Hi. I'm Pedro from Coffee Parts, and today we're looking at the Eagle One Prima
With André Eiermann, we are lucky enough to have from part of the VAT team in Italy
First things first.
Let's make a coffee and then we can dive into this machine.
Awesome.
One for you.
One for me.
Let's go
I really do love the look of this machine.
One for you.
Thank you. one, for me.
Cheers.
Not bad.
Tasty. Tasty. I like it. Delicious.
Sweet, juicy.
Lingering.
Now the machine's beautiful.
There's plenty of reviews online that will talk about the specs, the boiler
size, the elements, the steam switches, how they fly by wire.
But more importantly, I want to hear from you.
You were there when they designed the machine.
When they built the machine through all the choices.
Explain to me how this machine came about and what makes it special in your heart.
Love to do that.
I went to Italy, and suddenly it was Fabio.
And Marco, they clapped on my shoulder and invited me into a tiny little room
where they normally work on the prototypes.
And I was quite surprised
when I saw literally a two group Eagle One
cut in half, pushed together.
And that was how this Eagle One Prima was born.
So that was the birth.
They literally started with the commercial machine.
That's very well regarded. And they chopped it.
And we're going to make a small version.
Yes, absolutely.
Fabio has been working in design, architecture, furniture for all his life.
So he really has this passion for details, design, esthetics.
I can see the details here like this.
Little things like this.
And the feet really remind me of like watches and like that kind of
very specific, very attention to detail.
And as is something that I noticed earlier.
Sorry to interrupt.
And the one thing that allowed us to do that
and to make a very compact machine was the new engine called the Neo,
which is the instant heating technology that is
small in size,
but also very efficient when it comes to electricity.
And that's what's in the group head, right?
Absolutely.
So we have te group head here PID controlled.
Then we have this Neo engine here in the back.
This may maybe the size of a Red Bull can also PID controlled.
These two together are separate from the steam boiler.
The steam boiler, of course, responsible for the hot water
as well as the steam, but they are not connected to each other.
So here to is for the hot water, instant heating Neo.
And here you will have the boiler for the steam in the hot water.
So this allows for ultimately really good temperature stability.
And these temperatures all controlled via the app, is that right? Yes.
So you have two options to operate the Eagle One Primmer for no big fuss.
You can just use the three buttons and the program via the group head.
You can choose.
First of all, the temperature. Yep.
You can go into the menu and program your dosis and of course, you can do
the automatic cleaning runs and that goes without any app.
So the basic functions, uh, you can use
without having an app once you want to go a step further.
You pretty much can jump into a rabbit hole.
Yeah. The machine is fully digital.
Integrate it so you can run it via the app and you can really go
deep, deep, deep, deep, deep until you can profile the tiniest
little detail of your espresso shots.
You can create an espresso menu card
with all the taste descriptors
Taste, balance, sweetness, acidity, the bitterness.
You can talk about flavors, you can make a flavor wheel.
And then at the end, you can also talk about tactile.
So body mouthfeel to finish.
And if you like, you can share that in the cloud
with the global coffee community.
That's really cool.
But one thing that like when we were talking earlier that really struck
a chord with me is not only can you control that from a coffee side,
but also from a sustainability side that worked on creating
like the Purge really short to save on water, water filters, etc..
Can you talk a bit more about that?
Sustainability is something that it's always been passionate.
Like my heart and the way we run Coffee Pats, to be fair.
But it's something that I'm impressed to see machines kind of consider
one of the core values of Victoria Arduino is sustainability.
So we look at creating a new machine
already before we start looking at creating it.
We already have in mind there will be a date that the machine
will go out of life.
So that's why we choose how we choose the components.
So we use stainless steel, we use aluminum, and we try to reduce,
uh, plastic or materials, uh, similar
to that to the absolute minimum.
That is one thing you mentioned the auto purge.
So baristas, they know they need to purge the shower screen after each shot
first of all, to keep the machine in a good, uh, working condition.
But secondly, also to make sure all shots
are super tasty once you take the portafilter out,
you can program for how many seconds you want to have a delay.
And then the shower screen will shower or rinse automatically.
And the pre setting is one second delay and 2 seconds, uh,
flushing.
And we are thinking about the 2 seconds because one second
wouldn't be long enough to properly clean the shower screen.
3 seconds would already be too much.
And looking at the purging if you purge, for example, for 10 seconds,
you will purge with water for 10 seconds that need it to run through a filter
that needed to be heated up to the desired temperature.
So you're actually wasting resources?
Yeah.
In a country like Australia that there has been droughts
and I mean wrath water is a precious resource.
It's nice to start thinking about ways to like to use technology
to bring that down because a lot of times
I see a barista here to kind of walk away and do other things, which is cool.
But there is a lot of wastage,
like in all those touch points, like you said, the water,
the water filter, the temperature, all the energy from heating up that water.
So it's just wasting a lot.
So I thought that was really cool.
A simple thing, but cool.
That's also why we integrated the NEO engine.
It's really instant heating.
This tiny little small boiler still saturated PID control,
but you literally heat the water at the moment when you need it
for an extraction and you don't just heat water in a big boiler.
Uh, the entire, uh, day long That's really cool.
And now moving from coffee to steam.
What was the choice behind going from a valve to a solenoid operated
or some people call a fly by wire where you just tapping
the effectively a switch to activate the steam in the hot water?
Was that a design or was that ergonomics or several reasons for sure.
Ergonomics is important.
That's again a technology that we developed for,
uh, professional baristas in cafes
that keep, uh, texturing milk nonstop.
So instead of turning a knob, you just the tip to start
or to purge tip again to stop.
