This is exactly what I expected.
Did you bring out the old [CROSSTALK] arrogant go for it?
Geraldo.
Come on, keep going.
>> Okay Joey.
>> You're making a fool of yourself.
On this- >> Don't you?
You know something you're insulting punk.
>> [LAUGH] >> Okay [CROSSTALK]
>> What am I your new Bongino?
>> [LAUGH] >> If you want that role.
>> As you can tell, things got a little bit hairy on Fox's, The Five last night.
That was when Geraldo Rivera and
Greg Gutfield went at it over the topic of abortion.
And so that means that it is time for
another installment of, [SOUND] yes, that's right.
It is the cat fight.
And that clip that you had seen, well,
that came at the very end of their conversation.
So now let's look at what led to it.
First, Rivera criticizes how Supreme Court justices are allowed to lie about their
true intentions in confirmation hearings.
Which is a very good point.
But then Joey Jones offers some kind of excuse only for
Rivera to go on with him, watch this.
>> I think that first of all Republicans make a mistake when
they emphasize the crime of the leak itself over the impact
of what the decision would entail for the women.
And I think that emotion however,
you think of those particular personalities that is legit.
This is more problematic I think.
And judge I think you'd agree with me what this shows because it goes both ways.
What this shows is that the senate confirmation process by
which a nominee is interrogated by both parties and
give their reasons why they are fit to be on the high court,
is absolutely deeply flawed.
Why?
Because these nominees lie.
You know if I was accused of being a serial rapist because I liked beer at 16,
I'd probably say whatever I needed to, to get the hell out of that building.
[LAUGH] >> I agree with that Joey.
>> Yeah, so later Greg Gutfield, well, he outright lies on camera saying that on
social media that it's filled with people right now bragging about their abortions
and then that's when things really got messy.
>> The other thing that drives me crazy now that I'm on my soapbox is it used
to be, even the pro-choicers would admit that abortion was an ugly thing.
But they felt it had to be a necessary evil,
something that would be safe and rare.
That was the argument you always heard.
But now when you go anywhere on social media,
it's something to celebrate to cherish, right?
[CROSSTALK] I'll can give you evidence.
>> The wire hanger stuck up their private school trying to get-
>> [CROSSTALK]
>> The unborn child become-
>> [CROSSTALK]
>> This is exactly what I expected that
they bring out the old arrogant go go for it.
Geraldo, Come on, keep going.
>> Okay Joey.
>> You're making a fool of yourself.
>> On this- >> Don't don't you,
you know something you're insulting punk?
>> [LAUGH] >> What?
I'm I your new Bongino.
>> [CROSSTALK] >> Now I know
Jake you have some insight into this clip and what was really going on.
So I will go ahead and pass it to you.
>> Okay, so there's two different things here.
We're gonna get to the abortion issue, which they're talking about.
But there was a little bit of internal Fox news politics there, if you noticed.
So now Geraldo and Dan Bongino have been yelling at each other on a number of
segments, mainly on Hannity's show and Gutfielt was referring to that.
But if you noticed, he said to Geraldo, they're like,
basically, what are you gonna do?
All right, go ahead, are you going to insult me?
That's Gutfield saying, I'm not Bongino, I'm more powerful at Fox and you
better watch yourself cuz if you insult me, you're gonna be in a lot of trouble.
And if you notice when he said that, Geraldo all of a sudden did quiet up.
Because he does understand the internal politics of Fox news,
and Gutfeld is a bigger host there.
So all of a sudden he backed down a little bit, okay.
So that was an interesting part of the catfight.
But now, okay, let's talk about the issue at hand.
Of course, Gutfield is talking about all their bragging about having abortion,
you know is oftentimes a very traumatic event in a woman's life.
But at the same time, by the way, I also wanna say,
I think people like myself and a lot of women are done apologizing for it.
The right wing wants to make them feel terrible for like, if you have
an abortion, you're a bad person, it's a dirty act, you should feel terrible.
No, no deal, No deal.
It's your body, it's your choice, we don't have to apologize to anybody for it.
So I don't know.
I have no interest in going back to the bad old days where I was like, your dog,
it's a necessary evil and it's so bad and evil.
No, I don't agree.
By the way, my personal opinion is abortion is no big deal.
You're not allowed to say that, Christians will be really mad.
Okay, don't care.
Let them get mad.
I'm not Christian.
I don't think it's a big deal at all, to be honest with you.
I think it's an elective procedure where you're moving a tiny little
cell in your body that hasn't grown to a damn thing.
You're not allowed to have that opinion.
Well, too bad for you, I do have that opinion and I just stated it.
>> I absolutely agree with you.
I don't think abortion is something that should be considered a big deal as opposed
to simply healthcare and making a decision that governs your body and
the life that you want to lead and the options that are available to you.
And it seems like too many people have enjoyed shaming women in particular for
making the choice and using that bodily autonomy and deciding their own destinies.
And so that's why we're seeing so
many states wanting to pass laws that interfere with that because that's one of
the most powerful things you can have as a human being.
That bodily autonomy and determining how you choose to bring your body,
how you choose to interact with it and its interaction with the world.
And so these ideas also that people are online bragging about their abortions,
they're not.
I read a story the other day a woman had tweeted out that she was raped
by her by a man when she was 13 and that she had to get an abortion.
I read the other day about a woman who was raped by someone in the military with her
and had to get an abortion.
These often are born out of trauma.
And so when we fail to recognize that we are failing to recognize someone's full
humanity and
we are denying them the opportunity to own their exercise of bodily autonomy.
And that's a problem.
>> Yeah.
So when you're telling one of the worst things that's ever happened in your life,
a story of getting raped and having to have an abortion,
I'm pretty sure that's not celebrating it.
But that's the disgusting people at Fox News, they think,
we're gonna take away women's freedom.
So we have to pretend that they had it coming and
otherwise they celebrate evil acts.
And notice how they're constantly calling us immoral and when we push back and
TYT is about, I mean, now there's more people, there's people online,
there's a lot of Millennials and Gen Z who don't believe in the old rules.
The old rules are the ones that are on mainstream media and
the mainstream Democrats follow, which is, I don't know, but
you're not allowed to push back against Republicans.
Well, for us and all the people that I just mentioned that are in the new school,
no, the Republicans are immoral.
They're the ones who hate freedom.
It's a fact.
You can't argue with it.
You can't say I'm gonna take away your freedom to control your own body, but
I love freedom.
No, if you say that, I mean, I guess you can say that cuz you're a moron and
you're admitting you're a moron.
Just say it admit it, I hate freedom if it's for women.
I wanted to have them service chattel for us and and do things that they don't want.
I want to take away their consent completely.
And I want the jack booted thugs of the government to do it.
Of course, that's Republicans.
They're immoral.