KENNEDY: WELCOME BACK.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU IN NEW YORK
CITY.
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S NOMINEE TO RUN
THE CIA SAYS THE U.S. SHOULD
NEVER HAVE CONDUCTED ITS
ENHANCED INTERROGATION PROGRAM
AND BECAUSE OF THAT IT LOOKS
LIKE GINA HASPEL WILL HAVE
ENOUGH VOTES TO WIN
CONFIRMATION.
WHAT A POLITICIAN.
SHE WROTE A LET TORE THE TOP
DEMOCRAT ON THE COMMITTEE SAYING
THAT AFTER 9/11 THE AGENCY WAS
TOO HARSH ON TERROR SUSPECTS.
AFTER GETTING THE LETTER,
SENATOR WARNER SAYS HE WILL NOW
VOTE FOR HASPEL.
SO DID THE DEMOCRAT SENATORS
HEIDI HIGH
VOIDI HIGH
VOTEI HIGH
VOTE FHIGH
VOTE FORGH
VOTE FOR THE CAREER SPY.
WHY IS HASPEL SO APOLOGETIC AND
SHE IS REALLY THE RIGHT CHOICE
TO RUN THE AGENCY?
LET ME BRING IN THOMAS MASSEY.
WELCOME BACK TO THE SHOW,
CONGRESSMAN.
>> THANK YOU, KENNEDY.
I READ THAT LETTER THAT SHE
WROTE TO SENATOR MARK WARNER AND
TO QUOTE JAMES CLAPPER WHEN WE
WAS CAUGHT LYING TO CONGRESS A
FEW YEARS AGO, I THINK SHE'S
SAYING THE LEAST TRUTHFUL
THING -- THE LEAST UNTRUTHFUL
THING SHE IS THINK OF AT THE
TIME.
SHE'S JUST SAYING WHAT SHE CAN
TO GET HER NOMINATION.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
YES, SHE IS PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
NOMINEE, BUT LOOK, THE WHOLE
OBAMA DEEP STATE HAS CIRCLED THE
WAGON TO PROTECT HER AND TO
ENDORSE HER.
BRENNAN HAS ENDORSED HER, LEON
PANETTA, JAMES CLAPPER HAS
ENDORSED HER.
THESE ARE ALL OBAMA APPOINTEES
TO OVERSEE HIS DEEP STATE AND
THEY'RE ALL FOR HER.
SHOULD THAN GIVE SOMEBODY A
LITTLE PAUSE.
KENNEDY: AND PANETTA IS A
CLINTONITE.
TWO OF THE ISSUES THAT
REPUBLICANS HAVE WITH THOSE WHO
HAVE CONTESTED HER NOMINATION IS
THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE
RELITIGATING, YOU KNOW, THESE
TORTURE PRACTICES THAT HAPPENED,
YOU KNOW, 16 YEARS AGO.
AND I DISAGREE WITH THAT.
BECAUSE I THINK THE MENTALITY
THAT PREVAILED THEN COULD EASILY
TAKE HOLD NOW IF GOD FORBID WE
WERE IN ANOTHER SITUATION LIKE
THAT.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO
HAVE AN ISSUE WITH YOUR PERSONAL
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IDEOLOGY THAT WOULD PREVENT YOU
FOR VOTING FOR SOMEONE LIKE GINA
HASPEL.
>> I DON'T GET TO VOTE BUT MY
SENATOR DOES AND HE'S OPPOSING
HER.
TO YOUR POINT, IS A LITTLE BIT
OF TORTURE OKAY?
NO, I DON'T THINK A LITTLE BIT
OF TORTURE IS OKAY.
WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE
WHO SUPPORT HER SAYING WE
SHOULDN'T RELITIGATE THIS, WE
SHOULD ALWAYS RELITIGATE THIS.
KENNEDY: I AGREE.
>> THIS MAKES OUR SOLDIERS LESS
SAFE OVERSEAS WHEN THEY GET
CAUGHT.
THE UNITED STATES SETS THE
STANDARD FOR MORAL BEHAVIOR OR
WE SHOULD AND WE HAVE REALLY
LOWERED THE STANDARD.
KENNEDY: IF YOU WERE A SENATOR
WHEN JOHN BREAN
WHEN JOHN BRENNAN WAS CONFIRMED
TO HEAD THE CIA, WOULD YOU HAVE
VOTED FOR HIM?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO THINK I
WOULDN'T HAVE.
BUT I CAN'T PUT MYSELF IN THEIR
PLACE.
BUT TO THOSE FOLKS IN KENTUCKY
WHO ARE UPSET WITH RAND PAUL FOR
OPPOSED GINA PASS
OPPOSED GINA HASS
OPPOSED GINA HAS PAL
OPPOSED GINA HASPEAL
OPPOSED GINA HASPELL
OPPOSED GINA HASPEL AT THIS
TIME, THE VOTE TO CON FOIRM
COMEY WAS 9-1.
WHO WAS THE ONE SENATOR WHO
IT WAS SENATOR RAND PAUL.
TRUST HIM ON THIS AND GIVE HIM A
LITTLE CREDIT FOR THAT.
KENNEDY: AND I THINK HE'S
EXPLAINED HIS POSITION WELL AS
OPPOSE DZ TO
OPPOSEDDZ TO
OPPOSED T TO
OPPOSED TOTO
OPPOSED TO SOME DEMOCRATS WHO
HAVE TALKED THEMSELVES INTO
VOTING FOR HER.
IT SEEMS LIKE MANY OF THEM HAD
PRINCIPLES WHEN THEY WERE
QUESTIONING HER BUT THEY SEEM TO
HAVE CONVENIENTLY ABANDONED
THEM.
AND I THINK BERNIE SANDERS DID A
HORRIBLE JOB OF EXPLAIN WHY HE
VOTED FOR BRENNAN BUT CANNOT
VOTE FOR HASPEL.
THERE IS SO MUCH INCONSISTENCY
WITHIN THE SENATE.
>> EXACTLY.
AND LOOK, SHE'S ALSO BEEN NAMED
AS SOMEBODY WHO PROBABLY HELPED
DESTROY THE VIDEOTAPES OF THOSE
INTERROGATIONS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING HER
IN CHARGE OF THE MOST SECRETIVE
AGENCY OF THE U.S. FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
SHE'S GOING TO BE THE ONE
OVERSEEING THEIR BEHAVIOR.
IF SHE CEASE RESPONSIBLE FOR
DESTROYING EVIDENCE, HOW MUCH
CAN WE TRUST HER THAT SHE'S
GOING TO BE TRUTHFUL TO CONGRESS
ABOUT HER OVERSIGHT.
THERE'S ANOTHER THING THAT GIVES
ME A LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE.
SHE'S A 30-PLUS-YEAR CAREER
EMPLOYEE OF THE CIA.
TYPICALLY -- IN FACT TYPICALLY,
YOU GET SOMEBODY FROM OUTSIDE OF
THE ORGANIZATION TO OVERSEE IT
AS A POLITICAL APPOINTEE.
I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE
TAKING SOMEBODY FROM THE DEEP
STATE AND MAKING THEM THE PERSON
WHO OVERSEES THAT VERY
DEPARTMENT.
KENNEDY: YES, ESPECIALLY SOMEONE
WHO INTIMATELY KNOWS THOSE SPY
TOOLS INSIDE AND OUT AND HELPED
DEVELOP SO MANY PROGRAMS THAT
HAVE BEEN TURNED
UNCONSTITUTIONALLY ON
UNSUSPECTING AMERICANS.
IT'S SCARY TO THINK WHAT SOMEONE
LIKE THAT WHO KNOWS HOW TO COVER
THEIR TRACKS WILL DO WITH THE
AGENCY REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY