the david patten and she uh... david taxes dot com welcome lived in the
background
historian boarded by blend
lol in the garden
about a document with said
that the an essay
is
at least through verizon it specifically talked about rise in wireless
obtaining records of millions of customers phone records who called who
uh... without the content without recordings of those messages go for
people who are not even suspected of having committed any crime for people
who are under any kind of suspicion at all the question was
leaked the document who gave these documents to glenn greenwald
and we now know that it is this man
twenty nine-year-old edward snowed in
admits noted has admitted that he is responsible for what is really one of
the most significant leaks in u_s_ political history
he is a twenty nine-year-old former technical assistant for the c_i_a_
and current employees
of the defense contractor booz allen hamilton he'd been working at the
national security agency for the last four years as a as an employee of a
number of different outside contractors including booz allen and dal and asar
just a few days after the additional news broke the guardian is reviewing his
identity
at the request of snowed in himself this is somewhat unusual
here is part of an interview that glenn greenwald did
with edward snowden take a look at this
i'm one of those so time mon twenty nine years old
old ari
work for booz allen hamilton as an infrastructure analyst for an essay
uh... in hawaii
there were some of the sense that you're home previously within the company that
i'd been uh... uh... systems engineer systems administrator are
senior adviser uh... for the uh... central intelligence agency solutions
consultant and that the telecommunications information systems
officer high i think that the public is owed an explanation of the motivations
behind the people who make these disclosures for her outside of the
democratic model
when you are subverting the power of government that that's of fundamentally
dangerous thing to democracy
if you do that in secret consistently you know as the government does uh...
when it wants to benefit from a secret action talk
uh... it'll kind of give its its officials a mandate to go up a you know
tell the press about this thing and that they so public is on our side
but they rarely if ever do that one of the beauty prayers
that falls through our individual citizens
there to clean the line and you know and then snowden talking about
what happens now what happens to him and
he was in cuba picked for the c_i_a_ an essay
he knows exactly what had happened to him
yeah i yeah i could be uh... you know rendered by the c_i_a_ like i could have
a people come after me or any other preferred party partner style you know
they would have worked closely with the number of other nations
uh... well you know if they could pay off the truck answers you know any any
of their agents are assets that
we've we've got a c_i_a_ station just up the road and those of the consulate here
in hong kong
i'm sure that they're going to be uh... very busy because next week
uh...
and that's that's uh... fear our live under for the rest of my life however
long that happens to me
so in and note that what would the first set of documents you provided he wrote
by understand
that i will be made to suffer for my actions but i will be satisfied if the
federation of secret law
unequal pardoned and irresistible executive powers that rule the world
that i love
are revealed even for and instead he has said he doesn't expect to see home again
he doesn't want to live in a society that does these types of things
he believed in president obama's promises presidents openly like the
security office and the government has granted itself
power it is not entitled to
there's so much to discuss here and i wanna first is take a step back although
a bit
uh... and then we're going to talk more specifically about about edward snowden
so number one
this is not about
weather
the n_s_a_
obtaining these phone records from millions of verizon customers who were
not under any specific suspicion
is legal the patriot act makes this legal this is really not uh... also
about knowing that it's going on we we basically knew this was going on
we certainly knew the capabilities existed for this to go on
we just didn't really know the extent of it and this is also
uh... uh... it is of doubt whether the law has to be changed
and why we should or shouldn't be against this and whether people will do
anything content actually change this law what about the politicians as i said
last week who voted for the patriot act but are against this type of
surveillance
they must bear some responsibility on fixing said don't they
and will people protest in the streets
this is very different i think
ben bradlee manning
because number one it hits me much closer to home for a lot of people and
number two the fact that we have this interview with edward snowden
already has made in a different type of character that is going to be far more
difficult to uh... but he won't be beyond scrutiny
but it will be far more difficult to assail his character
there's been a lot of discussion about edward snowden ps uh... uh... uh... the
money that he was paid this two hundred thousand dollar salary where he went to
college
what about bid i don't know that those are really the right things to focus on
red i think that if we're going to talk about the kind of and so a reality side
of the n_s_a_
observing ever having these records specifically the question is
what about private contractors
unbridled power i mean edward snowden says during that interview
that he could basically wiretap anybody he kicked he could get phone records for
whoever he wanted he could if he had the president's private email address if the
president had a private email address
he could read the president's email
uh... so so that those are really the concerns me to put aside a little bit
that edward snowden made two hundred grand a year is in his mid twenties
that's not really the issue here
let's talk specifically about edward snowden
by believe
we need to wait and see exactly what adverts nelene's motors motives were
here
i think that
it is perfectly possible implausible
that entrants norton had the best intentions in
giving these documents the glenn greenwald
i think it is also possible that edward snowden had motives we don't yet know
about that may have that may have pushed him to uh... to contact
one greenwald and to give them these documents
we have a lot of people online all over the place
of valuating the character
and the motives
of someone they had never even heard about until yesterday june ninth reading
from the point of view
of popular culture or the kind of public record
edward snowden did not exist before junit his wikipedia page was created
yesterday
june ninth
we have no idea
except leaving family come from rumsfeld your book
we don't yet know
what we don't know
and that it would slow down and influences actions