THREE BUSSES IN IT WAS ABLE TO
DO.
JOINING HE ME RIGHT NOW IS FOX
NEWS SENIOR STRATEGIC ANALYST,
CHAIRMAN OF THE INSTITUTE OF THE
STUDY OF WAR, GENERAL JACK
KEANE.
IT’S GREAT TO SEE YOU THIS
MORNING.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
WE’VE TALKED SO MUCH ABOUT
COMMUNIST CHINA AND ITS
SURVEILLANCE PROGRAMS.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT
WE’VE BEEN WATCHING THESE LAST
TWO WEEKS?
>> WELL, CERTAINLY I THINK IT’S
UNFORTUNATE THAT ADMIRAL KIRBY
WHO I KNOW PRETTY WELL
CHARACTERIZED THIS AND COMPARING
ADMINISTRATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT
THEY’RE DOING HERE, I MEAN, THE
REALITY IS IS THAT THIS
ADMINISTRATION CERTAINLY HAD A
SIGNIFICANT PENETRATION BY A
HUGE BALLOON CARRYING A VERY
HEAVY PAYLOAD AND THAT WAS
TRACKED FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS
BEFORE IT REACHED ALASKA.
WE MADE A POLICY DECISION NOT TO
SHOOT IT DOWN, NOT KNOWING WHAT
IT WAS GOING TO DO AND CERTAINLY
THE FACT THAT IT SAT OVER NEW
YOU CLEAR MISSILE SITES FOR A --
NUCLEAR MISSILE SITES FOR A
COUPLE DAYS AND TRANSVERSED THE
ENTIRE UNITED STATES I THINK
CLEARLY THE ADMINISTRATION IF IT
HAD TO DO IT OVER AGAIN WOULD
LIKELY HAVE SHOT THAT DOWN AND
THAT IS WHY I THINK IT EXPLAINS
THESE OTHER THREE BALLOONS THAT
HAVE BEEN SHOT DOWN ALMOST
IMMEDIATELY OR AT LEAST WITHIN
HOURS OF DETECTION AND YET THEY
APPEAR ON THE SURFACE OF IT NOT
TO PRESENT A SIMILAR THREAT THAT
THE LARGE BALLOONS DID.
WE SHOULD GET OUT OF THE
POLITICS OF THIS.
THIS IS A NATIONAL
SECURITY ISSUE.
AND NOT COMPARING ONE
ADMINISTRATION TO ANOTHER.
THE FACT IS, THAT AFTER THIS
LARGE BALLOON PENETRATED THE
UNITED STATES AND STAYED IN THE
COUNTRY, IT WAS THEN THAT THIS
ADMINISTRATION, THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION DECIDED TO TAKE A
LOOK FURTHER AT WHAT HAS BEEN
THE HISTORY OF COMPLETE FLEET BA
THEY DISCOVERED, THAT, YES,
THERE HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY FOUR
PENETRATIONS OF THE UNITED
STATES, ONE DURING THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION AND THREE DURING
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
NONE OF THEM AS CONSEQUENTIAL IN
TERMS OF SIZE OR DURATION OF THE
ONE THAT WE EXPERIENCED IN THE
UNITED STATES FOR A WEEK.
WE SHOULDN’T BE POINTING
FINGERS.
WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS
GETTING TO THE WOULD THE TOM OF
THEY IN TERMS OF WHAT IS REALLY
HAPPENING AND I DO THINK IT IS
FAIR CRITICISM THAT THE
PRESIDENT HAS NOT COME FORWARD.
NORAD FORMED IN 1958 IN THE
EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION AND
DURING ALL OF OUR TIME FROM
EISENHOWER TO BIDEN NOT ONE
PRESIDENT HAS EVER HAD TO DEFEND
AMERICA’S AIR SPACE EXCEPT
PRESIDENT BIDEN BECAUSE IT WAS
VIOLATED.
I DON’T WANT TO OVER-DRAMATIZE
IT.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE NOT
ABOUT TO BE KILLED BY THIS.
NO OTHER PRESIDENT HAS HAD TO
DEAL WITH IT.
HE SHOULD COME FORWARD.
STANDING NEXT TO HIM SHOULD BE
HIS SECRETARY OF DEFENSE AND
SECRETARY OF STATE EXPLAINING TO
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT WE KNOW
AND WHAT WE DON’T KNOW AND IF WE
DON’T KNOW EVERYTHING, JUST TELL
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT.
WE CAN HANDLE IT.
MARIA: THAT’S RIGHT.
YEAH, I TOTALLY AGREE.
WE’RE NOT HEARING ANY ANSWERS
AND IT ALMOST SUGGESTS THAT
THEY’RE EMBARRASSED.
THEY KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, FOUR
BALLOONS, THREE OF WHICH WERE
SHOT DOWN OVER THE WEEKEND, IS
MAKING BIDEN LOOK WEAK.
THE FACT THAT THE CCP THINKS
THEY CAN DO THAT.
I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON WHAT
TO DO NOW BECAUSE, GENERAL, YOU
KNOW, CHINA HAS MOST FAVORED
NATION STATUS WHEN IT COMES TO
TRADE.
IS THAT A LEVER TO PULL?
AND HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH OTHER
GLOBAL LEADERS WHO ARE
SUPPORTING THE CHINESE COMMUNIST
PARTY, DESPITE THESE
PROVOCATIONS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WEEK THE
U.K. FOREIGN OFFICE IN THE U.K.
IS GOING TO HOST THE CCP
OFFICIAL IN CHARGE OF THE
XINJIANG PROVINCE.
THE PRIME MINISTER APPARENTLY
ALSO SOFT ON CHINA.
FOREIGN SECRETARY JAMES KLOBERLY
IS ALSO SOFT ON CHINA AND THEN
YOU’VE GOT THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN
RAISING, KICKING OFF A THREE-DAY
TRIP TO CHINA TODAY.
S HE’S EXPECTED TO MEET WITH
CHINESE LEADER XI JINPING,
GENERAL.
WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING FROM THE
IRAN MEETING AND WHAT ABOUT THE
U.K. HOSTING THE HEAD OF THE
XINJIANG PRO PROVINCE, OF COURSE
THAT’S WHERE THEY DO SLAVE LABOR
IN CHINA.
>> I’M STUNNED BY THAT.
I DON’T UNDERSTAND -- THAT
REVOLUTION IS EXTRAORDINARY.
I MEAN, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST
UNIQUE EXPERIENCES THAT’S TAKEN
PLACE IN THE WORLD IN TERMS OF
REPRESSION OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
OVER 1 TO 2 MILLION PEOPLE ARE
ACTUALLY IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS,
STERILIZATION HAS TAKEN PLACE,
FORCED ABORTIONS.
I MEAN, IT’S ABSOLUTELY
OUTRAGEOUS, REPREHENSIBLE
BEHAVIOR THAT SHOULD BE
CONDEMNED WORLDWIDE, MUCH LESS
HOST THE POLITICAL LEADER OF THE
PROVINCE.
THINGS NOMAKES NO SENSE.CHINA IS
TO THE UNITED STATES.
WE’RE IN A STRUGGLE OVER THE
COUNTRIES, TO BE SURE.
CHINA WANTS TO DOMINATE THE
WORLD GEOPOLITICALLY AND
CERTAINLY REPLACE THE UNITED
STATES AND WE’VE GOT TO STEP UP
WITH A COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY TO
DEAL WITH THEM.
THAT IS THE REALITY OF IT.
WITH IRAN, AS YOU MENTIONED,
IRAN -- IT’S NOT WELL-KNOWN THAT
IRAN IS SUFFERING ECONOMICALLY.
THEY DON’T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY
THEIR PROXIES WHO ARE CONDUCTING
WARS IN SYRIA, INMEN IN YEMEN AN
CERTAINLY SUPPORTING THEIR
ACTIVITIES IN IRAQ AS WELL AND
AS A RESULT OF THAT THEY’RE
GOING HAT IN HAND WITH MOST
MEMBERS OF THEIR CABINET TO
CHINA BECAUSE THEY NEED
ASSISTANCE AND THEY ARE -- THE
HAD HAVE A COMMON ENEMY.
THAT IS THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA, MUCH AS RUSSIA DONE.
THAT’S WHY IRAN IS PROVIDING
DRONES TO ASSIST RUSSIA.
AND IRAN IS PROVIDING FUEL OIL
TO CHINA.
CHINA IS HELPING TO SUSTAINED
IRAN BY BUYING THAT OIL FOR
SURE.
AND BY THE WAY, CHINA’S
COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON A MIDDLE
EAST OIL, 62% OF IT COMES OUT OF
THE MIDDLE EAST.
BUT, YES, IRAN HAS A
RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA AND IT’S
NOT SURPRISING.
MOSTLY BECAUSE OF UNITED STATES
IS AN ADVERSARY OF BOTH
COUNTRIES.
MARIA: YEAH.
REALLY FASCINATING TO WATCH THIS
CHESS GAME BUT, GENERAL,
OBVIOUSLY THESE TWO HAVE THAT
COMMON INTEREST AND WE’LL FIND
OUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS
MEETING.
GENERAL, IT’S ALWAYS A PLEASURE
TO SEE YOU.
THANKS VERY MUCH.
WE’LL ALSO KEEP A SPOT LIGHT ON
WHAT’S GOING ON IN THE U.K. WITH
THE HEAD OF THAT XINJIANG