So, uh, the impact on your body is absolutely minimal.
Yeah.
From a maintenance point of view is super easy to maintain.
It's a Solenoid valve, so there is no maintenance involved.
Therefore, uh, that makes it easy
for technicians and there is also no service to be done on that.
For those who aren't technically minded, the solenoid valve is basically
an electronic tap.
When it gets current, pulls a piston, opens, closes it's a very, very simple
and they really don't fail all that much.
So it's pretty cool that you've done it.
I know it's not the first machine to do it,
but I do like
not only from a look perspective, but like you said, the ergonomics of it.
Actually, this works well.
It comes in aluminum.
So it's, uh, material or
is a part made of one single material?
It is light.
So also we had in mind when we develop a machine,
the machine will be built by hand in Italy and then it will be shipped.
So we want to build machines
that are built to last, but also, uh, they are a light.
So in terms of transportation, we can reduce the CO2 emissions.
To be honest, I haven't thought about that, but it's really cool.
I always think sometimes is a bit too much room in the boxes of machines
you take out more cube volume.
What a genially sea fright, but you take in more cube.
I do like when there is an excessive packaging just to protect the machine.
But yeah, the lightness of it does make sense as well from my ship's burn fuel.
Right.
The machine itself, when you lift it up, I mean, it's heavy.
You can really feel, uh, there is, uh,
there are solid parts, uh, built into it.
When you would lift a group head to feel a commercial machine built for home.
Like, everything on this machine is commercial.
Yeah, absolutely.
One thing I like I've seen online is
people have mentioned that the water tanks quite small,
but I assume a lot of people that would be buying
this machine would be plumbing it in.
So that's probably a non-issue.
And it feels like a machine for really espresso passionate people.
So they're probably not going to be pulling that much water anyway.
Is that was that part of the design?
You can use the machine either running it from the tank,
but there comes a kit with every machine so you can switch easily
from a tank, uh, to plug it in or vice versa.
And I think many would probably on this machine would probably be plumbing it in.
Yeah, that's what we have seen here in Australia.
And you mentioned, uh, uh, you think it's made uh,
to uh, pull delicious, uh, espresso shots or black coffee.
But I can tell you we worked a lot on the steam
because nevertheless, uh, the majority, uh, loves.
uh, flat, white, uh, lates, uh, cappuccinos.
So we worked a lot on the steam
This machine comes
with a steam pressure that is set at 2.2 bars.
So that is higher compared to fully controlled by the at absolutely nothing.
You can control it, uh, by the app
and that will give you so super dry steam.
So we'll get beautiful, uh, textured milk.
That's super creamy, that's super sweet.
And, uh, all the people we had in the lab working on it for the first time,
they were truly amazed by the quality of the textured milk
one thing going back to the design that I like about this
machine is depending on your kitchen, it can sit beautifully against the wall.
It does have from the barista side a beautiful finish window.
I've just mentioned tiny details, but if you were to have it in Island
I do like that.
The flip side of it, too. It's not just the box.
It does look good.
You got the lighting in it like it does really look good from whichever angle.
And I think that's cool.
Not only if you're putting in an island
in the kitchen against the wall or in a coffee cart
they really can see it from visually, from multiple angles.
And I love this sign to fall in love more and more with this machine.
It's a beautiful machine.
Here we have it in matte black in the back.
But there's a LED, the light bar.
You can switch that on or off
from your app and it just makes it stand out even more,
either from the coffee cart or from your island kitchen.
And if someone did want to obviously comes
in multiple colors, but if they did want a personalized color
pulling these panels apart,
I believe it's only a couple of screws on top and the panels come out
and you can go powder coat paint it through whatever, whatever floats you very easy.
There are four screws up here.
You lift, uh, away the top and then open up and all the two screws
and you take off the side panels, you take off the back panels.
The Eagle One Prima is really designed to be customized
and you can, uh, color it, uh, in any color you wish.
I heard your light green so that I'm having a bit of a green moment,
and I think, you know, in six months time we might be yellow, but I do like that.
I can just send it off to the painters and still have fundamentally
the same machine grinders a little bit more for paint, the paint,
but the machines, it's,
it's nice to be able to change up and keep the house fresh in winter summer colors.
And I probably do black for winter and then go fresh color for summer.
That would be awesome.
Also, when you look at all the details
the portafilter there, handle comes in a ladder.
So that really gives you a nice touch and feel
when you pull your espresso shots in the morning.
I think a cool thing to do is
we looked at the machine, but really what makes this machine great
is not just the build of the machine, but how deep into the app
So I think it would be cool to go through the app and kind of this have a look at
what makes the app special and how that controls the machine.
So let's take a look at the app now
and how the app works with the coffee machine.
So first I will connect the app via Bluetooth to the machine.
We can have a look at the display.
And then here on the display we see the set,
the temperature, the last shot time.
31 seconds the pump pressure.
We will see the real time reading once we start the extraction.
And you also see the 2.2 bars in the steam boiler.
That's my coffee. Yep.
Once we start the extraction, you see the stock shot timer stops
and the pump is going up
to the desired setting
and we are pulling out a tasty
looking espresso shot while being able to monitor
what's happening inside the machine
via the display
so the app is actually huge.
So we've just ran this shot.
All the details are up on the app.
What we're going to do is we'll have a full video
on the app, which will do it as a separate video.
So you can watch the full probably about 15, 20 minute video in deep from the app.
But for now, we just ran that shot.
We've got the details on that shot
and it's just cool to be able to see how the machine's correlating with the app
and what can be seen
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And thank you to Andre for being here.
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