- Hey there, I'm Colby Rebel.
I am a professional psychic medium.
- My name is Elisabeth South.
I'm a private investigator with Kay and Associates.
- And my job today is to figure out
which one of these guys committed a crime.
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P.I. versus psychic.
Who can get it right?
- Let's see if I can beat this psychic?
I'm a little nervous.
This is weird.
- I'm a little nervous.
Here we go.
- I have a misdemeanor for bootlegging alcohol-
- In the state of Utah.
- Honestly, I don't see anyone here,
they all look really nice to me, actually.
- This should be really fun.
I'm interested to see what is gonna happen here
with these guys.
I'm gonna start with you.
Hi there.
- Hi. - What's your name?
- Blake. - Colby.
Nice to meet you, Colby. - Nice to meet you.
Blake, what's the capital of Utah?
- Salt Lake City.
I wasn't in Utah, but that's where I got in trouble.
It's a whole thing.
- So you weren't in Utah?
- I was in Utah when I got in trouble,
but I wasn't visiting Utah.
I was in Wyoming, but we were going
from Casper to Salt Lake.
- Then how could you get in trouble with Utah?
- 'Cause I was in, Salt Lake City's in Utah,
but we were out staying in Casper.
- Mm-hmm, what were you bootlegging?
- I mean, I'm not from there, so I'm guessing moonshine.
- You didn't know what you had with you?
- Not really, no. - Why?
- Uh, ignorant.
I just heard we were going to Salt Lake,
so I hopped in the truck.
- What kind of a truck?
- It was a Ford F350.
- What color?
- Maroon, but it had like
a gold trim. - Mm-hmm.
Let me shake your hand again.
Ooh, clammy there, Blake, a little clammy.
(laughing)
Are you nervous, buddy?
- No, it's just it's hot under the lights.
- Hot under the lights. - Yeah.
- Is that what it is? - Mm-hmm.
- Okay, all right, thank you Blake.
All right, sweet cheeks.
- All righty. - Okay, cupcake.
What's your name?
- I'm Emily. - Hey Emily.
I'm gonna shake your hand and say hello.
- Hello. - All right, Emily,
what were you doing in Utah?
- I was on my way to Idaho to film a documentary.
- And then you had bootlegging?
How'd that happen?
- It's kind of a crazy story.
- Yeah, they're all crazy-- - Yeah.
- It seems. - We were just, you know,
carrying a lot of, carrying horses and a lot of things
and we were a, a very large tow.
- You just happened to have bootleg?
- I guess some of the cowboys did, yeah,
but we were all kind of together.
- What was the alcohol you were bootlegging?
- I really don't know.
- So how did you have a misdemeanor?
- We were all kind of there and they kind
of just put it on all of us in that way.
- Did you have to go to jail?
- No. - Okay, I'm done.
- Great! - Thank you.
Hi there.
What's your name? - I'm Nate.
- Hey Nate, how ya doing?
- Good, how are you?
- I'm good, I'm good.
Nate, what was the alcohol you were bootlegging?
- Wine. - What kind of wine?
- Red wine. - What happened?
Did you have to go to jail?
- Yeah, I spent the night in jail.
- What happened when you spent the night in jail?
- It was just for processing, but then,
after the night, they let me out,
with just kind of like a slap on the wrist essentially.
- Did you have to pay a fine?
- Yeah. - How much?
- $300. - So what kind
of car were you in?
- I drive a Hyundai Accent.
- What color? - Silver.
- Who was with you? - Just me.
- And so, what is the law in Utah about wine?
- The law, it's, I think alcohol in general,
you can't have more than 3.2% per volume,
but that's different in Nevada.
So I could buy it in Nevada but then as soon
as I crossed state lines, I was breaking the law.
- How did you get pulled over, though?
Because they would have had to pull you over first.
- I had a busted tail light.
- Uh-huh, which tail light?
- My right tail light. - Mm-hmm
- And then he came over, he checked my license,
and then he saw I just had three bottles of wine
sitting in my passenger seat and he's like,
that's against the law.
- So then he took you to jail for it?
- Well, he escorted me to the station and then,
I spent the night there for processing.
- Okay. - Then, they were like,
ah, you're not from here, then you can go.
- Was your family upset?
- They were upset that I spent the night in jail,
but that was about it.
- Okay, thank you, Nate.
A few of these shady McGradys back here have
been giving a fib or two, I will be honest.
And you can kind of tell through their energy,
their energy shifts and you can kind of tell
if they're a thought before they speak,
you can tell with the shifting of the eyes,
which is a subconscious reaction to a question
that they don't know the answer to.
Nate, so far, is the most convincing,
but almost too convincing,
'cause I'm almost a little worried
that he's rehearsed his little story.
We will, we will see, we will see.
I've got one suspect left,
so I'm excited to have him sit down and talk to him.
Hi there. - Hello.
- What's your name? - Josh.
- Hi Josh, how ya doing? - Good to meet you.
- Okay, so what were you doing in Utah?
- Visiting some friends.
- And where were you when you got busted?
- On the border between Wyoming and Utah.
- And why did you get busted?
- I got pulled over for speeding.
