to meet with Derek Carr. Carr has permission to go talk to
them. Now everyone assume this means cars going to be traded
to the Saints. I did a little digging yesterday once we
worked free of radio row and
I still think cars being cut.
This is just an opportunity for car to get a head. Start on
this free agency Jurgens next week because unless he can talk
to everybody out there, every team that may be interested,
he's not going to agree to a trade. It's cut me
or pay me and they're going to cut it, right?
Well and I think, you know, off of that,
I would expect them to be cut as well.
I understand that,
you know, and the compensation of course, that adds,
you know, some some extra levels to this conversation,
whatever you give the raid, right? Way of draft pick is
less money than you would give to
Derek Carr. If you can get him as a free agent, you'll pay him
more than you would pay him if you had to give up
a third-round pick. I saw third-round pick floating
around yesterday. It's going to be no round pick. He's going to
be cut. Yeah, right. And we kind of know the teams that are
going to be
viable here. Writer, you think Jetts
Saints, who else?
Panthers,
I don't, I don't feel like the Panthers and Frank Reich and
pepper going to go for that rights had enough. He's like,
the love, the Retro quarterback, right? Or yeah.
And I think tempered,
I would think one of the reasons he got Frank Reich was
like, hey wait, you have an eye for quarterback. So I kind of
got a guy here that maybe we can draft one and we can figure
it out the right way, right? I don't expect that, we don't
expect the Cults to go that way because
they've been burned by that.
So
yes, I would think ñ or Or or suspect number one for the Jets
would be Aaron Rodgers but I could see Derek Carr there. And
then after that, I think New Orleans is a team that I would
think about New Orleans is got some pieces on the offensive
side of the ball
and things where you go whether they're still good they could
still be a high-functioning offense. I'm not sure it's
ready to just go like total rebuild mode there and we know
the defense is damn good too especially the way they played
at the end of the
year so I could see them. Maybe going we kind of still feel
like we're in a little bit of a window here to get in the Offs.
We don't want to start with the rookie quarterback. Maybe want
to go with the Derrick card type of thing about elsewhere
in the South other than Carolina and we're Houston.
Tampa Bay or Tampa Bay. Sure you know
Tampa I just feel like
you don't want to follow Tommy
follow Tommy and a little bit like don't you get the sense
that a needs to just start over?
I almost feel like it's but with what Kyle Trask or just
somebody a draft somebody else or hard reset I think so.
I think they Might the lifeline of that team might be over to
where it be a hard reset.
And then the other team you talk about is Houston.
What Houston want to get into that conversation?
You know. Yeah, brother.
He is a Texas kid,
but I would think again they're a team that's going to be
looking at a quarterback here for the future too. So there's
some things there that are certainly interesting but in
Orleans is one that's at the top of the my mind. I remember
when he was drafted in 2014, there was just a very strong
Vibe, the Texans weren't going to go that route because he's
David
cars, rather and things ended so badly. With David, you never
know. David sang to Derek. Now when Derek is entering this
phase
of having multiple options and multiple teams at the table. If
he plays this right? He can come out of it with a good
deal. That's why these Saints thing. If it's just the Saints,
that's not enough for him
to work the Angles and get the best possible
outcome and feel comfortable writing to feel comfortable
about. You gonna do your due diligence the Raiders Shoulda.
Let him start this process. As soon as the season ended, let
him start going around to the interested teams and hope that
they can maybe work out a way
to thread the needle and get somebody to trade. For him for
fear of him, going somewhere else. But even then, he still
got the no-trade Clause. Yeah, he's got the hammer. And
the hammer is cut me or pay me. That's what he needs to say.
That's what he should have been saying and I think that's what
he's
going to ultimately say next. Yeah, I think so. I think we're
you know he's got all the power here for the most part. But
here's one thing Mike that I'll just that at least
percolates in my brain a little bit.
Do you do you think it's a given that one of these teams
for sure's and they give him 40 million a year
but if they were going to trade for him, right? Take 40 point
four million in full guarantee they're going to trade for him,
right? You're going to get more on the market. If someone is
going to pay you that much and give the Raiders, what they
want, you get yourself to an open competition mean, look at
the Sean Walker last year and it's apples and oranges to
a certain extent, yeah, but DeShaun Watson
sets up a trade
With all that baggage knowing he was going to be suspended,
right? And he still finagled it through his agent in a way that
brought four teams at the table.
They threw the Browns out at just the right time. After they
pissed off Baker, Mayfield on the Browns, got desperate and
swung back around. My point is you can't
even get those pieces in motion until you're free and he has
a four-week head. Start on every other unrestricted free agent
because he's cut. He's available,
he can go to New Orleans, he can go to New York, he can go.
Go to Houston, he can go anywhere and then they can set
up the same kind of competition that the Texans and DeShaun
Watson did last year, and that's the way you make it
work. But then you figure out where you want to be.
Yeah. You visit with all of them, you develop a gut feeling
of who you want to play for, and I think that's what Derek
Carr needs to have time to do. And that's the key to Raiders.
Haven't give him time to do it, so it makes it even more
likely. He says,
pay me or cut me. And I thought for a while, maybe they were
considering letting that money vest and then trying to trade
him afterward, I don't think they're going to do that
because I don't think Mark Davis. Wants to commit that
money and run the
risk of not having right? A trade partner may be having to
pay a large chunk of that. Like, we've seen other team.
Sure sure. I understand that, too.
I mean, ultimately, I think I'm with you that I expected to be
cut. No, I'm not. I don't think it's a huge deal. As far as
as we discuss all the time,
I'm
permission or not. Like, we know that there were, there
were having conversations with the teams that are we know
that. I mean, they're not,
they don't didn't need permission.
And you know, so you can't visit, no, you can't pin you
down in the visit, that's the key, that's the you can talk,
right? You can have hypothetical discussions. They
don't, as long as you're discreet about it, you're not
going to get in any trouble. Yeah. Every once in a while,
once every five or six years, there's some random vague
tampering thing that Nails someone
last year with Miami it was because Bruce Beal. The
minority owner the team was being to open in his
admissions. Right? That they were trying to get Tom. Brady
everybody mouth shut about it. No one's going to know No One's
Gonna care in the NFL's. Not Give you a hard time, so
we think he's going to be cut,
it would happen next Tuesday. Yeah, because if he's on
the roster as a 401 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday, he's definitely on
the roster. The next day when the business day starts his 40
point four million is fully guaranteed. So Tuesday's
the day they got to say bye. Bye, Derek
Carr. How do you feel about Derek Carr? Like if you're
the Saints sir, you know, the Jets right? Like it's very
polarizing Derek. Are you know again he's just starting
quarterback and football.
He's you know, how to
I think he's actually
you know, his career has been, okay,
right, he's had some weird circumstances. It's a reason
team that's had him for eight years is moving on.
Well, and that would say it's really odd that a guy that for
eight years and all the amount of games he's played. And it's
I think he's only one somewhere about 40 percent of his games
and all that,
you know?
And some ways you do look at it sometimes and go because
I think, I think more highly of them than maybe some people,
I talked to some people in the NFL and there goes Like
oh man, Derek Carr. I mean come on. I mean Derek Carr what are
you gonna do? Right. So he's kind of like a even in the NFL
with people. I talk to
it's very polarizing. When you bring up his name some are
believers in him. Others thinks he got in a little bit of
a free pass their gosh. He's only been to the playoffs, once he
wins 40 percent of his games,
you know, in the teams that have
for a quarterback that I think has made 150 starts whatever,
you know, the resume is at the bottom of quarterbacks or that.
So That's where I feel like this is going to be interesting
to see who's really interested in him. It's nine years for
Derek Carr.
Drafted in 2014,
he has missed only. I'm doing the math here, real quickly. He
missed one game in 2016. 1 game in 2017. That was when he
suffered the broken leg relay seizures the playoff game,
the one time they got to the playoffs until 2021.
He missed
two games this past year, because they told him that this
those games you're out of here, he would have played all 17, so
he's been durable. There's a lot of Kirk Cousins
similarities here is I right there is that's where it's
polarizing like that, you know, right.
You're good enough to be good enough, right? Are you great
and the Raiders are moving on because they want great. So
these other teams out there it's almost like
a Fail-Safe it's almost like a stopgap. Like we don't know who
our quarterbacks going to be. So let's just have this guy for
a while until we figure out who our great quarterback is going
to be because we don't
think he's going to be great here.
Why would you think in all fairness
and with all due respect and you can never
Say, with all due respect, and then do anything but insult
the person after yeah. But with all due respect to Derek Carr, why
would anyone think that a guy who's had nine years to be
great with the Raiders is going to go somewhere else
and be great, right away? I that's I think the Jets would
be the best choice because they have such a great team already
in place. Sure, I think
there's there's a lot of, you know,
potential there
and again we know Zach, Wilson's not ready. Then he's
not wanted by the fan base there. So I would think that,
yes,
Exhaust the conversation a little with Aaron Rodgers and
Derek Carr would be the second guy. The Saints of the one that
I really look like, you could be like, to what you're talking
about.
We're not sure he's the future, but he's good enough right now,
to where we can win, we can be in contention and, and be
a pain in the butt in the NFC. We got Chris. So la vie, and
still a pretty good old line, and Alvin Kamara,
and that defense to wear
that, that seems to be
the two spots. That makes much sense for me, and the Jets
become a challenge too. Because number one, the media Market
will Not be kind, the fanbase will not be kind if there's any
struggle whatsoever. It's going to be great. The day, he walks
through the door and holds up the Jersey.
Everything after that is going to be downloading iced any
adversity. Any three turnover games?
Any of the stuff that caused him to fall out of favor in Las
Vegas, he is going to become persona, non grata in New York,
and that's just not going to go well. So if I was him,
I wouldn't want the Jets
and then you've got all these Jets fans that are Juiced up
for Aaron Rodgers. You come off as this second choice. Yes.
And, and that just makes The criticism even stronger, if
there's failure of any kind or struggle of any kind of by
Derek Carr. So I think you're right.
I think the Saints
make a lot of sense. He's better than edawn, he's better
than Jameis Winston. Right. And
I think there's a
as far as the offense. They're running down there. It's
similar to Gruden's.
So it won't be a huge adjustment. You can kind of hit
the ground running that way as far as the West Coast
terminology and all that. So yeah, that's not the one.
I kind of seem to lean to
into the most money.
At least that southern accent that he slips into from time to
time will fit, if he's in New Orleans. Maybe he'll slip into
a Cajun accent fast.
You're such a jerk. He does. I mean should we just ignore?
Well, there has got to be in there like see he has a more of
an excuse to that Aaron Rodgers, right? Like he
actually is from Texas. So he might have actually talked like
that a little bit at one point in his life and then, you know,
you
get around like I lost my Jersey accent when I left
Jersey for a long period of time and people are always
like, oh, you don't sound like you're from Jersey. But
then when I get around my jersey,
Friends,
then all the sudden I'm like,
hey get the hell out of here. You know, go to the mall, call
you later. Thank you for standing up because we are
live. I'm trying to be good. It's NFL, they can't bleep it
out, not that they ever do anyway.
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