MARCO RUBIO AND IVANKA TRUMP ARE TAKING THE ISSUE OF PAID
FAMILY LEAVE AND CHAMPIONING IT.
THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION
THAT WOULD BASICALLY ALLOW FOR FAMILIES TO TAKE OFF OF WORK IN
ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN AND NOT HAVE TO DEAL
WITH THE FINANCIAL BURDEN OF NOT EARNING ANY MONEY WHILE THEY DO
SO.
WE TALKED ABOUT THEIR UPCOMING PROPOSAL RECENTLY AND
JUST TO FILL YOU IN, JUST TO REMIND YOU AND CATCH YOU UP WITH
WHAT THEY WANT TO DO:
SO JUST TO GET A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC:
YOU SHOULD WATCH OUR PREVIOUS VIDEO ON IT, WE BRING IT DOWN
EVEN FURTHER BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THIS CONVERSATION I WANT TO
FOCUS ON HOW THIS CONSERVATIVE ORGANIZATION, THE WOMEN'S FORUM
OR THE INDEPENDENT WOMEN'S FORUM IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT
WOULD ESSENTIALLY DESTROY SOCIAL SECURITY.
LET ME GIVE YOU THE
DETAILS ON THAT.
IF WE START BORROWING FROM SOCIAL SECURITY
NOT ONLY WOULD WE HAVE TO WAIT EVEN LONGER IN ORDER TO RETIRE,
IT WOULD ALSO FURTHER DEFUND A PROGRAM THAT IS TAKING CARE OF
OUR ELDERLY RIGHT NOW AND ALSO IT WOULD SET A PRECEDENT.
IF
THE GOVERNMENT SAYS, YOU WANT TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF SOCIAL
SECURITY IN ORDER TO PAY FOR THIS AND THAT, MAYBE WE CAN ALSO
USE IT FOR THINGS LIKE FOOD STAMPS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT
PROGRAMS WHICH CONSERVATIVES WOULD LOVE, BUT THERE IS ALSO,
SETTING THE STANDARD IS SOMETHING THAT EXCITES THESE
CONSERVATIVES.
CASE IN POINT, CARRIE LUKAS WHO WROTE FOR THE
FEDERALIST AND TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD SET THIS GREAT
STANDARD AND IT WOULD SOLVE ALL THE SOCIAL SECURITY PROBLEMS
THAT CONSERVATIVES HATE.
IT'S WORSE THAN YOU THOUGHT AND LET ME GIVE YOU MORE CONTEXT.
82% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE PAID FAMILY LEAVE.
ANY 2%.
SO WHAT DO REPUBLICANS WANT TO DO?
THEY WANT TO KILL
TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE.
THEY DON'T ACTUALLY WANT YOU TO HAVE
PAID FAMILY LEAVE BECAUSE THAT MIGHT MEAN TAXES OR SOME
CORPORATIONS CHIP IN, EMPLOYEES WILL ALSO CHIP IN, BUT GOD
FORBID THAT CORPORATIONS SHOULD EVER PAY A DIME BECAUSE
THEY OWN ALL OF THESE POLITICIANS SOME AND GET US
INSTEAD THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU PAY FOR IT.
WHAT PART OF PAID LEAVE IS YOU PAYING FOR.
IF YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT IT IS NOT PAID.
EXACTLY.
YOU ARE PAYING FOR THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY.
EITHER THEY'RE
GOING TO MAKE YOU WAIT LONGER BEFORE HE CAN RETIRE OR THEY ARE
GOING TO CUT THE AMOUNT OF SOCIAL SECURITY YOU'RE GETTING
FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
THAT IS MISSION NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS
DO NOT ACTUALLY DO PAID LEAVE, WHILE PRETENDING TO DO PALY
BECAUSE IT IS ACTUALLY INCREDIBLY POPULAR AND THEN
MISSION NUMBER TWO IS IF AT THE SAME TIME WE COULD DESTROY
SOCIAL SECURITY BY MAKING IT A COMMON THING, HEY, YOU WANT TO
PAY FOR SOMETHING, TAKE IT OUT OF SOCIAL SECURITY.
