i really enjoyed the film guys it's quite funny i was watching it earlier
and when you guys burst in those two packets of cheetos i was eating cheetos
at exactly the same time there we go we have the right feeling
immersive cinema uh but no i mean it's so easy to unfairly judge people who fall victim
to manipulative uh people you know but then when you realize just how easy it can be for anyone no
matter it's no reflection of anyone's intellect or anything like that it's just something that anyone
can kind of fall into is that something that you found quite striking when you were in the process
of making this movie um yeah i mean i think it's something that certainly for myself i've thought
about a lot just because there are you know um certain groups that you you question whether
they're cults or religion or you know there's always these different things that can that can
get you going and i've met people who have come out of um what they would call a cult and and
very into intelligent people um and i think sometimes it's just a moment of vulnerability
um that you fall into and they catch you at that moment and it seems like that's the answer um
and so i think that was very much uh at least for myself i think we lost lorenza
for a second here but um the that uh um you know that for jillian this was definitely an answer to
many of her questions and her feeling of you know being lost and i guess our lives are a search for
something um so i always find that an interesting narrative is just how people get into said cults
friends here we keep yeah i was going to say before i ask my next question
so you mentioned about doing some sort of research can you do much research into kind of victims of
cults so i guess it's something that can be a little bit kind of clouded in sort of ambiguity
and stuff but in this instance i mean i guess you can just kind of do research into anyone
who's suffering from trauma or abusive past relationships sure i mean to be perfectly
honest with you there wasn't much research that we dove into i think we dove more into
it's such an interesting concept this movie because it's it's that whole question of you know
how do you escape the voices in your mind and have they been it seems as though they've been
hypnotized by this cult leader and so how do you run away from that and how do we
play that as actors and how do we keep track of where we are on that journey of how far
how far we're you know believing what's in our our minds and when we start questioning that so
i think that was more the trajectory rather than um rather than the research of you know
being a victim of a cult and all that which i like i said you know definitely been curious
about and have seen many documentaries about just because it's um i think we're all intrigued by it
and and curious as to how that happens but yeah not much research in that sense for this role
but how was the shooting experience because i mean you were outdoors obviously for the most part and
so it was and it was obviously pretty much just just yourself and lorenzo for so many
of the scenes was it quite it was quite a unique experience to make i imagine this you know what
it was wonderful it was in the middle of covid and so you know i think that's why this was a
perfect film to make because we're outdoors just two people pretty much you know other than chris
messina was in for a minute but but it was it was quite wonderful it felt like um coming back to
life a little bit and it was about an hour drive out to the desert here in outside of los angeles
and lorenza is a wonderful human being and and Chris [Cullari] and Jennifer [Raite] our writer/directors were just
fantastic to work with and collaborate with so it was one of those unique beautiful experiences and
i think everyone was grateful that we were back at work um and it was you know the days were real hot
and the nights were real cold so you'd be sweating and taking your layers off during the day and then
the evening you'd be asking for heaters and you know warm-up tents and all that stuff but that's
just kind of part of it and and we had an absolute wonderful time making this crazy dark film
i don't know i don't know as well because i'm just bringing back to cheetos because
obviously i'm obsessed with cheetos but are you flaming hot or original oh flaming hot for sure
so kindly offered the choice and i was like well i would have just taken the flaming heart and not
lovely about it i would have taken the flaming heart too it's much better
so my final question is because i've spoken when you're playing characters about very complex quite
trouble relationships like like your character does obviously with chris's um in this instance
i've spoken to some actors who say when they have that kind of on-screen adversary they can
become really good friends on set and they have no they find no issues separating the actor from the
character but in some instances other to say that they'd like to keep a distance from that person to
kind of enrich and inform that quite troubled kind of dynamic between the two i just wondered what it
was like with yourself and chris in this and if you yeah if you were if you did keep a kind of
distance or if you were just happy just to to get along definitely the former definitely just we're
super close i love chris messina we've worked together before i think he's an outstanding actor
um felt so lucky to have him on this you know we got caught up on everything in life in between
um i'm definitely not method at all i you know um and thankfully neither is chris so we were able to
really hang out and i actually feel like you can um for me i just feel like you can
explore and play a little more when you do feel comfortable with the actor that you're working
with the more you get to know them the more you you feel like you can be vulnerable and same goes
for your directors you know and i think that's really important as an actor to be able to trust
fall into the people that you're working with so yeah we had a lot of fun it's so you know
you always think that these dark dark sort of thriller films i i find more so than not that
you need a bit of levity in between so you end up sitting around and and joking and shooting
the [ __ ] so to speak and it was great i just want to be thinking it must be so difficult if
someone else's method and you don't want to be method exactly it's never happened before so you
know there's always time but yeah so far knock on wood it's been great brilliant thank you so much
for the time when lorenzo comes back until i said goodbye i will i will thank you sorry about that
thank you can't be helped all right take care thanks so much bye ladies and gentlemen you're
watching hey you guys hey you guys how are you guys is that from the goonies yes