Although both grinders are slightly different
when it comes to coffee in the cup, I'll find it quite difficult to pick
which grinder to use
Welcome
Hi, I'm
Pedro from Coffee Parts and we're looking at two on demand home
coffee grinders, Rancilios new Stile
and a well known Eureka Specialita
Now, both these grinders are quite
similar on paper, similar sized blades with the Rancilio
using 58 mm flat, while the Eureka's using 55 mm flat.
Both have similar footprints, similar height, similar size hoppers,
and even similar screens, but there is some variances between the two.
When it comes to hoppers, Rancilio have really nailed the hopper.
Now it sounds simple, but if you saw the Rancilio review we did
recently, this hopper really is cool and by that
I mean the hopper lid is removable and you can use it as a grounds catcher.
So normally you have a grounds catcher, you kind of lose.
You don't use this is easy.
Use it when you're not using it goes back to being a lid.
Now talking about a lid when you remove the hopper
for cleaning, for change, for whatever it might be to remove it,
you have to pull the shut off here by pulling the shut off,
which means you're going to remove the hopper.
But without dropping any beans on Eureka, you could remove the hopper
without shutting it closed
and letting beans go everywhere if you weren't paying attention.
and Rancilio have really solved this
Not only have they solved this,
but when you do remove the hopper, it's it's flat on the bench.
Technically, the eureka does to a little bit harder to remove,
but when you do remove it it does sit on the bench.
But because it doesn't really have a support, it is easy for it to tip over.
Now, when the hopper is removed on the Rancilio, you've got a micro switch
which will ensure that the grinder does not work, does not activate on the Eureka.
It will work. It will activate.
So if you did have say kids around there the Rancilio is a little bit
safer in saying that there is a screw on the back of the Eureka.
So technically you can walk that hopper in.
But what that means is that it's not easy to remove without tools.
Once you put the hopper back in on both, then looking
at how you dial in the grinder and it taken different approaches on there.
on the Rancilio, you've got a step dial which you can see on either
side and there's an audible notch between steps.
So you can clearly hear when there's been a movement and you can see it.
Now, a lot of people preferring stepless designs like the Eureka,
because you can really dial in
especially for espresso when a small move, it means a lot.
It is easier on the Eureka,
but these steps are so tiny on the Rancilio, there's almost no point.
But for me personally, being able to see the grind adjustment
from the front of the grinder.
And then I found it a little bit easier on the Eureka.
Although there's nothing wrong with the approach that Rancilio took
when it comes to dialing in the time on the screen,
the screens are almost identical.
Yeah, I did find that on the Eureka.
It's a little bit quicker and more intuitive.
The software behind that you got single double.
We can go up and down in time without having to like get into set it.
You can press both buttons and you got grind on demand
and you could hit the two top buttons and lock that screen from kids.
So now nothing gets changed, just a single or the double, but not the time aspect.
So unlocking it again and it really is a simple to use grinder
in saying that the activation is only from the micro switch on the Rancilio
got a little bit more functionality, but it is a little bit more work to dial in
Not that it's hard work.
You've got your double and single and when you hold the double down
and then goes into being able to adjust the time minus or
plus tap it and it locks in on the Eureka just touching it.
So it is a little bit quicker.
One thing it does have, though, you can either operate it from the display
or you can hit both these buttons and let it flash three times.
And now it's operating from the micro switch.
And when that's convenient
is what is operating from the micro switch when you're not activitating the micro switch
you can pause through a grind to allow you to collapse that coffee.
And that is convenient.
You can pause the eureka, but you have to touch the screen.
The workflow in the sense of having more optionality is better on the Rancilio
The workflow in terms of being easier to dial in is better
on the Eureka, but in reality, much of a muchness
when it comes to Portafilter support there reads a slight difference
with the Rancilio it’s rubber coated, so it's a lot quieter
to put in that Portafilter and remove it.
