- [Teran] Good afternoon, Trainiacs.
Thanks to a microphone
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snafu yesterday,
we got no audio for my regular morning, Trainiacs.
I was super excited and I went for an awesome bike ride and
now you can't see my excitement. I don't know.
Mel, just, cut in some hey, huh, hoo, huh--
nice footage from me being excited yesterday.
Obviously, without any audio though.
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No big deal because the jist
of what we're talking about today
is we are going to interview Matt Kerr.
In just his third triathlon ever, he did a 9.21 Iron Man
and in his second triathlon ever,
he did a 4.28 Half Iron man,
and he did it on low carb-high fat.
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- So, I just got off the phone with Matt Kerr.
That is a damn talented athlete,
and that is one serious time change
between Australia and New Zealand and here.
It's like you're on another continent or something.
So, I was put in touch with Matt, who just recently,
in his very first Iron Man,
did a 9.21.
Just prior to that, in his very first Half Iron Man,
he did a 4.28.
Doctor Dan Plews, the guy that, if you haven't been around,
is consulting me leading into Challenge Roth.
Dan is an absolute expert and, kind of,
long distance performance training. He's been published
24 times, talking about topics like HRV for recovery
and training management, low carb-high fat adaptation,
nasal breathing he's been researching lately,
and the guy walks the talk.
He is a super busy dude himself,
only trains up to 20 hours a week
except last year in 2018,
the all time Kona course record,
winning the amateur division of Kona.
He's serious.
So, Dan and I are working together, and if you wanna get
like a starter pack on going low carb,
this is a little bit of what Dan is working with me on.
You can go to triatholonteran.com/theplews
and I've put together a free little starter pack
that's kinda a lot of the best doves getting started
with low carb-high fat training for endurance athletes.
But, getting back to Matt.
Matt is an awesome athlete. This 9.21 he did.
The 4.28 that he did.
It was only the second and third race that he had ever done.
And he doesn't really have a big sports background.
You can see.
- [Matt] Reasonably, I've played a bit of high school sports
like waterpolo and whatnot,
but the bike is certainly new to me.
Very new.
So, I've had a bit of time in the water
and on the road running,
but nothing at high competitive level.
Or long distance like this stuff,
so yeah this is all new which is cool
because it's all uncharted territory
and you can sort of experiment with it.
- [Teran] He wasn't an elite swimmer.
He sure wasn't an elite cyclist,
and take a look at him running.
It's not like he is this elite runner.
He's clearly very new to the sport,
but he is very talented and he's got good coaching.
One thing that I ask Matt about
because when I went out this morning for the ride
with
nothing but my phone and a set of keys
and I was going out for two and a half or three hours,
it's a little frightening to think
that I've got no gels, or chews, or bars to rescue me
if things don't go well.
But, as Matt said here,
"it's a process where the first few times you go out,
very scary, but you can get there."
- [Matt] I guess, in that really structured stuff,
I have some long rides on the weekends,
and that was the Saturdays.
We'd buy, you know you'd be out for four to five hours
not fueled, first thing in the morning,
and when your first starting this diet,
it's like I'm never gonna get to that,
but all of a sudden, you're pretty comfy, ya know.
You're sippin on some water,
and make a bit of coffee and cream before you go,
and that's your fuel for the five to six hour ride
that you gotta do and get done.
- [Teran] He said, apparently after around 4,5,6 weeks
after getting over the adaptation period,
little bit of the keto flu because
there is a keto component in it.
Not the whole the whole thing,
but you start feeling better around that time.
- [Matt] It took me a good four to five weeks, ya know
even four to six weeks, thereabouts.
I counted my calories and there was a week I was pretty down
and just got that whole keto flu thing.
It was pretty horrible, but then you pop out of it.
- [Teran] And, big question I've got,
is what do you take during racing?
Well, as you can see with Matt,
and this is was Dan Plews does,
and I think this is what I am going to end up doing,
you still have carbs at certain times.
- [ Matt] I had gels. I had gels on the bike.
And I had a bar of energy transition
and just water.
That was it. Well, actually I had a cup of coffee on my run,
and has these chews. I think I had, let me see
I had two packs of those, so that's about 24 grams of carbs
across the run.
- [Teran] So, you get fat adapted,
and then race with carbs and you can just Google
the concept of train low-race high. That'll explain it.
We have to give a shout out to Grant Schofield,
that's Dan Plews business partner,
and I think somewhat of a mentor.
He, himself, I think is a 1.52 Olympic distance former pro.
- [Matt] Well, Dan and Grant together,
ya know, things just fall into place
and I've been so fortunate and lucky
to have the knowledge that I've got
and be lead and guided by them.
It speaks for himself, his record and whatnot.
- [Teran] And, Grant Scholfield is the author
of "What the Fat?", "What the Fast?",
and one other book.
I can't think of what it is.
We're gonna try to get him on the podcast
and we'll talk about that.
Matt and I, we talked about a lot of things,
but one of the biggest ones is this is going to be hard.
This is not for the faint of heart.
This is not just change your diet and boom,
everything is done.
It's gotta be done properly,
and you've gotta have a lot of willpower to do it.
- [Matt] Grant warned me pretty well.
He said, clean out your pantry, clean out your fridge,
go to a shop, and don't have anything else
than what you shop in there, because you will be tempted to
stash away at it and snack away, so exactly I did that.
- [Teran] So that's Matt. It was really neat talking to him.
I gotta say that, now being
seven days into this process with the Plews, I'm interested.
Talking to Matt, talking to the Plews,
seeing the performances that the athletes that he coaches
are starting to put out.
I'm excited.
So, Trainiacs, go check out that free download,
if you wanna get started with low carb-high fat training.
Triathlonteran.com/theplews because
it's not as simple as just lower your carbs.
I was trying to lower my carbs after talking to Dan
the very first time on our podcast back in November,
and I wasn't really seeing many changes
because there's a lot more system that goes into it
besides just eat less carbs and you'll be good.
It's more complicated than that,
so go check that out and thanks to Matt for
spending some time sharing his experience with me.
Now, if you wanna follow along with an athlete
that is just taking up the sport, is super talented,
wants to see how far he can go,
while being low carb-high fat,
we will link to Matt's Instagram profile below.
He doesn't post it a lot, but he says he's gonna start more.
And, if you want to follow along with this entire
low carb-high fat training process that we'll be doing
up until the beginning of January,
hit the subscribe button below.
This is gonna be tough.
Later, Trainiacs.