KEEP ON
TAKING IT OUT UNTIL THEY CAN NEVER RETIRE.
GOD, THEY ARE
LOATH SOME.
THEY DO NOT WORK FOR YOU, THEY WORK FOR THEIR DONORS AND
IT IS A GREAT REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH TO THE TOP.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND BY THE WAY, I WANT TO GIVE SOME
CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERTARIANS CREDIT BECAUSE WHEN THIS
UPCOMING PROPOSAL BY MARCO RUBIO WAS FIRST REPORTED, THERE WERE
CONSERVATIVE AND LIBERTARIAN TO THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD IDEA AND
CRITICIZED IT BECAUSE IT WOULD DESTROY SOCIAL SECURITY BUT
AGAIN, CARRIE LUKAS WHO IS WITH INDEPENDENT WOMEN'S FORUM
DISAGREES.
SHE THINKS IT IS GREAT BECAUSE IT WOULD
FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE THINK ABOUT SOCIAL
SECURITY
AND IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY SET A PRECEDENT THAT WOULD FURTHER
DESTROY IT.
LET ME GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT SHE
WRITES AND THEN I WILL GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HER,
WHERE SHE LIVES IN THE TYPE OF SYSTEM SHE GETS TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF.
SHE WRITES:
SO SHE COMES AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, YOU KNOW, ALL OF
THESE PEOPLE WITH THEIR FRAUDULENT BEHAVIOR TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF THE SOCIAL SAFETY NETS.
SHE COMES AT IT FROM
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS.
BY THE
WAY, SHE HAS FIVE CHILDREN AND SHE LIVES IN GERMANY.
WHERE THEY HAVE ONE OF THE MOST PROGRESSIVE PAID FAMILY
LEAVE PROGRAMS IN THE WORLD SO I WILL GIVE YOU THE DETAILS
ON THAT JUST A MINUTE.
SHE IS TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS IN
TERMS OF PAID FAMILY LEAVE, IT IS NOT.
YOU GET THE MONEY FROM EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES TO PAY FOR
THE PAID FAMILY LEAVE.
IT'S ALL, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET USE TO IT.
WHAT YOU MEAN GET USED TO IT?
A LESSER 12 WEEKS.
THERE IS NO WAY AROUND IT, ONLY WHEN YOU
HAVE A BABY.
WE GOING TO DO, KEEP HAVING A BABY TO GET PAID
FAMILY LEAVE BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN A SOCIALIST COMPANY THAT HAS
PAID FAMILY LEAVE LIKE GERMANY.
MAYBE DOES YOUR EXPERIENCE IN
THE FIRE PROJECTING ONTO OTHERS BUT NO, NOBODY IS HAVING BABIES
TO GET A NONPAID LEAVE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OUT OF THE
RETIREMENT IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO SOCIAL SECURITY, LONG-TERM
CRUTCH, THEY GET THERE, THEY RETIRE AND THEY'RE GOING TO STAY
RETIRED AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THEM WITH THE MONEY
THEY PAID INTO THE SYSTEM.
WHAT CRUTCH?
WE PAY INTO MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY.
WHAT CRUTCH?
THEY
HATE ANYTHING THAT HELPS ACTUAL CITIZENS.
SHE GOES FURTHER AND JUST GET A LOAD OF THE ASSUMPTION THAT
SHE MAKES HERE WHICH I WOULD ARGUE IS NOT AN ACCURATE
ASSUMPTION.
SHE SAYS:
SHE'S TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ELDERLY.
SHE IS SAYING THEY WOULD RATHER WORK LONGER AND POSTPONE
RETIREMENT.
BASED ON WHAT EVIDENCE?
BASED ON WHAT DATA?
THEY HAVE AN AMAZING SOCIAL SAFETY NET IN GERMANY.
IN
THE COMFORT OF THAT SHE IS TELLING US ABOUT GO BACK TO THE
MINES.
IF WE PREFER TO WORK LONGER, YOU KNOW WHAT WE COULD
DO QUESTION MARK WE COULD WORK LONGER, NOBODY IS STOPPING US SO
THERE IS A REALLY EASY WAY TO SEE IF WE PREFER THAT SOME
PEOPLE DO.
THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
YOU ARE SAYING YOU
MUST WORK LONGER EVEN THOUGH YOU PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY YOUR
WHOLE LIFE, I'M NOT GOING TO LET YOU RETIRE.
I'M GOING TO TAKE
THAT MONEY AND USE A BROTHER THINGS.
BY THE WAY, THEY
ALREADY SPENT THE SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY TO SPEND ON TAX
CUTS FOR THE RIGHTS, LAWYERS, DEFENSE CONTRACTORS, OIL
SUBSIDIES AND IF YOU EVER WATCH BATTED TELL THE MOVIE ABOUT US,
THERE IS A SCENE WHEN I'M ON MSNBC YELLING AT A FORMER
REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN AND HE IS SAYING WE ALREADY SPENT IT.
THEY ARE THE WORST.
IT GETS WORSE.
SHE SAYS:
UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE IS SAYING THERE.
CONSERVATIVES
NOTORIOUSLY WANT TO POSTPONE THE RETIREMENT AGE AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE.
THAT THE BAY COMES UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND IT IS
SO INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING.
I AM 65, THAT IS TOO EARLY FOR
RETIREMENT.
LET'S MOVE IT TO 67, 67 1/2, 68 AND SO BY THE
TIME MY
GENERATION IS READY TO RETIRE, WHO KNOWS WHAT IS RETIREMENT IS
GOING TO, WHAT AGE THEY ARE GOING TO DECIDE RETIREMENT IS
ACCEPTABLE?
SHE CONTINUES
TO SAY:
WE ALL KNOW HOW SOCIAL SECURITY WORKS.
I PAY INTO IT BUT THAT
GOES TO PAYING FOR ELDERLY PEOPLE.
THAT WAS THE POINT UP
UNDER THIS SYSTEM IT WOULD BE LIKE WAY OF OUR INDIVIDUAL
ACCOUNTS AND WE BORROW FROM BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU ARE MAKING A
LOT OF MONEY?
WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE UNEMPLOYED?
DOES THAT
MEAN ONCE YOU HIT RETIREMENT AGE WE'RE JUST GOING TO LET YOU LIVE
ON THE STREETS?
I DON'T KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IS THE KIND OF
SYSTEM SHE IS IN FAVOR OF.
NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT GERMANY WHICH
AGAIN IS THE COUNTRY THAT SHE LIVES IN AND THEY HAVE
SIGNIFICANT SAFETY NETS THERE.
SO FOR INSTANCE, WHEN IT COMES
TO PAID FAMILY LEAVE, THERE ARE BENEFITS TO START TAKING IN
BEFORE THE BABY IS EVEN BORN.
IN FACT: INDIVIDUALS IN GERMANY
GET SIX WEEKS OF PAID LEAVE PRIOR TO THE BABY BEING BORED.
AFTER THE BABY IS BORN THEY GET EIGHT WEEKS.
THAT IS
GUARANTEED.
SO IT KIND OF TAPERS OFF DEPENDING ON HOW LONG
YOU DECIDE TO TAKE THAT FAMILY LEAVE BUT THINK ABOUT THAT.
YOU
COULD TAKE UP TO THREE YEARS OF PAID FAMILY LEAVE.
IT DOESN'T
MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR FULL SALARY BUT YOU ARE GOING TO
GET US TO GET A MATTER MONEY SO YOU CAN BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF
YOUR CHILD AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU WILL BE READY TO GO BACK TO
WORK AND BY THE WAY, ONE OTHER THING.
WE HAVE AN AGING
POPULATION IN THE US.
IT IS NOT AS DISASTROUS AS IT IS IN JAPAN
RIGHT NOW BUT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT CONSERVATIVES ARE WORRIED
ABOUT IS THAT LESS PEOPLE ARE HAVING CHILDREN.
WHY WOULD
PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE IN MY GENERATION WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN
IF WE LIVE IN THE TYPE OF COUNTRY THAT HAS NO INTEREST IN
SUPPORTING US AND MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR A CIR…'S OUR KIDS
AND THEN GO BACK TO WORK.
