41.42.
THAT IS A BIG MOVE, YOU'RE
RIGHT.
>>> NOW THIS.
ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN
NETANYAHU COULD SOON VISIT
SAUDI ARABIA TO MEET WITH CROWN
PRINCE MOHAMMED BIN SALMAN?
WALID PHARES WITH US, FOX NEWS
NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST.
WALID, DO YOU THINK HE WILL
ACTUALLY GO TO SAUDI ARABIA?
IF HE DOES, WHY IS HE GOING?
>> FIRST OF ALL I'M SURE HE IS
VERY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT MOVE.
BUT WHY IS HE GOING?
IT HAS SOME LITTLE HISTORY.
THE GENESIS OF REPROACHMENT
BETWEEN SAUDI ARABIA AND ISRAEL
REALLY GOES BACK TO 2015 WHEN
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DECIDED
TO SIGN AND EXECUTE THE IRAN
DEAL, IT SCARED BOTH
SAUDI ARABIA AND ISRAEL BECAUSE
IRAN DID NOT CHANGE BEHAVIOR.
IT STILL MADE STATEMENTS ABOUT
THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL.
MADE STATEMENTS ABOUT REMOVAL OF
THE REGIME IN SAUDI ARABIA.
SO THE CONVERGENCE BETWEEN SAUDI
AND ISRAEL, DISCRETE,
CONFIDENTIAL AND NOT PUBLIC
STARTED.
ONLY WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP WENT
TO RIYADH, ADDRESSED 50 ARAB AND
MUSLIM LEADERS AND SPOKE ABOUT
THE NECESSITY OF GOING THROUGH
PEACE.
OF COURSE AFTER THAT, WHEN MBS,
MOHAMMED BIN SALMAN CAME TO
POWER AND HE WAS CONVINCED THIS
SHOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO
IN THE REGION, I THINK THE
PROCESS WE SEE, WE MAY SEE A
PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL IN
RIYADH OR ANYWHERE ELSE IN
SAUDI ARABIA SOON.
STUART: WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL
BE THE REACTION OF HARD-LINE
WAHHABIS IN SAUDI ARABIA WHEN
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU ARRIVES
IN RIYADH?
WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD
SAY?
>> STUART, EXCELLENT QUESTION,
THOSE OPPOSED TO THIS IN THE
REGION WILL TRY TO STIR TROUBLE
AND SAY, SAUDIS ARE GOING TO
RISE, BUT THINGS ARE CHANGING
INSIDE OF SAUDI ARABIAS, I'VE
BEEN WARNING ABOUT IT FOR MANY
YEARS, INCLUDING ON YOUR SHOW,
UNDERNEATH THE MEDIA YOU HAVE
SOCIAL MEDIA AND SOCIAL MEDIA IS
EXPRESSING A LOT OF THINGS
HAPPENING IN SAUDI ARABIA.
THE RADICALS ARE STILL AROUND
BUT THE RADICALS HAVE BEEN
LITTLE BY LITTLE ISOLATED,
PUSHED BACK BY MBS PRECISELY.
WITHOUT MBS, MR. NETANYAHU WILL
NOT GO TO SAUDI ARABIA.
THERE WILL BE OPPOSITION.
BUT SAUDIS PREPARED THE GROUND
WITH THEIR CIVIL SOCIETY, WITH
MODERATES INSIDE OF
SAUDI ARABIA.
OF COURSE THERE WILL BE NOISE
OUTSIDE OF SAUDI ARABIA MORE SO
THAN INSIDE OF THE KINGDOM.
STUART: SEEMS LIKE THE POWERS
THAT BE IN THE MIDDLE EAST ARE
LINING UP AGAINST IRAN.
SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO,
HE IS THERE AT THE MOMENT.
HE IS ON, AN 8 CITY OR 8 COUNTRY
VISIT ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.
HE IS BASICALLY LINING UP
SUPPORT AGAINST IRAN.
THAT IS THE FUNCTION OF HIS
TRIP, I TAKE IT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
SECRETARY POMPEO IS NOT SHY.
WAS NOT SHY ABOUT THE MATTER.
HE WANTS TO PUT IMMENSE PRESSURE
ON IRAN REGIME, NOT THE IRAN
PEOPLE.
THEY HAVE AN OBJECTIVE TO SHOW
FIRST IRANIAN OPPOSITION WE'RE
SERIOUS ABOUT PUTTING ON THAT
PRESSURE.
SHOWING THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT
THEY NEED TO BACK OFF WHAT
THEY'RE DOING IN THE REGION AND
SHOW THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WE HAVE
GOOD RELATIONS WITH MANY, MANY
COUNTRIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
THE CLAIM THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION IS ISOLATED,
EVERYBODY DOESN'T LIKE
WASHINGTON, THAT IS NOT TRUE.
SECRETARY POMPEO WILL ADDRESS
MANY PEOPLE IN THE EGYPT AND THE
REGION AND SHOW THEY'RE READY
FOR US ABOUT THE NEW POLICY OF
CONTAINING IRAN.
STUART: IT IS UNLIKELY IRAN WILL
BACK AWAY FROM EXPANSIONIST AND
AGGRESSIVE PLANS YET WE HAVE
THIS COALITION FORMING AGAINST
THEM.
DO YOU SEE A WAR IN THE OFFING
AT ANY POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE?
>> POLITICAL WAR IS ON.
THE MEDIA WAR IS ON.
THE PSYCHOLOGICAL WAR IS ON.
THE TERRORIST WAR IS ON.
THE IRANIANS KNOW THAT IF THEY
WANT TO FACE OFF WITH THE U.S.
AND THE ARAB COALITION THAT IS
RECALL TOKING NOW, SHOULD HAVE
BEEN FORMED TWO YEARS AGO, THEY
WILL LOSE IT.
THEY WILL LOSE IT VERY, VERY
BADLY.
SO WHAT THEY DO BASICALLY, THEY
PREEMPT.
THEY PREEMPT INCLUDING ALL THE
CASH THEY HAVE FROM THE
$150 BILLION SEWING DISCORD IN
SAUDI ARABIA.
TRYING TO INFLUENCE OUR POLITICS
HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF
THE U.S. CAN COALESCE ALL THESE
COUNTRIES, FIRST OF ALL THE REAL
THREAT FENCE THE REGIME WILL NOT
BE ALL THE COALITION BUT