invitation as they are one of the many films in two thousand nine uh... about
rugby
and it's sort of
the documentary in sort of how you play rugby what the rules are and how the
most dramatic moment of rugby occurs when the referee does this
nop
in vegas is pleased with the latest film about uh... nelson mandela
and the captain of the uh... rugby team a
uh... afrikaner
uh... andy kaplan of the south african rugby team
and uh... it's the story is sort of uh... add by the year after mandela's in
office
uh... you know she sort of reaching out to these his former enemies his captors
his jailers does a captain for twenty seven years on robin island locked up
uh... reaching out to them in an effort to bring people together rather than
punish them back o'connor's love the rational rugby team
of more than anything and so he
decides as he did with many things to reach out and include the afrikaners is
government he decides not to disband the team and rename it
but to embrace it
and as that celebrated host the world cup in nineteen ninety five feet we can
get blacks and whites to unite
for the uh... the safra national team which uh...
matt damon as the captain and it is that true story of uh... how that team do
brought the country ca
whites let me start on this one because look at visit there
movie that i should absolutely love
it has nelson mandela that who i think is the greatest human being alive right
now their ascetic
uh... aid has rugby and i played rugby at one of the car so i think you uh...
furthermore it let me jump in their correct if not i think that were left
behind in the first shocking moments net net that we have got to start uh... and
and i love sports movies you know i i love miracle
that you know the miracle on ice
i love victory with michael caine the sylvester stallone adobe
these rule
equipment according pay lay there in the movie night or day
so this will be laws
need for me idaho appalling that this number k could be much of it
so it gets i really liked the movie
do you have something and it was missing something it was like
it was just x_y_z_ by wandering
not all i wanted
but they wanted something a little different
and that the and well like even though i really liked it
he was always a little too busy
you know i'm sorry you were still that would give me you know i i
academy where you're coming on with their i'd feel like
if it wasn't a story about the while political if you haven't got so much
into the mac david character into
ike's desire is to help the captain of the south african panda if they hadn't
talked so much and dealt so much with the captain of that team
i think that you'd probably be a little bit
happier about that because what eastwood does as a director and what the script
really i'd feel like you spent a lot of time
getting inside of mandela's it's very clear why he's doing what he's doing
really understand and you really feel party to his wisdom when he explains why
he's gonna leave that team in place because it because it is so important to
the afrikaners
it makes sense but i don't how do you feel like me ever see
never get inside the head on that day mister from the captain you fight i
kinda feel like may go to the captain and they say
you know warm order for you know going down does that happen since
i want your team to win the world cup antonio's
okay yeah uh... as you know i thought there was a lot of a lot of that a lot
of just here's what happened next and then this afternoon the satin
and we lost an opportunity in there and by the way his name is france while
perhaps eleven sure incorrectly that that our park
but don't
you know i did some reading uh... on him
afterwards and
he was a guy who had
supported apartheid because that's what everybody did if you are afrikaner he
said he never thought about it
use of nelson mandela's imprisoning the terrorist dangers abit of course is
impressed
he never thought about it didn't matter
or and we had a really good moment early on in the film at the very beginning
that phil when that will be coach that
writers today that there is a different is that in a country does the dogs they
let that terrorist right out of prison but we never had that serve relate to
matt damon was interesting because the captain he gets invited to kill me with
mandela mandela tells him
but it was you when the world copper sexually that so many words and and and
because it'll help bring the country gather in
we don't know who that guy was that was given this rather also responsibility
and uh...
you know when you learn more of the real story
of which they did not deviate much at all the stories
almost one hundred percent true
the real story i think if is better
uh... because it's more complicated and i think what you're getting that i think
what we all of a problem with is that
this is an incredibly complicated decision by mandela
and it had a disney f quality that is if you don't know whenever you get into a
drive up our via network expected output aged even is one of the code of if it's
there was some all
with that
alternative
uh... constantly and we never saw that backdrop
yet you guys are absolutely right because you don't see the transformation
inactive you'll see him from going from whatever he was because you don't know
what he was
to what he became the line to see how he inspired a t
note made up my other than brought to bear cataract you know what i was at the
beginning of before even talking and i feel like you never get the other half
of the story right mandela
serves as the avatar of sorts for
the african experience in that country at
he comes along you can really is
you know the best example he says over and over again we have to be the best
example i've i've bought mark
with are former
captors formally have to be better than we other people ought to be better than
they can be and we have to better track and we can discuss the magnanimity that
is
astounded
attitude especially considering what he's gone through
not really ever see infectious eat more with
uh... prefer father
a little bit about him turning the corner of mostly right right you don't
ever see
i feel like
well fitted actually
i feel like you've seen more of the presidential guards
you know it does that really nice moment where financed and it's kinda funny they
could've played for comedy
the when the placards are complaining about not having an affair
you know them their reinforcements aren't the former white presidential
ghar and
the blackout flip out
there's a bond that can't you know i dislike relative because that you never
saw those white guys crushing the skulls of the every has before such
you don't know why there for the antenna was deployed there on reasonable they
know you know that is true apart it does not think
that i could you start
but i feel like those guys before but you get to see more of them can we learn
more about that chief white guard
right by the national protection there their version the secret service in this
movie
the duvall acted like he feel like they were more about working with
the blacks you feel like they were more about
the end of apartheid than the rugby team ever done you know uh...
i wanted this one is unconscionable ike going in like these this is great as
well uses a swatch movies all the time i see the trailers right so go in the
movie i know eighty percent what's gonna happen who's in a lot a lot again in the
movie elect all clearly for director depicted now which of course i shouldn't
admit to you but i didn't know that god in it
but you know as soon as i thought that he set the record
uh... at this moment
even though i love clint eastwood's
past work
his recent stuff not so much of it leads to this point
public all that makes sense because i felt like
he rushed to the book
and maybe on the on thirty useful because you know he has the reputation
of
one take let's go with united right
and maybe that doesn't relate to how he directs a movie overall you know and how
he puts it together but it fell to me like you think i got i think i what i
can see we've got a lot so i really disagree uh... disagree on your analysis
of his recent movies because i think three of his most recent movies three of
the best movies through the best movies of the decade
in of the best analyzed breathing western nine might be
of the thirty or forty
i don't know i think since he was he was one of the stories here
uh... ait letters
you know i think aesthetic you know i'm being out there there because i
and for your grand jury
honestly that was probably the last month's rent three and i thought was a
bit there's a great carl really in the rate for all nations she began to take
flat-out great film
i think anyway and uh... and and and then
that then obviously and you know and and million-dollar baby was a terrific fell
those or small movies even letters from iwo jima was about world war two was a
small movie
this i don't think that's in the way you're saying about eastwood but is this
was not a small movie those word like little movies the told littles moving
stories leslie rather big movie that told that was at that date told the
story but it was not idly in emotional story
gardellin well i
i thought what he rushed through but maybe i'm putting things into it that
that you know that aren't there but that's the says i came away with it
but i don't want to mislead people the stories was actually really like them
i guess which was a little better i i wanted to be great
but it didn't it does he still gives you mandela and it still gives you a great
sense of what happened there it is very accurate what happened
if there's still the rar rock thing that i enjoy so in and out of it and i
dividend eight point now i mean i think
the sawdust movie night
they give you a little holiday movies are going to go visit say we
you just said about the movie
and give it a age i can and i have this about expectations
has my expectations i was hoping for a night right
and i told him to be like a really liked it you're right it was you want to go
back and look at this
at least off with losing something diverted eight i mean you can't go to
the rescue could put a bullet in the police are coming over after but uh...
bright you know and i don't think that that the rating is consistent with what
you know i'd like it better than the road are like it better than visible
would you like it marginally
generale give us some point zero in the supply given a point out this website
white it i have anything yet shocked the world
but but there are some at what you've
uh... act
i would be does no one can i think i'd probably have to give it away
uh... eight point five
all sound like a better i don't know
as much as i thought that
it was a missed opportunity to not get more inside they had of
the rugby captain
that means there is no one friend
eight point five weeks repeat britain's will be there it no watch
you guys are not the intended effect cannot making that this was a fantastic
hai
you know i don't sell my guide and it was a good movie i think this is a great
into factually wannabes was better movies than last
years i think he takes
if only because he manages to show a very human side of endow right for me
it's very easy to treatment now as this guy like icon
and another thing i like the little things like thank you know women who
work for identity
united florida becker on with your idea i think he does in fact for a job there
and i a promise lee as much as i would like to see a little bit more
from activity character
to me that's a minor issue i think them movie from being able to
take a story where if you know your history you know how inept
right you know if you know if you know your sports history you know how it
happens no one knows how to everything and everyone i'm so sorry
don't tell me what is knowing that there was a their favorite soap and would you
think that i mean it's a standard boilerplate the sports movie that has a
good performance of uh... nicely nuance performance of uh... morgan freeman is
nelson mandela to fix
while located
i try to figure out what that means they have nothing to do that is like a fixer
fifty a b_-minus
i don't know i know i know you whatever it's like you know with an average forts
movie tonight
right by your apartment in league with miracle
but i would say at the ballot god identify here
uh... and loved without a doubt that you know where you from going on in the
middle of may to get into that