Ok, these were drawn in the...
the Trump campaign.
'Trump, do the white thing'.
Black people - they think they have a bad deal.
They think the police somehow
discriminate against them?
Because of their innate behaviour?
Their propensity for violence against white people?
Do you think African Americans have an innate propensity to violence?
Of course, there's...
There's no question about it.
Compared to whites.
How does it feel?
I don't like it - I just don't like it.
You know - I just
I just don't agree with -
Even on diversity, huh?
Well, I think diversity is a brilliant thing.
I think diversity is great.
Diversity is you and me in this truck.
This is diversity.
So, you're not having such a terrible time, are you?
No, I'm having a good time at the moment.
You kind of like me, don't you?
In a way.
I mean, I think we do a good job of...
putting up with the situation.
They make you feel super - like you've been following the wrong path your whole life.
Put the ideology that they live by...
the 'history of your race'.
I had to...
go up to that person and get 'em.
I got them with probably about a 16-inch piece of steel...
17 times.
Got them in the chest and
and throughout the neck and shoulder.
They pump your head up.
They make you feel like what you're doing is...
noble.
And so it's a complete brainwashing system.
People have to understand you've got to -
you spill blood to get into these organisations.
Same thing with getting out.
You know...
it's 'blood in blood out'.
I was 21.
Had you been in prison by that point?
I'd just got out my first time.
What was the first time?
A drive-by shooting.
I had so much anger built in me.
Had so much hate inside me for -
it didn't matter who you were.
It was more of - I hated myself.
I think it has to go back with, like -
childhood, because I was in foster care my whole life.
All I ever wanted was...
was my parents.
So, a lot of people that
go into any kind of organisation where there is white supremacy
or a different gang and stuff,
a lot of them are broken individuals.
They're looking for a sense of belonging.
I have a price to pay over my head.
It doesn't have to be the people I ran with.
It could be any kind of white supremacist come after me.
That's just the way it is.
If the people you used to hang out with-
if one of them came in
right now
and saw this
what would they do?
You really want to know?
I want to know really - yeah.
They would kill you.
I don't have to look at that no more.