COUPLE OF DAYS.
SEND IT BACK TO YOU.
>> Dana: NATE FOYE.
THANK YOU.
>> Bill: ANOTHER ALERT ON THE
POLITICAL FRONT.
WE NOW KNOW WE COULD HAVE TWO
MORE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES IN
THE RACE NEXT WEEK.
GET READY FOR NEWS ON TIM SCOTT
ON MONDAY AND THEN AT SOME POINT
NEXT WEEK WE THINK THE FLORIDA
GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS WILL MAKE
HIS FUTURE CLEAR TO US.
KARL ROVE JOINS US, WROTE ABOUT
IT IN THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL."
GO AHEAD AND GIVE US YOUR
PREVIEW NOW FOR HOW YOU SEE BOTH
GENTLEMEN FITTING INTO THIS AND
WHAT SORT OF INSIDE WORD DO YOU
HAVE ON THE DESANTIS CAMP?
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE WILL HAVE,
IT LOOKS LIKE THE FORMAL ENTRY
OF SENATOR TIM SCOTT ON MONDAY.
EXCITING FIGURE.
HE WAS HERE IN TEXAS AND
MESMERIZED A CROWD OF 500 AT A
VOTER REGISTRATION CONFERENCE.
I THINK WE’LL SEE IT ON THE
CAMPAIGN TRAIL AS WELL.
RON DESANTIS, WHO HAD A VERY
GOOD VISIT LAST WEEKEND TO IOWA,
I WROTE ABOUT IT TODAY IN THE
"WALL STREET JOURNAL," IT WAS
AMAZING HOW TWO DAYS CHANGED THE
COVERAGE OF RON DESANTIS FROM
BEING IN DEEP TROUBLE TO BEING
AN EFFECTIVE CANDIDATE WHO IS
CONNECTING WELL WITH VOTERS IN
IOWA.
AND DEMONSTRATED SOME PERSONAL
SKILLS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
THAT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER HAD
ESCAPED THE ATTENTION OF MANY
OBSERVERS AND JOURNALISTS BEFORE
HIS VISIT.
WE’RE AT THE BEGINNING OF A LONG
PROCESS.
EVERYBODY GETS TO HAVE A CHANCE
TO SHINE.
EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE TO BE IN
THE BARREL WITH BAD PRESS.
THE WINNING CANDIDATE IS LIKELY
TO BE THE CANDIDATE WITH THE
BEST SUSTAINED PERFORMANCE OVER
THE LONG HAUL.
IT WILL BE A LONG HAUL EVEN
THOUGH IT IS NOT THAT MANY
MONTHS BEFORE WE START VOTING IN
IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, NEVADA
AND SOUTH CAROLINA.
>> Dana: YOUR COLUMN IN THE
"WALL STREET JOURNAL" YOU WRITE
THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS SPENT
MONTHS RUNNING MR. DESAPPEDIS
DOWN SAYING HE NEEDS A
PERSONALITY TRANSPLANT.
MANY WONDER IF MR. DESANTIS IS
SO BAD, HOW WAS HE RE-ELECTED BY
20 POINTS IN A DIFFICULT YEAR
FOR REPUBLICANS AND ABLE TO
ADVANCE SUCCESSFUL POLICY?
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT DESANTIS
TRIES TO USE TO DEAL WITH THIS
GAP?
I CAN SHOW YOU THE FOX NEWS
POLL.
THE RECENT ONE OF PRESIDENTIAL
NOMINEES.
DONALD TRUMP AT 53%, DESANTIS
21.
THE REST WAY DOWN IN THE LOW
SINGLE DIGITS?
>> YEAH, TWO POINTS.
ONE IS I WAS MYSTIFIED THE
FORMER PRESIDENT SPENT SO MUCH
TIME TRYING TO TAKE DOWN
DESANTIS.
HE LOWERED THE EXPECTATIONS FOR
DESANTIS AND RAISED SOME
QUESTIONS IN PEOPLE’S MINDS, IF
THIS GUY IS SO BAD HOW DID HE
WIN SO BIG?
DESANTIS BENEFITED FROM THAT
BECAUSE TRUMP WAS NOT GOING TO
GET HIM OUT OF THE RACE AND
TRUMP WAS LOWERING THE
EXPECTATIONS FOR HIM.
THE OTHER THING, THOUGH, THE
FORMER PRESIDENT IS SPENDING A
LOT OF TIME HYPERVENTILATING
ABOUT THE LATEST POLL RESULTS.
THAT’S A MISTAKE.
EARLY POLLS ARE NOT NECESSARILY
THAT DETERMINATIVE OF WHAT WILL
HAPPEN AT THE END?
RUDY GIULIANI LED IN 2008,
HILLARY CLINTON LED IN 2008 DAYS
BEFORE THEY STARTED VOTING IN
IOWA IN 2012, NEWT GINGRICH AND
JEEP BUSH WAS LEADING.
THE EARLY POLLS ARE NOT
NECESSARILY DETERMINATIVE OF
WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END.
WHY SPEND TIME TALKING ABOUT
THEM?
THE POLLS ARE LIKELY TO TIGHTEN
AS PEOPLE GET INTO THE RACE AND
CATCH PUBLIC ATTENTION AND THEY
GET BETTER KNOWN, THOSE NUMBERS
ARE LIKELY TO TIGHTEN?
WHAT WILL THE FORMER PRESIDENT
SAY WHEN IT GOES LESS THAN X?
THIS IS A MISTAKE ON HIS PART.
HE SHOULD BE SPENDING HIS TIME
NOT KNOCKING DESANTIS AND NOT
SPENDING SO MUCH TIME ON THE
POLLS LIKE I’M INEVITABLE BUT
INSTEAD TELLING US WHAT IT IS HE
WANTS TO DO IN A SECOND TERM IF
HE WERE TO BE IN THE REPUBLICAN
NOMINEE AND STATE.
>> THAT’S WHY THE DEBATES ARE SO
IMPORTANT?
WE HAVE THE FIRST ONE IN AUGUST.
YOU’LL HAVE REPUBLICANS ON STAGE
PROMOTING THEIR OWN POLICIES AND
EXPLAIN TO VOTERS HOW THEY WOULD
BE DIFFERENT FROM HOW DONALD
TRUMP RAN HIS OWN POLICIES WHEN
HE WAS PRESIDENT.
AND FOR A LOT OF THESE
CANDIDATES, THERE AIN’T MUCH
ROOM.
>> WELL.
BIG QUESTION LOOMING OVER THIS
IS DONALD TRUMP GOING TO APPEAR?
HE HAS SAID HE IS NOT
NECESSARILY COMMITTED TO DOING
THE DEBATES.
HE DOESN’T THINK HE NEEDS TO DO
THEM.
HE SAID HE COMPLAINED THAT THE
SECOND DEBATE IS GOING TO BE
HELD AT THE RONALD REAGAN
LIBRARY.
DOESN’T WANT TO GO THERE BECAUSE
THE CHAIRMAN OF THE REAGAN BOARD
IS ALSO THE PUBLISHER OF THE
"WASHINGTON POST."
THIS WILL BE A LOT OF DRAMA.
I THINK EVERYBODY SHOWS UP.
IF THEY DON’T SHOW UP, IT WILL
BE A MISTAKE.
PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GROW IN
THE ABSENCE OF PARTICULARLY IF
DONALD TRUMP DOESN’T SHOW UP,
THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GROW IN HIS
ABSENCE.
>> Bill: WE HAVE TO SQUEEZE IN A
BREAK.
THANK YOU, KARL.