IS PRETTY EASY FOR HER TO SAY YOU SHOULDN'T GET PAID FAMILY
LEAVE UNLESS WE TAKE IT OUT OF YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY BECAUSE BY
GERMAN LAW, SHE MIGHT HAVE HAD 15 YEARS OF PAID FAMILY LEAVE.
THE HYPOCRISY IS UNREAL.
I DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG SHE'S LIVED IN
GERMANY, BUT IT IS VERY EASY TO SAY THAT OUT OF THE COMFORT OF A
SOCIALIST COUNTRY.
BY THE WAY, USUALLY.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE
SOCIALISM OR THAT SOCIAL SAFETY NET THAT THEY HAVEN'T GERMANY,
I'M BACK HERE.
I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO BE IN DISBELIEF BUT DO
YOU KNOW THAT THE UNITED STATES IS THE ONLY INDUSTRIALIZED
NATION THAT OFFERS NO PAID TIME OFF FOR NEW MOTHERS.
SO
THEORETICALLY, LOOK, MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY LIVE
PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.
THAT MEANS YOU HAVE THE BABY, YOU
HAVE TO SHOW UP TO WORK THE NEXT DAY.
THE BARBARITY OF THAT FOR
THE REST OF THE WORLD IS INCOMPREHENSIBLE.
DO YOU KNOW
THAT IN 1993, WE FORCE PAST THE FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE ACT.
THAT ALLOWED FOR 12 WEEKS OF UNPAID LEAVE.
BEFORE 93, IF YOU
TOOK A DAY OFF BECAUSE YOU HAD A BABY THEY COULD FIRE YOU.
OH,
YOU HAD A BABY THAT'S NICE, YOU WERE FIRED.
BACK TO THE MINDS.
IF YOU ARE NOT WORKING IN THE COAL MINES, YOU ARE FIRED.
A
BABY, I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR BABY.
YOU ARE GONE BECAUSE YOU
ARE COSTING ME A NICKEL A PROFIT.
NOW YOU HAVE TO ALLOW
FOR 12 WEEKS BUT IT IS ALL UNPAID.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU
ARE GOING TO SURVIVE YOUR KID IS GOING TO SURVIVE.
I DO NOT
CARE.
THAT IS WHAT THE US GOVERNMENT SAYS ABOUT IT.
BOOTSTRAPS,
NOW WHAT WE PROPOSE AND IT HAS
82% POPULARITY IN THE COUNTRY BECAUSE WE ARE ALL SICK OF
GETTING CRUSHED, CAN WE HAVE PAID FAMILY LEAVE?
WELL, MARCO
RUBIO AND IVANKA TRUMP HAS HAVE A SPECIAL LITTLE TRICK FOR YOU.
LET ME TAKE YOUR ENERGY AROUND THE ISSUE AND USE IT AGAINST YOU
AND GIVE YOU A TERRIBLE PROPOSAL WHERE WE DON'T ACTUALLY PAY FOR
IT AND WE RUIN SOCIAL SECURITY.
LOOK, DONALD TRUMP IS A MONSTER.
I GET IT, TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.
HIS DAUGHTER WHO GETS
CREDIT FOR BEING MODERATE IS NO SUCH THING.
SHE IS ALSO ALONG
THE SAME LINES BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, ESTABLISHMENT
REPUBLICANS ARE OKAY, IT IS JUST DONALD TRUMP.
YOU HEAR AND
CABLE NEWS ALL THE TIME.
NO, ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS LIKE
MARCO RUBIO ARE ALSO MONSTERS.
THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN SOCIAL
SECURITY ARE PAID FAMILY LEAVE AND HE IS GETTING CREDIT ON TV
EVERY DAY.
MARCO RUBIO'S ARE PAID FAMILY LEAVE.
IS A TRICK
BUT NOBODY ON TV HAS TWO BRAIN CELLS TO RUB TOGETHER THEY DON'T
CARE THAT THEY ARE PART OF THE CORRUPTION.
THE WAY, ONCE WE
GET READ OF DONALD WE WILL HAVE A GOOD REPUBLICAN LIKE MARCO
RUBIO AND HE WILL MORE EFFECTIVELY STEAL
FROM YOU.