But to remove the support you have to use a tool
and when that makes a difference is when you want to
go from espresso to filter and back generally with the espresso
using a portafilter support but with filter using a coffee catcher.
So it's a little bit more work.
This grinder is really made to do espresso or filter,
even though it can do both, but not really to bounce between the two quickly.
With Eureka, the Portafilter support easily comes out
so it's easy to bounce between Portafilter
and a dosing cup.
But when you want to go back to espresso being grind on demand grinders
with hoppers
you have to be operating the grinder while the blades are getting tighter.
Otherwise you jam the grinders.
So it goes to filter quite easily,
but you have to be operating and effectively of wasting beans.
Or if you have no beans in it, easier to bring it back down to expresso level.
And on the Eureka it tends to be around two and a half turns
between espresso and filter with the Rancilio about 80 notches.
So although these grinders do both,
if you
really wanted to use the same grinder for both espresso and filter regularly
you probably be better using a single dose grinder versus a grind on demand
Now talking grind on demand versus single dose.
Lately, especially on YouTube,
everyone's wanting to have more and more reviews on single dose grinders.
In terms of our sales that we see
the majority of people are buying grind on demand
The more practical grinders for day to day use,
we're finding grind on demand still more popular in terms of sales
because they're more practical to use for the majority of people.
And I feel that Rancilio have really acknowledged
this by their latest grind of being a grind on demand
and if so far stayed out of single dose grinders.
Now I'm not saying a single those aren't right.
There's definitely a market and I do like them, but a few mainstream
grind on demand is a bit easier and we have done a video comparing
grind on demand and single dose grinders in terms of a workflow.
Now lastly on these grinders, the smallest of things, but something that
I personally always like and Rancilio have nailed is cable management.
The power cable comes out of the bottom, so it comes out on the other side
and you can lift it and take it to any side of the grinder you want.
And when this makes a difference,
these guys are going into different environments.
It might be on one side of the machine or the other.
It might be on a countertop that's open, it might be up against the wall.
So different scenarios visually, you want it to look differently
and you always want to kind of hide that cable
because it's not a really attractive feature.
And Rancilio makes it really easy to make that grinder
fit seamlessly and beautifully into your coffee setup.
The eureka is a power coming out of the rear
now, although might not be an issue that if you got up against a wall,
if you did have on a center island, the kitchen might be a little bit harder
to hide that cable.
And to me, coffee's not just about the performance
of The Grinder, it's about the way it makes me feel, the way the setup looks.
So compliments to Rancilio for nailing that as small as it might be.
Now, we've looked at the features and on paper they're similar
there Rancilio wins in some areas, the eureka wins in some others.
Let's make a coffee and find out how they are in the cup.
We've done a full review on both of these machines independently,
which will leave a link below.
But now, because eventually is the latest machine to come out,
we're going to do a coffee out of it for the comparison.
We've gone 20 grams in, so we're going to aim for 40 grams out
with the Rancilio
The coffee is quite balanced and textured, but not much clarity.
With Eureka, the coffee is a little bit different.
It's full bodied and textured with both balanced and clarity.
Although both grinders are slightly different
when it comes to coffee in the cup,
I find it quite difficult to pick which grinder to use visually.
They're both quite similar.
We've gone through it and although the Rancilio has a little bit
of a better hopper Portafilter support, Eureka has a better
and more intuitive touchscreen and a bit easier to dial in the portafilter
support in the eureka comes out easier on the Rancilio
We do have a bit of cable management, so picking between the two is quite
hard and in saying that I feel I could be happy.
Either way.
You wouldn't have one grinder and so I wish I had the other.
But I'm curious to know your thoughts do you prefer the Eureka
Specialita that tried and tested a staple in the coffee community.
Now, or would you go for the Rancilio Stile?
Rancilio as a manufacturer is an OG
the been in the coffee industry for years and built rock solid machines
from the Rancilio Silvia to the grinders Rancilio Rockies.
So I'm curious to know your thoughts.
Eureka or Rancilio Let me know in the comments below.
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