Speaker 1: It has been a wild 24 hours of news. We will talk about the Tucker Carlson firing, the Don
Lemon firing. We will look at new interviews from Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump showing what a very
ugly 2024 Republican primary might look like. But the big news. Joe Biden announcing that he
is indeed running for reelection in 2024. If he were to win, he would best his own record of the
oldest age to start a presidential term. Remember that Joe Biden already the oldest president ever
to start a presidential term at 78 when he was inaugurated in January of 2021. Second would,
of course, be Ronald Reagan at age 73. Joe Biden would be 82, I believe if my math is right and
my recollection and my facts at the start of a second term. But can he get there? Well,
that is, of course, a different question. The New York Times headline today, Biden Announces
Reelection Bid Defying Trump and History. While the president once pitched himself as a bridge to
a new generation of Democratic leaders, he has decided that he is not ready to turn the torch
over yet. There may be an event sometime later this week with another announcement. But for now,
this is the announcement and there is all sorts of speculation that honestly, I will mention,
but I don't think is that useful to just really dwell on everything from Biden doesn't really
plan to stay all the way to the election. This is a placeholder because it would hurt him to say now
that he's not running for reelection, but he has to say something because Trump's running at the
Santos might soon be getting in and he can't just do nothing. But he's going to be a placeholder for
the eventual nominee when Biden bows out. Well, we have no evidence that that's the plan. Of course,
you can always assert that someone is lying and they have some real plan behind the scenes, but
we don't have evidence of that right now. Much of this is driven, I think, by two things Joe Biden's
age. And again, the fact that he once did pitch himself as a bridge, as a transitional president
who might only serve for one term if any of those scenarios happen. We are going to have time to
discuss and to analyze, but it doesn't seem very worthwhile to invest time in that right now. Now,
what I think is more interesting to look at is where are the polls today and do Democrats want
Biden to run? Let's start with polling. There is a plethora of polling, hypothetical polling
which says if it's Biden versus DeSantis or if it's Biden versus Trump, what are people
saying right now? A new poll released today from Ipsos Reuters has Biden ahead of DeSantis by nine
and Biden ahead of Trump by five. This poll is out of step with other polling in
two ways. Number one, in most polling, Biden does better against Trump than DeSantis. In this poll,
Biden does better against the Santos. It's also different
in that the numbers are, you know, if you look at most of these other polls we're talking about tied
all the way up to like plus four plus five and plus nine is not something that we are seeing.
We similarly have another poll released two days ago from Morning Consult, which has Biden plus
four over DeSantis and plus one over Trump. And then a number of other poll polls in which Biden
does better against Trump than DeSantis. But the early numbers and they are worth a little bit,
but not that much right now, are that Joe Biden, for the most part, is polling ahead of the two
most likely Republican challengers in 2024. This gets us to the third component of this discussion,
which is are voters happy with the most likely choices, which are Biden and Trump? And the
answer is no, not really. And we talked about this yesterday on the bonus show a little bit.
Speaker 2: Oh, the bonus show where you want to make money. Sure. Everybody else
who makes money to fund themselves as bad. Speaker 1: Yeah, we made money yesterday
on the bonus show talking about this. Majorities don't want Biden and Trump to run in 2024. A new
NBC News poll found that 60% of Americans think Trump should not try to retake the Oval Office,
including roughly a third of Republicans. At the same time, 70% of Americans think Biden shouldn't
seek a second term, including 51% of Democrats. A majority of Democrats don't believe Biden
would seek a second term. Now, what we spoke about yesterday with producer Pat on the bonus show is.
Just because you would rather a different choice doesn't mean if you're a Democrat, you're going to
vote for Trump or if you're a Republican, you're going to vote for Biden. It doesn't mean that.
And I do think that all of the data points as to if these are the choices, even if you'd rather
someone else, if you're not a Trump person, you're not going to vote for Trump just because you'd
rather someone other than Biden and vice versa. Now, I want to go one step further. You all know.
I've not been a Biden cheerleader. I don't find Biden electrifying or exciting or any of it. But
I try to evaluate presidencies as objectively as possible. And I'm going to have a deeper dive on
this for you soon. When I look on paper, as the kids say, it's hard to argue that
the Biden presidency is anything but one of the most successful presidential terms in a very long
time. I know. I know. Biden is not as left as I would like and Biden was not the guy I supported
in the primary and all these different things. But when you actually look at accomplishments,
particularly in the context in which Joe Biden is serving this first of potentially two terms,
it is really difficult to say that this is not a very successful presidential term.
It's crazy to think about. I will lay it out for you as a non Biden cheerleader,
just looking to be as objective as possible. Maybe we'll do that tomorrow or Thursday. Maybe
we'll give it a little more time and look at that next week. But Joe Biden running for reelection.
We are going to be watching this election very closely. We really are. You know, we have this
coupon code 24 starts now on our website. We really are in the midst of the 2024 election
as quickly it feels like we're still seeing Trump at 2 a.m. the day after the 2020 election
saying, I guess I won feels like it was just yesterday. But we really are ramping
up here in the 2024 election and we're going to be covering all of it for you.