A new book releases some more
details of Donald Trump's unhinged
administration.
Particularly when it comes to what
he was planning to do with
Ghislaine Maxwell, or at least,
an idea he had floated about
Ghislaine Maxwell.
Someone who helped lure in
sometimes underage women
to be sexually abused.
It's just it's such
a disgusting story.
So Michael Wolff is writing or
releasing another book about
the Trump administration.
He's the same author behind Fire
and Fury, and in his new book
titled Landslide, he talks about
how Trump was literally considering
pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell.
Trump wondered if she was
going to talk, apparently.
Has she said anything about me?
Is she going to talk?
Will she roll on anybody?
So he was considering pardoning her
to prevent her from speaking about
anything that could incriminate him
in any way, >> Yeah,
it's what the founders wanted.
>> I mean.
>> So, okay, if your whole movement
is predicated on believing that
there is a shadowy influence
network of political elites who use
their influence to protect sexual
predators.
You shouldn't raise up as your god
emperor a guy who wants to use his
political power to protect a sexual
predator from any consequences.
And if he's going to do it,
almost any random reason that
a monkey at a typewriter can come
up with would be better than,
did she say anything about me?
Is she going to roll?
because that's worse, because now
I'm wondering what he did.
It would be one thing if he was
just protecting his buddies, or he
for some reason liked her because
they used to party or whatever.
And I'm not even saying that he did
anything that she would know about.
I don't know.
People flippantly say that they're
sure about that stuff,
I don't know.
>> We don't know, yeah.
>> But he's acting as if he did.
Why would you say that if you
had never done anything?
For instance, I'm not worried about
Ghislaine Maxwell incriminating me,
because I've never been
within a thousand miles of her,
I don't know her.
But he is way more worried,
possibly for a reason.
>> You know, it is fascinating
because one thing that you might
see online from my detractors,
people who want to smear me in any
way, is a picture that I was asked
to take with someone I interviewed
at the Munich Security Conference
a few years ago.
I interviewed Madeleine Albright,
whose political views and
foreign policy I certainly did
not agree with.
And for the interview, they asked
me to take a picture with her, took
a picture, and that picture has
been used against me by bad faith
actors incessantly, incessantly.
>> It's like the one time I shook
Saddam Hussein's hand,
people have been using that against
me a long time.
Context, people.
>> What's fascinating though, is
those very people who claim to be
these, I don't know, fighters for
anti US imperialism or whatever and
all that's bad in the world never
make a point about this photo,
which features Jeffrey Epstein,
Ghislaine Maxwell, Melania Trump,
and of course, Donald Trump.
And just taking a photo- >> That
doesn't bother me so
much because at least, look,
if you're going to be single issue,
if you think the only thing in
politics that matters is
stopping imperialism, then okay,
you're going to be focused on that.
But if you think that the only
thing that matters is stopping
the global cabal of pedophiles,
[LAUGH] >> Then you have to care
about this one.
This is the thing.
This is the most important part.
This is a layup.
>> Totally, I totally
agree with you.
So Trump had previously tried to
downplay his friendship with
Jeffrey Epstein in the wake of his
arrest.
But then last summer,
I'm sure you guys can recall that
he had acknowledged
Ghislaine Maxwell's arrest and
then wished her something.
What was that again?
Remind me, remind me.
>> Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison.
And so a lot of people
want to know if she's going to
turn in powerful people, and
I know you've talked in the past
about Prince Andrew, and you've
criticized Bill Clinton's behavior.
I'm wondering,
do you feel that she's going to
turn in powerful men?
How do you see that working out?
>> I don't know, I haven't really
been following it too much.
I just wish her well, frankly.
I've met her numerous times over
the years, especially since I lived
in Palm Beach, and
I guess they lived in Palm Beach,
but I wish her well.
Whatever it is- >> Yes.
>> I wish her well,
I wish her well.
She's being tried for
sex trafficking of minors, but
I wish her well, I wish her well.
In fact, he doubled down on that.
Let's watch.
>> Mr. President, Ghislaine Maxwell
has been arrested on allegations of
child sex trafficking.
Why would you wish such
a person well?
>> First of all, I don't know that,
but I do know that- >> She has,
she's been arrested for that.
>> Her friend or
boyfriend- >> Epstein.
>> Was either killed or
committed suicide in jail.
She's now in jail.
Yeah, I wish her well,
I'd wish you well,
I'd wish a lot of people well.
Good luck.
Let them prove somebody was guilty.
I mean, you do know that- >> So
you're saying you hope she
doesn't die in jail.
Is that what you mean by
wish her well?
>> Her boyfriend died in jail and
people are still trying to figure
out, how did it happen?
Was it suicide?
Was he killed?
And I do wish her well.
I'm not looking for
anything bad for her.
I'm not looking bad for anybody.
And they took that and
made it such a big deal.
>> But she's an alleged child
sex trafficker.
>> But all it is is her boyfriend
died, he died in jail.
Was he killed?
Was it suicide?
I do, I wish her well.
>> I wish anyone well,
hear that tracks with everything
that we know about Trump.
No, the dude is quite
adept at wishing people not well,
the opposite of well.
>> It's part of his brain.
>> When he doesn't like people,
you're not going to do well.
So he can do that.
He's choosing not to in this case.
And so one can actually wonder,
why is this the person that you're
just, you're wishing them luck or
whatever?
Did he say that about Cosby?
Did he say that?
He doesn't say that
about every random criminal?
He said it about this criminal.
>> Central Park Five.
>> Who he's partied with.
>> Central Park Five.
>> Exactly, yeah,
did he wish them well?
>> No, no, he wanted them executed,
even when they were found innocent
through DNA evidence.
So I don't know.
Seems like he's got a little bit of
a double standard.
>> He's like,
I believe they lived in Palm Beach.
Dude, you partied with them.
Don't talk about where they might
or might not have lived.
You hung out in the same social
circles with them.
>> It's also kind of sick that
Michael Wolff, and he's not the
only one, authors who have written
about Donald Trump wait for their
opportunistic moment to publish
these things, these revelations.
And there's something concerning
about that,
very deeply concerning about it.
But also at the same time,
would it make a difference if
he had shared this with the public
while Trump was still in office?
I don't think it would.
I just, anyway.
>> I know you have another terrible
revelation.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah, I mean, look, objectively,
I would prefer
to hear these things,
because even though they might
not work with Trump right now,
maybe with other people they would.
So as much as I might understand
the profit motive, you want to have
a juicy tidbit to sell your book or
whatever, yeah,
I value democracy over your ability
to get a cool car.
So yeah, I understand they get
a lot of press and everything, and
obviously, we need this.
They have done something in
acquiring the information.
But we get to criticize them for
holding it back when it's no longer
of as immediate public interest
outside of the context of
an incredibly important election.
>> Absolutely, well, speaking of
elections, one other revelation
from Michael Wolff's book is that
Donald Trump really did consider
calling off the 2020 general
election by using martial law.
And luckily,
he was talked out of it.
This was during a debate prep
session with Chris Christie, and
Wolff writes that Trump said,
I'm thinking about calling it off.
Christie responds, the prep?
And Trump says, no, the election,
too much virus.
>> [LAUGH] Too much virus.
>> So he was going to use
the pandemic to declare, I'm sorry,
not martial law,
a national security to call off,
national security, national
emergency to call off the election.
>> Yeah, and he had sort of implied
the possibility of that publicly.
He had joked about it,
talked about it.
He clearly wasn't joking,
regardless of what look he might
have had on his face.
Yeah, I mean,
thankfully it didn't happen.
He didn't have the capacity to, but
he could have tried.
It could have led to
some sort of constitutional crisis.
So thankfully, we avoided that.
I wonder if the reason that he
didn't is not so much a deep and
abiding respect for
American elections and
the democratic process, and
more that his excuse would be
that there's too much virus, and
he didn't want to acknowledge that
the pandemic was a serious thing
[LAUGH].
>> Too much virus.
>> Too much virus >> There is too
much virus.
I've bungled this.
[LAUGH] >> People are saying
I bungled it,
calling off the election.
Well, luckily he didn't.
>> Yeah, luckily.
>> But I feel like we're still
living in the same dystopia,
unfortunately.