
PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE TRUSTED.
IF YOU COME AT THE KING YOU
ABOUT BEST NOT MISS.
IF YOU COME AT PUTIN YOUR WHOLE
FAMILY IS IN JEOPARDY.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE MIGHT SEE
DOWN THE LINE, JESSE, IT WOULD
BE FAR TOO LUCKY FOR HIM TO GET
PUSHED ASIDE RIGHT NOW.
>> Jesse: I AGREE.
WAY TOO EARLY.
LET’S GAME PLAN THIS OUT, JONES,
IF THEY START CHEWING UP RUSSIAN
SOLDIERS IN A VICIOUS WESTERN FUNDED INBE SURGENCY.
FUNDED INBE SURGENCY.
AND THE RUBLE IS GARBAGE AND
THERE IS LINES TO LEAVE THE
COUNTRY AND THERE IS CHAOS IN
THE STREET OLIGARCHS.
THEY CAN’T RUB TWO SIGNALS
TOGETHER.
WHEN DOES THE SECURITY STATE IN
RUSSIA MAKE A MOVE ON VLAD?
, YOU KNOW, BUCK IS GOING TO
KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS THAN
ME.
I WILL TELL YOU, IT’S NOT HARD
TO SEE THAT PUTIN’S POWER COMES
FROM THE POWER HE CONTINUES TO
SECURE BY THOSE AROUND HIM.
THE OLIGARCHS AREN’T SUPPRESSED
FOR INFORMATION.
THEY CAN SPEND AS MUCH TIME HERE
AS THEY DO IN RUSSIA.
THEIR WEALTH ALLOWS THEM TO
TRAVEL THE WORLD.
THEY UNDERSTAND MORE -- PROBABLY
MORE CLEARLY THAN MOST OF US DO,
WHO PUTIN IS AND THE POSITIVE
AND NEGATIVE EFFECT HE HAS ON
HIS COUNTRY.
THAT’S THE IRONY IN THIS THE
PEOPLE VAST NUMBERS DON’T HAVE
THE RESOURCES AND ARE DOWN
TRODDEN THE MOST BY A DICTATOR
LIKE THIS HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT
OF INFORMATION.
BUT WHEN WE GO AFTER THE
OLIGARCHS, THAT’S WHEN THE TIDE
MAY GET TO CHANGE.
I GUESS MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS,
WE CAN’T LOOK AT THIS AS A U.S.
STRATEGY, RIGHT?
WE CAN’T SAY WELL, IS HE NOT
GOING TO SEND NUKES BUT BEFORE
HE DOES THEY ARE GOING TO KILL
THEMSELVES.
THAT’S NOT A U.S. STRATEGY.
THAT’S NOT HOW WE DEFEND
OURSELVES.
AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE HAVING
TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WHICH
SEEMS LIKE THERE IS NOT A LOT OF
OTHER PLAYS AMONG OUR
GOVERNMENT.
THAT’S WHAT IS CONCERNING.
THAT’S WHAT BOTHERS ME.
THE FACT THAT WE ARE AT PRIME
TIME TELEVISION AND WE ARE
LOOKING AT WELL MAYBE THEY WILL
KILL PUTIN THEMSELVES OR GET RID
OF THEM THEMSELVES AS A STRATEGY
ISN’T THAT KIND OF THE PROBLEM,
JESSE?
DOESN’T THAT KIND OF TELL YOU
WHERE WE ARE WITH IT.
>> Jesse: UNTIL HE GOES AFTER A
NATO ALLY YOU JUST GOT TO LET
HIM SINK IN UKRAINE AND WRECK
THEIR BANKING SYSTEM FROM
ABROAD.
THAT HE WAS THE ONLY PLAY.
SO, BUCK, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE
THE PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW, COME
INTO THE CHAMBER.
HE IS GOING TO BE SHAKING HANDS
AND EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE
MUGGING FOR THE CAMERA AND GET
THAT SHOT OF THEM CLOSE TO HIM.
THEY CAN PUSH OUT THEIR LITTLE
PAMPHLET FOR RE-ELECTION.
ALTHOUGH I DON’T SEE WHY THAT
WOULD EVEN HELP.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT
HAS TO SAY TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE TONIGHT ABOUT UKRAINE
THAT MAKES SENSE TO THEM
BECAUSE, YES, YOU KNOW, WE WANT
RUSSIA TO DIE ON THIS HILL.
WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT IT
A VICTORY FOR THE UKRAINIAN
PEOPLE.
BUT, AT WHAT EXPENSE?
YOU KNOW, WE ARE GETTING CRUSHED
BY HIGH GAS PRICES AND HIGH OIL
PRICES HERE WE ARE PROBABLY
GOING TO SEE A SUPPLY CHAIN
PROBLEM WHEN THEY CAN’T FEED
EUROPE AND THE MIDDLE EAST.
HOW DOES HE SELL WHAT HE IS
DOING IN UKRAINE AS A SUCCESS?
>> JESSE, I THINK HE IS GOING TO
HAVE A LOT OF TROUBLE SELLING
ANYTHING THAT HE HAS DONE IN THE
FIRST YEAR OR SO OF THE
ADMINISTRATION AS A SUCCESS, THE
BORDER, CRIME, THE ECONOMY,
INFLATION, YOU NAME IT ON
UKRAINE SPECIFICALLY HE SAID
PEOPLE CAN GO BACK AND SEE THE
VIDEO IN 2019.
PUFT DOESN’T WANT ME TO BE
PRESIDENT.
PUTIN IS SCARED OF ME.
HE WILL NEVER DO ANYTHING BAD.
THESE ARE THE THING THAT COME
BACK TO HAUNT POLITICIANS
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE TALKING
ABOUT MATTERS OF WAR AND PEACE.
THIS IS A PRESIDENT, THIS IS AN
ADMINISTRATION THAT DOESN’T SEE
THE WORLD AS IT IS AND HAS
CLEARLY NOT OUTMANEUVERED
VLADIMIR PUTIN DIPLOMATICALLY.
NOT OUTMANEUVERED HIM IN TERMS
THE GLOBAL CHESS GAME UNDERWAY.
YOU WILL SEE TONIGHT BIDEN TRY
TO PROJECT STRENGTH.
PERHAPS WHISPER AGGRESSIVELY AT
PEOPLE AND USE THE WORD FOLK A