>> The medical examiner's office is reporting that Jeffrey Epstein's death was, in fact,
a suicide.
That is what their report indicates, and they have ruled this a suicide by hanging, and
they gave some details into how he did it.
So, just want to give you guys a warning that there are some graphic details here.
But this is what the report allegedly says.
He appeared to have tied a bed sheet to the top of a set of bunk beds, then knelt toward
the floor with enough force that he broke several bones in his neck.
And I just wanna remind you all of the story we did yesterday about the specific bones
that were fractured in his neck.
The thyoid bone was broken, which is an incredibly difficult bone to break by hanging.
It's often seen in cases of strangulation, but it isn't impossible.
There have been cases in the past where that bone has broken as a result of death, or suicide
by hanging.
I just, based on what we're seeing from this report, I don't know if, I don't know, I find
this very suspicious.
That's all I'm gonna say.
Well, I'm curious why you think that.
Yesterday I mentioned the New York's Chief Medical Examiner, Barbara Sampson, actually
has a lot of credibility, and has withstood pressure before.
When most of the government, the cops, etc., wanted her to declare that Eric Garner was
not choked to death, she wouldn't do it.
And here she took a long time to reach this conclusion and appears to be an honest and
careful medical examiner.
I think suicide is certainly possible, I certainly think homicide is possible too.
The one thing that is driving me crazy is that they won't say the thing that I'm most
curious about.
Did you check the tapes, the video of the hallways?
Exactly.
Right, right.
It's not complicated guys.
If you're positive that those are the right tapes, and they should have immediately grabbed
those tapes and made sure that they had a chain of custody established.
Did anyone go into his cell or didn't they?
I mean that's dispositive, almost dispositive in my mind, but no one has mentioned anything
about it.
What else makes you curious about it, Ana?
So, of course, there's everything leading up to his suicide that I find suspicious,
and we'll get to those details in just as second.
But I can't get past the details of this medical examiner's report, because, first of all,
he had already tried to commit suicide, right?
And so why are there objects in that cell that he can use to hang himself, namely the
sheet, right?
Well, there's two parts of that.
One is, he was taken off of suicide watch after six days which is- Only six days.
Moronic, again, that's why prison shouldn't be the first line of defense for people with
mental health issues.
Anybody who had a mental health background would tell you to keep the suicide watch going,
especially since there's so much pressure for that person around testifying, around
plea bargain.
I mean, Epstein has so much incriminating evidence, and he clearly has the pressure
of national/international media that's hanging over him.
So of course you would continue to have a suicide watch, that's ludicrous.
And the other part of the story, not only the bed sheet, Ana, why is there bunk beds
in his room?
Why don't you think about the fact, it's not only the sheet.
There were multiple ways that he could have possibly tried to commit suicide with the
bunk bed scenario.
Right, right.
The Mankiewicz theory is gaining steam, he mentioned this in Old School.
That's one of our shows, it's a more casual, super fun one, although we were talking about
this case.
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Ben's theory is, maybe they set it up in a way that was like crossing their fingers that
he'd commit suicide.
Hey, nobody's going to kill him, but make sure they're not watching him every half hour,
put the most overworked guards there, which they did.
Yep.
It's a guy on his fifth overtime shift, someone else that was doing mandatory overtime.
They didn't check for three hours.
Make sure you leave the sheets in there, make sure you don't respond when he's screaming
in the morning, check in on him to see if he's okay or not.
Make sure that a bunk bed- Take his cellmate out.
Cell mate out, right!
No, that's the most amazing one.
Yes, that was the most bizarre part of the story.
Right.
Why did the cellmate leave?
Why were they extricated from the situation?
Normally you're supposed to have a cellmate if you're under any kind of suicide watch,
or there's any potential of that.
And then you leave the bunk bed in there.
I mean if someone tried to commit suicide, the very last thing I would have in there
is bed sheets and a bunk bed.
Right, exactly.
Right.
And then also, I can't get past that specific bone that fractured in his neck.
Again, I want to reiterate, it isn't impossible for that to break if someone is hanging themselves.
However, the way in which he did it, really?
That way, I mean doing it from a bunk bed and kneeling provides enough force to break
that particular bone that is already incredibly difficult to break if you hang yourself from
a higher, level I guess.
Yeah, and guys, your neck breaking in a hanging is not unusual.
But if you've seen some of those hangings and we, unfortunately, had to literally see,
or I happened to see the ones after we invaded Iraq and captured some of their top level
officials.
The thing goes out from underneath you and you have a giant fall, right?
Right.
And at that point your neck breaks.
Now, could your neck break from on top of a bunk bed?
It could and many bones in his neck broke.
But the one we're talking about is the hyoid bone which is actually in the front and is
almost always a sign of strangulation when that breaks, rather than a suicide.
But yes, in some studies 6%, in some studies 24% of the time in hangings that one happens
to break as well.
So look, I don't know what I had it at, 50/50, I really, really didn't know.
But Barbara Sampson saying that it says suicide does actually lean me more towards thinking
that it's a suicide.
So I don't know if we'll ever get more information that.
I don't know we'll ever get to see the videotapes or trust that they actually are the videotapes
from that moment in the hallways.
But if they weren't trying to get him to commit suicide, they had a funny way of showing it.
I don't think the theories are gonna die out.
No, definitely not.
I mean, for me, this medical examiner's report made me more suspicious.
But maybe you have a different interpretation.