- Okay. - 'Cause it's a really long,
boring road right there and had a bunch
of beer in the back seat.
- Okay, so then why was the beer in the back seat an issue?
- Apparently, in Utah, you can't have outside alcohol.
- How would they know that it's outside?
- I have no idea.
- What happened after that?
- They pulled me over. - Uh-huh.
- Gave me a speeding ticket and then,
they wanted to take me to jail.
- Okay. - But I actually gave them,
hey, I'm from Wyoming instead.
Can I just do something else?
And so then, they gave me a court date.
- Oh, what else did you do there?
- Little song and dance.
(laughing)
Showed off my talents.
No, they just set me a court date.
- So you had to go back to Utah for court?
- Mm-hmm. - And then, they gave you
a misdemeanor. - Yeah.
- And did you pay a fine? - I did.
- How much was the fine? - $1,000.
- That's expensive.
Wow, did you have a hard time with that?
- Yeah. - So what were you
doing in Wyoming at the time?
- Working in a mine.
- How long ago was this?
- This would have been, let's see, about 20-ish years ago.
- But at no point-- - Caught up.
- In time, you didn't know you couldn't have alcohol?
- Not across state lines.
- So, no other previous trips did you take alcohol.
You just happened-- - Oh, every time.
- You just happened to get caught this time.
- Yeah. - And none of your friends
told you? - No.
I just never really thought of it as a big deal.
- Okay, all right, thank you.
- Yeah, no problem. - Yeah.
Okay, I'm gonna ask them one more question.
Blake, have a seat.
Just one more quick question. - Yeah.
- Okay, I just want you to look at me and say,
"I have a misdemeanor for bootlegging in Utah."
- I have a misdemeanor for bootlegging in Utah.
- [Colby] Okay, got it.
- I have a misdemeanor for bootlegging in Utah.
- Okay, all right.
Thank you very much.
I'm gonna need another minute here and I'm excited
to come back with my results.
- Well, let's start with you, sir.
- All right.
- So there were two police.
- Well, there's a state trooper and then there was,
from Wyoming and one from Utah, two different guys.
- Why was there one from Wyoming there?
Was it right on the border? - It was right on the border.
- And they just converged on you?
- Yeah. - Interesting.
All right, so how old were you at the time?
- 25. - And was it your first time
every being pulled over?
- No, I've been pulled over for speeding before.
- Was that the only thing you've ever really done?
- Yeah. - You never really
a troublemaker other than that.
- Not that I've ever been caught with.
- Did you guys catch that look with his eyebrow?
I don't know, we might need to do a close up with that one.
(laughing)
Not that you've ever been caught.
Okay, so why did you get caught?
Why did they pull you over?
- Speeding. - How fast were you speeding?
- Only about 10 over.
- 10 over?
Normally they give you about a 15, 15 mile an hour leeway.
- Not in Utah. - Not in Utah.
(laughing)
Were you just driving through, visiting family?
- Visiting friends.
- Okay, well I'm gonna go ahead and move on
to the next person.
That's all the questions I have for you.
I may pull you back down here.
Come sit down here.
What's your name? - Nate.
- Nate, tell me about how guilty you are.
- I guess I'm pretty guilty.
I mean, I got in trouble.
- Where was the wine sitting?
- In my passenger seat on the floor.
- Just rolling around?
- I had put my jacket in between them so they
wouldn't clank up against each other,
but they were just there.
- So you had more than one wine bottle?
- I had three. - What kind were they?
- Red wine.
- Okay, you just picked out three cheap bottles of red wine?
- Yeah.
- And was your family with you.
- No, I was by myself in the car.
- What kind of car were you driving?
- I drive a Hyundai Accent.
- How long ago was this?
- This was two years ago.
- Oh, I'm done talking to you.
Give me the next one.
I'm gonna pull you guys back down her, probably,
for another one.
- Hello. - Hello, what's your name?
- Emily. - Emily.
Tell me about how you were a very naughty girl.
- First of all, very naughty all the time.
(laughing)
- I believe that, actually.
So who got caught?
Tell me, it was alcohol, right?
It says alcohol.
- Mm-hmm. - Tell me about it.
- Well, this one guy was bootlegging whiskey,
I think it was.
- Did you try any?
- No, because we were on our way there
and then it got taken before we were able
to actually get to the destination.
So he brought his funky little supply that he made.
- How much was it?
- I don't remember.
I never really saw it.
They were just kind of unloading it form the car,
but it was enough for, I mean,
how many people were there, maybe like 20 people.
- How large was the caravan?
- There were probably like three horse trailers
and a couple other trucks.
- And you were just kind of a part of it?
- Yeah, I mean, I was the doc crew.
I wasn't like riding horses or anything.
- Have you ever been in trouble
or pulled over any other time?
- I was at a park when it was dark out once
and was told to leave with a boyfriend.
We were just sittin' on a bench.
- I bet you guys were just sitting on a bench.
- It was dark.
- Are you a little nervous?
- Yeah, I am actually.
My legs are shaking a little bit.
- Oh no, I feel so bad.
It's okay, calm down.
