HERE FOR, MARIA BARTIROMO, SHE
SAT DOWN FOR AN INTERVIEW WITH
ORACLE CO-FOUNDER LARRY ELLISON.
IN PART TWO, HE TOUCHES ON HIS
PHILANTHROPIC EFFORTS, CHINA'S
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THEFT AND
THE STATE OF POLITICS IN
AMERICA.
MARIA: YOU MENTIONED DEMOCRATS
AND REPUBLICANS.
LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.
YOU ARE A BIG DONOR.
YOU WERE A DONOR DURING THE 2016
ELECTION.
YOU SUPPORTED MARCO RUBIO.
HOW IS PRESIDENT TRUMP DOING?
>> WELL, I THINK THE ECONOMY'S
DOING GREAT.
SO I WAS BILL CLINTON'S SECOND
LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR WHEN HE RAN
FOR OFFICE.
I'M NEITHER A DEMOCRAT NOR A
REPUBLICAN.
I TEND TO BE IN THE MIDDLE WHICH
MEANS VERY LONELY.
THE COUNTRY'S HAS BECOME VERY
POLARIZED.
MARIA: I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALL
HANGING OUT IN THE MIDDLE.
VERY FEW OF US HAVE MONOLITHIC
VIEW THAT'S YOU'RE ALL
REPUBLICAN, EVERYTHING IN YOUR
LIFE OR ALL DEMOCRAT, EVERYTHING
IN YOUR LIFE.
>> I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT
ARE VERY PASSIONATE ON THE LEFT
AND PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY
PASSIONATE ON THE RIGHT.
I TEND TO BE IN THE
DISPASSIONATE MIDDLE, THE
BORING, DISPASSIONATE MIDDLE.
I AM VERY CLOSE FRIENDS WITH
TONY BLAIR, BILL CLINTON, THAT
WAS CALLED THE THIRD WAY BACK
THEN.
BILL CLINTON WAS A CENTERIST.
TONY BLAIR IS A
TONY BLAIR IS CENTERIST.
MARCO RUBIO IS A CENTERIST.
MITT ROMNEY IS A CENTERIST.
THOSE ARE MY POLITICS.
IN TERMS OF ASSESSING THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION, I THINK THERE'S
STYLE AND THEN THERE'S SUBSTANCE
AND I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT
ABOUT STYLE.
BUT I'M VERY HAPPY THAT THE
UNITED STATES ECONOMY IS DOING
WELL.
I'M VERY HAPPY WE'RE AT RECORD
LOW UNEMPLOYMENT RATES.
THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS
THAT HAVE HAPPENED.
PEOPLE WANT TO ASSIGN SOME OF
THE CREDIT TO BARACK OBAMA,
DONALD TRUMP, THAT'S THEIR --
EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN OPINION.
I JUST THINK IT'S WONDERFUL TO
SEE THE U.S. COMPLY GROWING
AGAIN OVER 4%.
I THINK OUR BIG COMPETITOR IS
CHINA AND THAT IF WE LET CHINA'S
ECONOMY PASS US UP, IF WE LET
CHINA DEVELOP -- PRODUCE MORE
ENGINEERS THAN WE DO, IF WE LET
CHINA'S TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES
BEAT OUR TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES,
IT WON'T BE LONG THAT OUR
MILITARY IS BEHIND
TECHNOLOGICALLY ALSO.
OUR ECONOMY'S BEHIND
TECHNOLOGICALLY.
WE HAVE A SERIOUS COMPETITION
GOING ON WITH CHINA.
I'M ON TEAM USA.
I WOULD LIKE US TO BE
SUCCESSFUL.
I'D LIKE US TO DEVELOP AND
PROTECT OUR TECHNOLOGIES.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
I THINK WE HAVE TO INVEST IN OUR
ECONOMY AND GROW OUR ECONOMY SO
WE CAN COMPETE WITH THE FIRST
SERIOUS THREAT, IF YOU WILL,
FIRST SERIOUS COMPETITOR HE
WE'VE HAD SINCE THE 1930s.
MARIA: I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.
CHINA WON'T ADMIT THEY'VE BEEN
STEALING OUR IP FOR DECADES.
WE'VE GOT TO GET THEM TO ADMIT
IT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO CHANGE
THEIR BEHAVIOR.
IT'S GOOD THAT THIS
ADMINISTRATION PUSHED BACK ON
CHINA.
>> I THINK THE APPROPRIATION OF
OUR IP IS A HUGE ADVANTAGE FOR
THEM.
THEY GOT ALL OF OUR IP AND THEIR
OWN IP AND THERE'S SOME VERY
TALENTED ENGINEERS IN CHINA.
THEY'RE PRODUCING A LOT OF THEM.
WE'VE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF
PROTECTING OUR IP.
MARIA: YESTERDAY I ASKED MARK
ABOUT THE DOD CONTRACT.
ORACLE IS COMPETING FOR BUSINESS
WITH THE PENTAGON.
AMAZON WANTS IT TOO.
GOOGLE WALKS AWAY FROM THE
BUSINESS WITH THE DOD AND, YET,
THEY ARE ALL-IN ON GOING INTO
CHINA AND HAVING THEIR SEARCH
ENGINE
SEGINE
SEARNE
SEARCHENGINE CENCORED.
YOUR REACTION.
>> HERE, JEFF BEZOS AND I AGREE.
I THINK U.S. TECH COMPANIES WHO
SAY WE WILL NOT SUPPORT THE U.S.
MILITARY, YOU KNOW, WE WILL NOT
WORK ON ANY TECHNOLOGY THAT
HELPS OUR MILITARY, BUT YET GOES
INTO CHINA AND FACILITATES THE
CHINESE GOVERNMENT SURVEILLING
THEIR PEOPLE IS PRETTY SHOCKING.
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT
THE U.S. TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES
SUPPORT OUR COUNTRY, OUR
GOVERNMENT.
WE ARE A DEMOCRACY.
IF WE DON'T LIKE OUR LEADERS, WE
CAN THROW THEM OUT.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE LEADERS IN
CHINA, YOU CAN FILL IN THE
BLANK, YOU KNOW.
MARIA: YOU'RE DEALING WITH A
DICTATOR FOR LIFE.
>> YES, XI IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
LEADER IN CHINA SINCE MAU.
HE'S NOW BEEN ELEVATED TO THAT
LEVEL.
AND I DON'T SEE HOW A COMPANY
LIKE GOOGLE CAN SAY OKAY, WE'RE
GOING TO AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE
BUSINESS IN CHINA AND STAY AWAY
FROM DOING ANYTHING WITH OUR
U.S. MILITARY.
I THINK IT'S A TERRIBLE
MISCALCULATION.
I MEAN, OUR DEMOCRACY AND THE
DEMOCRATIC SYSTEMS ARE IN
COMPETITION NOW WITH
COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST SYSTEMS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR