turns out that the organizer behind the whole stop the steal
effort has turned on people like Charlie Kirk.
I'm talking about Ali Alexander here.
He had to testify before the January 6th Committee investigating what
transpired in the nation's capital on January 6th.
This is when of course Trump supporters decided to storm the Capitol in their
effort to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.
Now, some interesting things happen.
Transcripts from his closed door deposition with the January 6th
committee show that alexander blamed Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA for
financing the travel of writers from a number of points across the country to DC.
Where they of course broke into the capitol and did what they did.
Now, here's what he said in his sworn deposition.
I think it was my understanding that it was ran through Turning Point USA.
Now, he denied any involvement except for
the fact that Turning Point USA was using his popular stop the steal branding.
And Committee Representative asked him at one point.
It sounds like you're saying that to the extent that busses were paid for
with the exception of one possible one that you may have had for stop the steal.
Your involvement in the busses was basically to advertise turning points
offering of the bus and Ali Alexander responded, yes, to that question.
Now, alexander was not done yet later in an interview with the Daily Beast.
He took another shot at Charlie Kirk and his facial features saying,
I wonder how Charlie Kirk escaped any scrutiny when he made us
bus in all those people on his funded busses.
Fortunately, he's losing donors and
popularity while gaining face weight, disgusting.
>> That's him earlier.
>> That is, that is earlier.
>> [LAUGH] >> Anyway, now, before I go to you Ben,
Ali Alexander is wrong, actually.
When he says that, I just don't get how Charlie Kirk escaped all the scrutiny.
He didn't, because there was one person who brought this up to
Charlie Kirk to his face, let's watch.
>> Where was I on January 6th?
>> You were doing a podcast in which you said,
I'm getting 500 emails a minute of people saying, we want civil war and
imagining that- >> [CROSSTALK]
>> And you also sent busloads
of people to the capital.
>> So what's the final question you have here?
>> That day that you ginned up.
>> I ginned up nothing, you're the only one that got arrested.
>> You said you were sending patriots to fight.
[CROSSTALK] You said patriots to fight and you said they want a civil war.
If you're not responsible for what happened on Jan 6th,is that because
unintended consequences happened that you didn't anticipate?
Kind of like mothers that have an unintended pregnancy,
they didn't anticipate.
So if you wanna be cut some slack for Jan 6th,
maybe you could cut women some slack to unintendedly get pregnant.
That sound like a deal?
>> Thank you, you are the domestic terrorist.
>> I was arrested for peacefully protesting my friend.
>> Thank you.
>> He called you a domestic terrorist.
>> He did indeed.
And then I replied to cut earlier when I said,
you ginned up an interaction against our country as he stormed off of his own set.
So, I was bothered by the fact that he escaped a lot of scrutiny
from the mainstream media and in my research for the debate I learned this.
That was somehow burry that he sent like 80 busses.
I don't know the exact number, but I think it was 80 and
is largely responsible for what happened in our country and this terrible day.
And I wanted to make sure that I called him out, and you know you win
an interaction when somebody leaves their own studio and leaves me alone.
It became the Ben Glebe debate show.
>> Well, I mean you're a domestic terrorist obviously.
I mean you're not the one who bust in a bunch of people who rioted at the nation's
capital because they didn't like the results of the presidential election.
But you are a domestic terrorist- >> He just pulled the exact move that
school children do when they don't have a response.
They go, you are.
>> Yeah, you're stupid.
[LAUGH] Exactly right.
>> Yeah, that was amazing, that was incredible.
>> Thank you very much.
I just wanted to make sure people realize Charlie Kirk is a domestic terrorist and
he funded the insurrection and does not believe in our democracy.
Make sure that message gets spread.
Now, Charlie Kirk also, by the way like raise some tweets related to January six,
which look, Ali Alexander should not be let off easy because he was part of this.
And what he's trying to do through this deposition is pivot to Turning Point USA
or someone else to avoid taking any blame, he deserves blame.
So does Charlie Kirk.
Okay, they're both wrong.
They both should be investigated and whatever their role is,
if they incited violence or
encouraged what happened, they should suffer consequences for that, period.
Now alexander also said that Turning Point USA turned their backs on
the election integrity movement.
So that statement alone makes it clear that he's perpetuating nonsense talking
points about how there was massive fraud that led to Trump losing the election.
He lost the election fair and square,
he totally screwed up the response to the coronavirus pandemic.
If he had done the bare minimum,
I actually think he would have had a good shot in getting reelected.
But the fact of the matter is, the guy screwed up and people voted him out.
>> These people just don't think there's consequences, they don't think there's
consequences to their words- >> Cuz usually there isn't.
>> Cuz usually there isn't, it's so true.
That's why we have to get so much better at holding people to the fire,
holding them to account.
But that is, it shows you exactly their false bravado.
They're happy to tweet things have to say something on a podcast when you're from
a distance and let people go play out.
But as soon as there might be consequences, I didn't say it,
I didn't do it, somebody else was responsible.
You're responsible.
If you're gonna claim complete BS and try to take down literally our democracy,
you are a traitor to your country and you will pay that consequence.
It doesn't matter if a year and a half has gone by two years have gone by.
Sometimes it takes a minute for those chickens to come home to roost, but
consequences will come.
>> They're coming.
All right, so a few more things I wanna mention.
So Ali Alexander and Charlie Kirk are apparently not friends.
And this is not the first time Alexander went after him and
made some pretty explosive claims.
Alexander made even more explosive claims against Turning Point USA.
Including allegations the student group partakes in a systemic
pattern of covering up sex scandals with nonprofit money.
Class action lawsuits by parents could take down Turning Point USA,
he further wrote of the student group,
he's taken to calling satanic trafficking, TPUSA.
And Ali Alexander is apparently also done with Trump, so much for
that election integrity movement, let's watch.
>> And Trump didn't call me.
There's still some time left, by the way, there's still December, but
trump hasn't called me and I gave up my whole life.
I literally had to leave my house because Antifa knew where I lived and
gave me credible death threats.
I lost everything for trump, everything, and I'm not like Nick Fuentes or
Alex Jones where I can just re spin up my platform, I lost everything for Trump.
>> That means you're a sucker, you got lied to,
you took part in inciting what happened on January 6th.
And the only reason why he's upset about it is that Trump didn't give him a call,
cuz it's all about him, right?
It's not about what's best for the country,
it's not about what's wrong or right.
It's just, I feel slighted by Trump because he didn't call me.
>> It's so great.
It's so great seeing these idiots that have been duped by the most obvious
idiot in modern history and them slowly realizing live on air, wait a minute.
Is he not the guy that I thought he was?
Is he not really fighting for us?
Is what he's saying full of lies and
a little bit of perfect wardrobe he was wearing right there,
wearing his black and white striped shirt, ham burglar style.
Probably premonition that he's on his way to a place where people wear that
kind of stuff.
It's called prison buddy.
Good luck.
>> We'll see what happens.
But I do love watching these questionable figures turn on one another cuz
there's no honor among thieves.
There just isn't- >> I gave up my life for this criminal and
how come he doesn't have my back, is it because maybe he's not loyal to anyone?
>> Could be, could be, you should look into it.