[Captins are auto-generated] An album that just celebrated
its 30th anniversary is out of time.
It's amazing how that album
really resonates for people,
just hasn't dated at all.
And for those of us who are already
longtime RTM fans, when that album
came out, it sounded like
a whole new a whole new era for you.
Yeah, we were doing things that
people weren't doing the right thing
and we were doing it with our own
particular flair, I guess.
I mean, that record in particular
is a lot of songs about that, which
is on the face of
what's out. But there's
there's an immense amount of
resources, I think, to
approaching such a difficult
subject, one face on and
being able to
express
the infinity that we all have
through these shared experiences
that are often difficult
and that we're not using
and then being able to
not only deliver, but we see that
through music, of course,
provides a whole other level of,
well, heartache.
But but other things, you know, it
touches you in a way different way
than other other mediums or other
art forms, too.
So, yeah, I'm really super,
very proud of both of those records
are just to me,
the song that kills me on an
out of time is Half a World
Away.
Never a hit, still kind of a deep
cut, but me too,
I just started singing that song
about a month ago.
I went back to the place where I
wrote it and
it hit me.
How beautiful that song.
It's like really, really, really
dark and really sad.
But there is this feeling of
of having been through something
after you've sung along to it.
Yeah, I love that song.
I completely forgot
it. Just kind of hit me again.
It's a song that's another
another legendary bird song.
But Birdland by Patti Smith.
Yeah,
there's that sort of sense of like
being blackbird's following
you around almost as a
another haunting memory.
Yeah, I didn't even think about
that, but Byrdland is really the
song on horses that turn
to me. That's the one that Patti
knows us now.
But that's that's
there are several lyrics in that
song that as a 15
year old with a very
limited knowledge of music
and it's power, that's the song
that I just what
the fuck is this?
And I never look back then I decided
that I was going to dedicate
myself to art and to music
and I was going to be a singer on a
band I never knew.
And it didn't occur to me that I
would have to be able to be
able to sing c be able to stand
on stage and perform in front of
people all these all these things.
It didn't occur to me as a 15 year
old that you had to kind of follow
through on that dream.
But the dream became
a nightmare. And I followed through
on it became a dream.
And in that sense of
being haunted by the past, I guess
country feedback is another song of
that album that just just destroys
me. Such a soulful performance.
It audible in your vocals, I
mean.
Yeah, luckily, it's fiction.
It didn't happen, but
but it's one of my last
songs, so it lists
all these ways that this couple
really at the very
end of their relationship,
has tried to make it work and
and realize that it's
a conflict will never it will never
work.
So it's a list of just one thing
after another.
I don't remember writing it.
I do remember singing it.
And I remember that.
I believe I sing I
in in history, I thought that I sing
it once, walked out of the studio
and went home and slept
for 14 hours, I
believe. Then when we rereleased
Automatic for the people, that's the
record that that's the one before
that I took time out of time.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
I get mixed up.
Yeah. When we released that record
we did some, we went back and
found a bunch of demo tapes and I
believe actually there's a
demo version of country feedback,
which in my mind I had only
ever seen it once.
But maybe once you ended
up with such an ambiguous song.
One of my very favorite RTM stuns me
and honey.
And
I read this, you wrote something
about that, so I think you were
wrong, dead wrong about it,
but but it was a sweet
interpretation of what the lyrics
the song is about a guy who's
who's
gotten pregnant and she's decided
to have an abortion.
And he.
Was not she did not contact
him to let him know her decision.
He's very, very upset.
I've been totally wrong about that
song all these years.
That's OK.
Not at all.
That is such a it's such
a beautiful groove.
It is beautiful. It's got Kate
Pierson on it. And that's
that's the that's the record where
everyone we knew who was brilliant.
His name started with a K.
We basically rang them up and said
we could be on our record and we
were trying we have
Kidd, Jordan, US one,
we have Kaka's and there's a few
other kids in there. But we
we were really trying to be anything
but RTM.
We were trying to really
step outside of ourselves and
and to do so with
with great horn players and
string arrangements and and other
other singers. What other what other
voices could bring to
our particular take on
Pumpkin's.