How old is he?
Easton, 23.
23, Provo Utah.
That's a good age.
Could be...oh, mission in Hawaii.
(laughing) Wait, that guy's good looking.
Oh, man.
Wait really, You didn't like him?
(laughing)
This is so shallow.
Okay, wait I want to read a bio.
Sabrina, what is your type?
Wait, I want to see.
I'm just swiping up, I'm just swiping up.
Let me get a bio.
I like the way you're walking
if you're walking my way.
Oooh, that is good.
So, right now we've got some Later Day Saint dating tips
from various sources,
different opinions on the inter-webs and such
Oh, yeah
And we're gonna go through and see if they're valid or
not maybe this will help you in your dating life,
whether you're trying to date a member of the church or
you're a member of the church trying
to date another member of the church.
Yes.
Yeah and I'll give you the girl perspective
and they can give the very confusing
guys are great at dating perspective.
I have great dating tips, we need to make another video.
Oh, yeah are your single?
No.
Yeah you are, ish.
No I'm not.
Confused.
By the time this comes out...
(laughing)
By the time this comes out, I probably won't be.
Okay I just wanna read, there's one
that I really think is hilarious.
Okay, yeah I'm ready for you.
So, here we've got a quote form LDS Living that says,
"When a girl says no, stop, it is your responsibility
to make the girl feel emotionally, physically
and spiritually safe."
- Okay, that's a good quote.
- Now that's good right like if
she says "No, stop." Respect her but
then there's, there's this like...
It's like those double stan...
You say something good and then you say something bad
at the same time and if you say no
to the whole thing then you're bad.
It is your responsibility to make the girl
feel emotionally, physically and spiritualty safe.
You can't make anyone feel anything.
- Okay, I'm gonna give that to you.
- If a girl feels uncomfortable,
it's not necessarily your fault
unless you're like going out of your way.
So, I just think guys do not have the responsibility
to make a girl happy.
- Yeah, I agree.
- In the same way a girl doesn't have
the responsibility to make a guy happy
but we just say that all the time
"Does he make you happy?"
- Yes.
- And then you have one bad day
and your break up because he doesn't
make you happy for a day.
- Yeah.
- I like the term help, does he help your happiness?
- That's, I feel like that's better.
- That's very good, that's good.
- Yeah so, relationships are like freaking hard
and it take work from both people.
- Right...
- Yes they do.
- So it's you're responsibility to help them feel
emotionally, spiritually, physically safe
but you can't make anybody do anything.
- Right.
- Okay, beef done.
- Okay another quote that, good advice
to the boys and I've agreed with this one
"Girls emotionally bond through a physical touch
"much more than guys do, so be careful who you choose
"to be romantic, touchy physical with."
and I think this...
- Whee-ooo, whee-ooo, whee-ooo, whee-ooo, whee-ooo.
PC police here, that is a stereotype about women
- No, I think...
- Whee-ooo, whee-ooo, whee-ooo
- Okay.
- I am very offended.
- Think it's like...
- No take, cut that out...
- Sorta true though.
- Cut that out, it's making fun of liberals
and I'm one of them okay.
- Stop.
- And I'm one of them. (laughing)
- Okay I think it is like, I don't know, I feel like
guys always like initiate like kissing and touching
and stuff and I feel like,
I like hold that stuff like really personal.
It's like if I kiss a guy like pretty invested
but maybe they don't feel the same way
which like, a little rough.
- Well see what's funny is I...
- But I think that might be a personal thing
not like a sex or gender thing.
- I think it's more personal because I've been
on the opposite end of that, where I've kissed a girl
and that means a lot to me
and then she's like "This doesn't mean anything."
- Okay, so let's throw out that comment
it's not gender specific okay...
- I know what you're talking about...
- Just be careful who you kiss.
- Women throw themselves on me all the time
and it makes me very scared so...
(laughing)
- I think the general rule is
if you show physical affection make sure it's sincere.
- Yeah.
- Especially if it's hand holding and kissing.
- Right.
- Hugs, I think everybody needs some good hugs you know.
- Yeah, yeah.
- But if it's like dating kind of affection
make sure you're, have the right intention.
- Alright, okay...
- Oh, okay...
- Wait, wait, wait, wait I gotta stop ya,
here's the thing. People who're watching this show
who are not affiliated with the church
who are not part of our religion or faith
who are just at University of Arkansas or whatever...
- Sure and Arizona...
- Yeah and you too.
- Are listening to us and their like
"These people think that kissing and the holding hands
"is committal, is like I'm sleeping with a person
"every weekend, these guys..."
- But but here's the...
- From the outside perspective we sound crazy right now.
- But I...
- Okay but like...
- People who sleep together, how often do they hold
their hands, hold hands?
- I don't know, I'm not sleeping with anyone.
- I'm just saying like you watch movies
and stuff where people have one night stands
and everything like very rarely are they going
and having lunch and holding hands
and showing natural affection, it's usually just
what can I get out of this relationship and move on.
- Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone movie does
not dictate the relationship...
- Oh...
♪ You're right, I'd never ♪
♪ Fall for you at all ♪
- Okay, okay.
- He has a good point though.
- I don't think that's true.
- I've got a good point.
- My friends who are not on the church
who are dating, who were sle...
- But they were dating, you said they were dating.
- Hey, hey look
"Use physical affection sparingly and meaningfully."
Mormon Buzz.
- If you're sleeping with someone and you're dating
well, then of course you're gonna show physical affection
because you're dating, if you're not dating
well then just be careful because regardless
of your religion mixed signals are confusing.
- Yeah, Amen. Preach it.
- Yeah, LDS Living says
"Beware of aggressive girls,
(laughing)
"but don't be turned off when a girl takes initiative."
- I kind of, I mean, ooh...
- Okay, so this is something...
- I would be aware of aggressive because you know...
- Well, how do you define aggressive?
- Like I don't know, there's aggressive guys out there
and we all know who they are,
where they like text you and text you and text you,
you don't respond so they call you...
- We've gotta do an episode about that.
- And then you don't respond and they Instagram you like...
- Yeah, space...
- Like space is good.
- Like space is so good.
- But like if she takes initiative and asks you
on a date and then, like I think that's okay
that's not aggressive but if she like asks you
on a date and then asks you on a date and
then asks you on a date and then
call you non-stop, that's a little creepy.
- Yeah, I've had my fair share of aggressive girls
but there's also people who are not aggressive
they're just socially illiterate in terms
of dating and don't understand.
- We should honestly do an episode about social literacy.
- Yeah.
- I agree, I'm on it.
- Like if you call me five times in a row
I'm never gonna respond to another one
of your calls ever again.
- Or text me five times in a row.
- Like I don't, it's my least favorite thing.
- Like I say I'm a bad texter but
I text people back who I care about.
- Yeah, if I, that's so true.
- I'll also say though...
- Sorry to all the boys who are watching
that I don't text back.
- I would say boys, if you have a date plan
with a girl and she cancels because she's tired
the odds are, she's just not interested.
There's a lot of tired girls in Provo
and you know what, let me tell ya they're not tired.
- The worst thing ever though is that there was
this girl that I liked and I got
that response, she's like "I can't. I'm busy."
and I'm like okay, my bad "She's not interested."
and then a year later we like hang out or whatever and
she's like "Oh, yeah like I totally liked you and stuff."
and I'm like "arggggh".
- I bet that was confusing.
- She's playing the game.
- Okay, speaking of confusing guys this is actually like
a more serious quote that I actually really love
it says "Don't seek perfection, seek potential."
and then President Hinckley said
"What really matters is that he will love you,
"that he will respect you, he will honor you,
"that he will absolutely be true to you,
"that he will give you freedom of expression and
"let you fly in the development of your own talents."
but my favorite part of that is
don't seek perfection, seek potential.
I think sometimes we go into relationships
and it's like "Oh, well this relationship is
"so confusing like I don't know what's gong on."
it's like I think your expectations are
to high for a relationship like it
takes work for two people to fall in love
and like you're not gonna find someone that's
like absolutely perfect but
if you can find someone who's willing
to work at a relationship then I think...
- I think, well I think it comes
to the chosen one you know, like the one
and I think the prophets and apostles made it
very clear that there isn't one person
we're destined to be with.
- Yeah.
- Which is contra...like a lot of people believe that
but it's not like it takes effort and work...
- Two righteous people can make it work.
- Yes, also two righteous people may not work
and that's still okay doesn't mean you weren't righteous.
- Yeah. Good point, good point.
Okay, this one's so funny
"Don't go on a blind date with a guy who's doubling
"with a mission buddy, unless you want to hear about
"their missions the entire night."
I think it's fine to go on a date with your mission buddy,
like is your homie you like each other as friends
- What...
- So, you know you might as well hang out.
- One time I was on a date and we to a restaurant
and I ran into my favorite mission companion
on a date at the same restaurant
so we just sat next to each other
and then the poor girls literally sat there
and listened to him and I talk about
our missions for like an hour.
- So, he's the typical, don't double
with him and his mission companion.
- But the fun part was, this companion and I
we were like laughing, the girls were laughing
at our stories...
No, no it was more like the ha,ha,ha (table slap)
like real laughing.
- Were you dating a warthog? What is going on?
- That's how I laugh. I'm not a warthog.
- Hey boys, hit me with one of these quotes...
- When I was a young warthog...
♪ When I was a young warthog ♪
- Very nice.
- This is a good one.
- Wait I got one, I got one. I gotta go.
- Okay.
- "Don't talk about how hot that guy was that you saw.
"You wouldn't want him doing that to you,
"so don't do it to him."
- Okay, that's like the most obvious rule.
- No it's not. No it's not
because here's why, let me tell ya...
- You should not be like "Oh that guy's so hot."
when you're with another guy.
- Have you ever watched a movie with a girl
and Ryan Gosling steps on and
the girl goes "He's so hot."
I had a girlfriend, he comes on
and she's like "Oh, he's so hot."
First date, he comes on and "He's so hot."
and I just sit there just like "Well, I feel ugly."
- You're watching a movie and Ryan Reynolds is
on screen and she's got her arm there and
now you gotta flex for the next hour and 30 minutes.
Wait, I'm gonna say it.
I identify as a feminist, I say I'm pretty woke
but look there's a double standard here.
When girls talk about how hot a guys is, it's totally fine.
When guys talk about how hot a girl is
we're misogynistic, we're objectifying it is not fair.
- Can you imagine if Jennifer Lawrence walked on the screen
I'm with my date, holding her hand and I go
"Jennifer Lawrence is so hot."
- You can't.
- I'd be murdered.
- Yeah, okay double standard.
- Unfair, unfair.
- Let's just not go into each other.
As a woman who enjoys my career, I love my job
and what I do.
"Don't be afraid to show your intelligence,
don't pretend to be dumb just to cater to his ego."
Ladies never ever, ever, ever do that.
One time I was in the car and one of my friends,
love'em to death but idiot moment
he was like "Sabrina, you should not tell people
"about you're job and like how successful you are
"because it might intimidate them
and they might not want to date you."
and I was like "Well, those are not the boys I wanna date."
and ladies you should feel that same way.
Any words from the boys?
- And if you also...
- I agree.
- If you don't want a career, like I've a lot
of friends who just want to be moms...
- Yeah, that's fine.
- That's also okay.
- I would love to become a mom.
- It's like weird how like people who have careers
feel like their oppressed, people who don't
want careers fells like their oppressed
everyone feels like everyone is against them
just do what you want to do and you'll find
a guy who compliments that.
Don't force yourself into a relationship...
- Never change who you are.
- Because you think that's what it's supposed to be.
Like for example, I hate the idea of work
I will work if I have to, it'd be wonderful if
my wife could make the bills and
I just gotta stay at home with the kids
that sounds amazing.
- Well, I'm not marrying Justin. (laughing)
- I'm just saying there's guys like that out there,
there's also guys who really want to work
and if you don't want that kind of husband
then don't marry him.
- Hey another quote,
"Don't be so concerned about his physical appearance
"and his bank account that you overlook
"his important qualities."
So, maybe don't focus to much...
- But you should be attracted to him.
- Yeah.
- Buts girls don't care about looks as much
as guys do on average.
- Okay you will always see a really attractive woman
with a not so attractive guy
but you'll hardly ever see a not so attractive guy
with a really like, oh wait...
- You said it backwards.
- Okay, so you will see a really attractive guy...
- You were in my space the whole show,
ya need to get ya here, I'll get here.
- Okay help me with this quote you will always see...
- I got my space.
- A really, really attractive girl with a
not so attractive guy but you won't see
a very attractive guy with a not so attractive girl.
It annoys me.
- Is this politically correct to say,
I don't if it is and we get in trouble but
I think it's because men care about looks
more than women do in general...
- It's genetics, it's biology.
- And so I don't know anything about that
if it's biology, I'm just saying...
- Girls care about looks less than guys
and so that means guys if you're not that good looking
doesn't matter, brush your teeth, shave, iron your shirt
get some good fitting clothing, go after her.
- Smell good.
- Smell good, don't be a weirdo though.
- Love the smell, I'm a big thing about smell.
- I want to throw in a cool comment here
so sometimes guys compliment girls all the time,
you know guys will be like...
- Calm down on the compliments.
- Don't do it.
- So guys need to calm down on the compliments
because then they become less sincere
and I think girls need to up the compliments.
It's really cool when a girl says that you're attractive
or cute or handsome...
- I fell like I try to compliment a guy.
- Yeah, it's good. I didn't realize how little
compliments I got as a guy until
I started dating and I realized,
I'd always be saying "Oh, you're so beautiful."
"You're so smart, you're so..."
and then they would just never say anything
and not like I expected it
but it was like, "Oh, they just..."
it's just not part of our culture
so that's also okay.
- Because, well here's the thing I'm just gonna say
look we all play the game okay,
we all play the game and it's dating
and girls want something,
people want things they can't have
people want things they can't have okay, that's the truth.
- We want a wedding ring.
- And here's the thing that happens,
if you compliment them so much,
you make yourself available and
they've already got ya, they lose interest.
You need to make yourself mysterious,
you need to make yourself not so easy to get
and then you'll get the results you want.
This is the truth. The illuminati is keeping it
from you but I'm letting you know, this is the truth.
(long beep)
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- Tell us what you think about dating.
- And please if you have any questions
Kwaku knows all the answers that's why he's married.
- Kwaku, will you...
- I'm not married.
- With a really cute friend?
- Oh, wait he's not so don't ask Kwaku your
questions because he probably doesn't know.
- Want to throw a name out there? Just kidding.
- I do have some good looking friends.