- Yeah, I'm chill.
We're good. - If you're telling the truth,
there's nothing to worry about.
- Yeah. - When you were pulled over,
was it just, how many police were there?
- I think there were about two.
There was one like, pulled us all over,
and then another one, kind of, I guess was driving by
and that thing police do where they all kind
of stop and make it worse.
- And then they took the alcohol.
- Mm. - Okay, well go ahead.
I've gotten a nice little talk with you.
I'm not sure about her.
She seemed just a little bit nervous in general
and I've come across these people before.
All right, come sit down.
Last but not least.
Definitely the tallest.
Well, I'm Elisabeth.
What's your name?
- Blake. - So now, you guys,
took alcohol.
What kind of alcohol?
- There was one vodka bottle and it
was like two whiskey bottles,
but was all like bottom shelf, not good stuff.
- You put it in a tool box?
- They did. - They did.
I wasn't in my car.
I was riding along.
- So you didn't actually get in trouble,
your friends did?
- No, we all got in trouble.
They took us all.
We all got a misdemeanor.
- You keep rubbing your pants.
You've been jiggling your legs.
Your hands are sweaty.
- I get sweaty when, under the light.
- When you talk to really awesome people.
- Yeah. - Who you might be lying to.
- Maybe. (laughing)
- Why did you guys put the stuff in a tool box?
- I have no idea.
That was not, it's not my, that's just where it was.
- How did the police find it in the tool box?
- They searched pretty heavily.
They took us all out, they had us in,
we were standing in a ditch.
- Standing in a ditch.
- We were just in a ditch on the side of the road.
They had us all out and they searched through everything.
They were like, pulling everything out of the glove box,
everything, looking.
They were looking for drugs, but--
- Why would they be looking for drugs?
Did you guys look questionable?
- They just took us out and started searching,
I mean everything.
They just, yeah.
- How late was this?
- This was like at 11:00 in the morning.
- 11:00 in the morning, they pull you over
because you're-- - I guess we're speeding
or whatever, yeah. - You guess you're speeding?
- Yeah.
That was not, that did not end up being the problem
and it didn't really seem like they were worried about it.
- I'm still stuck on why they're searching you.
If it's a random pull over because you're speeding.
- Maybe we looked a little shady.
I mean-- - maybe you were like
doing this thing when they-- - Like going like this
the whole time. - Came up to the car
and you were just like, I didn't do anything.
Here's the thing about you.
You seem like one of these guys who always seems
like they're lying no matter what they're saying.
- (laughing) Oh man.
That sucks.
(laughing)
- Because I get the vibe that maybe there are parts
of this story that are true, I'm not sure,
but you act really (beep) guilty.
Go ahead and stand back up.
I didn't believe this guy at first.
At first, I'm like, he's super nervous,
but then he seems like he might be actually just one
of those people who tells a nervous story
or just doesn't look really truthful.
You looked truthful at first until I started talking.
I feel like I have it between two people.
Here's the problem.
I never listen to my gut on these sorts of things
'cause I'll start questioning and be like,
well, this one seemed a little bit nervous
and this one seemed like that.
But generally, if I listen to my gut, it's true.
So I think I know who it is.
- All right, now we are gonna write down
our predictions on a piece of paper.
Hers may be more factual than mine,
but let's give it a shot here.
- I wouldn't say that.
(laughing)
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So I'm confident between two people.
But I'm a little bit torn.
- It's pretty tough.
I hope I'm confident and I was torn
between two people as well.
So either they're really, really good liars,
or we got the right one here.
(laughing)
- Is it the same one?
Oh my god, that is so funny!
(laughing)
We both think Nate, so let's see if Nate just felt
so naturally honest-- - He's such a good liar.
(laughing)
- [Announcer] Okay, now can the real criminal come forward.
- No! - That was my second one!
That was my, he was my second one.
- No, I did not think him.
- I did.
- No. - I was torn between him
and Nate.
- So the real story is I was living in Utah at the time.
We actually bootlegged quite often.
So we would, we'd gone on dozens of runs,
'cause it's cheaper to get alcohol in Wyoming
than it is in Utah, and we had very set rules
for how to do it.
Go in and then either go to a movie in town
or something so if the cops saw you,
they would lose track of you and well,
we broke our own rules and we just went up
and straight across the border.
And they had an undercover sting happening that weekend.
- What! - And so they pulled us over.
They had filmed us loading
up the back of the car for a 4th of July party.
So there was like five cops behind us,
then an unmarked car from Nevada that did the pull over.
- See this seems like a totally unbelievable story.
That is like, so how did that all happen together.
- Yeah, so that's why they pulled
us over right on the border and they had Utah
and Wyoming police there.
But we came back the next day with my brother's truck
and pulled it off, 'cause we did a swap
at an old movie theater downtown that we knew about.
So we came in, bought all the alcohol,
I put it in his truck, he went and went over.
And then, when I came back across, the same cops,
they started pulling me over again and then they stopped,
rolled up next to me, just kind of looked
at me and pulled off.
So we got away with it the next day.
My name is Josh and I have a misdemeanor
for bootlegging alcohol in the state of Utah.
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