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Joshua fields Millburn and
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famed minimalist who have
helped more than 20 million
people make more of their
lives with less and the new
documentary now streaming on
netflix called the minimalist
less is now in film critic Pam
Powell and a chance to talk
with about this film and about
how you.
Can begin simplifying your
life.
Minimalism that's quite the
trend these days as we say
with a lot of different
specials on netflix we see
Murray tiny houses and all
sorts of minimalism but you
guys feel like you have tree
and whole trend may be about 5
years ago and he got a new
documentary out when you tell
me a little bit about the
documentary how things have
changed since 2016 to now.
For sure yeah, our first
minimalism came out on netflix
in 2016. And now we've got
this new film is called them
in lists less is now in this
film is a lot different. It's
a film it's about starting
over with less so they were so
burdened right now buy stuff
for sure right. A lot of us
are stuck in her home starting
to question all the things
with. But also were burned by
toxic relationships are
burdened by commitments. We
are burdened by too many
call-up calendar injuries. We
are burdened by debt. And what
this film looks to do is try
to expose some of those
burdens and how we can set
them down so we can start over
with less.
look at our minimalism it was
you know kind of story of Josh
Knight we were on tour. We
were we were talking about our
journey certainly some of that
in this film but but this new
film what I really enjoy about
it is we have 30 every day
minimalist from all walks of
life who share their own
journey with minimalism and
over in their lives. I.
And things have changed
over the last 4, 5, years
saying you touched on this in
this new documentary about the
fact that the Internet
released ways you and how you
purchased items and so we're
aware of this but how do we
combat that.
resources that we spend we
often about the money that we
spend on our stuff what about
I mean our attention I feel
like over the last decade.
Yes, it from me right and it
started with the stuffed
animals and did but it's
branched out beyond that into
have because I'm never getting
that back there is no refund
for the time. It is poorly
spent and so. In terms of how
do we how do we combat this
well always starts with a
question for me and we talk
about this in less is now the
question is how might your
by asking that question is not
just a how to question is more
of a wide to question why
should I simplify my life why
is this a probe are it for me
and that will help me move
forward by understand the why
the how begins to appear and
take care of itself yeah, and
that question is so important
all the the clicks and then
the screens and everything we
have in our lives.
I mean the average American
sees about 5,000
advertisements a day. So when
you think about that you know
some of that stuff passed to
ceedee into our minds and
subconsciously we start to one
things in fact in the and he
let any Leonard she talks
advertising in marketers
literally tried to go out of
their way to make you feel
like you are not complete if
you don't have a certain item
if you don't go into certain
vacation if you don't buy a
certain car and with this
5,000 advertisement going to
be very deliberate where we
put our rivals like Josh said
what we do with our time and
with our attention and
minimalism and in this
documentary really helps be
more deliberate with those
precious resources and I'm
want you to be honest I think
okay are you ready for this
absolutely I know that you
both went through quite your
And then you change, but it
wasn't like an overnight
change you can imagine that it
could just be an overnight
change and as I look around my
house and I got to pick out
was whole lot behind
what is the first step that
you took in order to gain a
sense of control and that
stress relief and freedom and
did you have any roadblocks as
you went through and just
can't do this.
Yeah well you know Josh
Knight we took 2 different
approaches so Josh, he spent
several months simplifying his
life which is great for him,
but I'm someone who needs to
do something a little bit more
radical to change my state. So
when I started my minimalists
this idea of a packing party.
We decided to pack up all my
belongings as if I were moving
and then what unpack only got
Campbell Reid he literally
they help me bucks up
everything the clothes
kitchenware towels tv's my
electronics my framed
photographs and paintings my
toiletries I mean even my
furniture everything so I
spent 3 weeks on packing
things I needed that you can
imagine that first day packing
some bed sheets and clothes
for work my toothbrush so
forth and so on well at the
end of that experiment after 3
weeks and 80% of my stuff
still sitting in those boxes
was kind of my label moment of
oh wow maybe I don't need as
much as I thought. I needed
and I wish I could sit here
80% of stuff and guess what
I've never had to buy anything
again and everything's been
perfect from there on out, but
that's just not really how it
works it was that was my first
in this for 10 years so over
the over the last 10 years
this is really been a journey
for us it's not owning the
right 100 items, it's really
for your life, so yes, there
are certainly some struggles
and I see the new iPhone come
out and my you know my my
interest so it kind of jumps
for joy to that's really slick
and and band that has a better
camera on and I really want
that what minimalism has
helped me do is really
question those impulses in
that's really what Josh and I
are trying to help people do
is you know consumerism or
impulsive consumerism is
really the problem and if we
can learn how to face those
and the meaningful way then we
can make better decisions and
live a meaningful life.
But I really like shopping
haha apparently that's not
something you're supposed to
do today at least. if gets to
interview is coming up
tomorrow. The film however is
now streaming on netflix I may
check it out on time so yeah
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