>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY MY GUESTS TONIGHT ARE
THE HOSTS OF ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR PODCASTS IN THE WORLD.
FROM "POD SAVE AMERICA," PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW,"
JON FAVREAU, JON LOVETT AND TOMMY VIETO.
GENTLEMEN, NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
DID YOU WATCH THE R.N.C.
TONIGHT?
>> UNFORTUNATELY.
>> Stephen: OKAY.
WHAT STOOD OUT TO YOU?
>> I MEAN, BASICALLY THE MESSAGE WAS AMERICA IS A VIOLENT,
CHAOTIC PLACE.
GIVE US FOUR MORE YEARS.
( LAUGHTER ) A LITTLE INCONGRUENT.
>> IT FELT LIKE AN EVENT FOR FOX NEWS AUDIENCE.
DO YOU WANT TO LARRY THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC?
THEY ACTED LIKE WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL ONLY 1 175,000 PEOPLE E
DEAD AND DIDN'T LAY OUT A PLAN TO GET US BACK TO NORMAL SNOOP
DID YOU SEE ANYTHING IN THERE BEYOND THE BAKERS ANY KIND OF
OUTREACH?
BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHO ISN'T ALREADY VOTING FOR DONALD TRUMP
WHO WOULD BE SWAYED BY ANYTHING I SAW TONIGHT.
>> IT WAS OBVIOUSLY AN INCREDIBLE ATTEMPT TO REACH OUT
TO PEOPLE.
THEY HAD THE FAMOUS GUN COUPLE.
THAT WAS A MOVING BIT OF WHAT MAKES AMERICA GREAT WHICH IS
ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE WHITE AND RICH AND YOU'RE AFRAID, YOU CAN DO
ANYTHING YOU WANT, ANYTHING IS JUSTIFIED, THERE'S NOTHING THAT
IS NOT ALLOWED.
THAT WAS THE MESSAGE, AND I THINK IT RESONATED FOR A LOT OF
PEOPLE.
>> YEAH, IT SENT A MESSAGE THAT A.K. AND A.K.-47 STANDS FOR ALL
KHAKIS.
>> ALL KHAKI.
>> Stephen: HOW WOULD YOU COMPARE TO THE D.N.C. FROM LAST
WEEK?
DID YOU COMPARE THE TWO MESSAGES?
OBJECTIVELY FROM YOUR OBJECTIVE POSITION.
>> I THINK THE GOAL OF THE D.N.C. WAS TO, YOU KNOW, TESTIFY
TO JOE BIDEN'S CHARACTER.
LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY BE SUPPORTING JOE BIDEN BECAUSE
HE'S NOT DONALD TRUMP, SO THE D.N.C. WAND TO TELL PEOPLE, THIS
IS WHO JOE BIDEN, IS THIS IS HIS CHARACTER, WHAT HE BELIEVES IN
AND TRY TO HUMANIZE HIM.
I DON'T KNOW THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION CONVINCED
DONALD TRUMP IS HUMAN.
>> LIKE DAD TOLD HIM SOME SETBACK WAS GOING TO BE OKAY AND
GAVE HIM A BIG HUG AND PICKED HIM UP.
DON LOOKED LIKE HE WAS GOING TO CRY ON THE SPEECH.
IT WAS NOT A VERY UPLIFTING EVENT.
>> Stephen: HE WAS IN THE BLAST ZONE OF KIMBERLY
GUILFOYLE'S SPEECH.
THAT MIGHT HAVE RATTLED HIM TO HIS CORE.
DID YOU SEE KIMBERLY'S SPEECH?
>> WHAT WAS CHAOS.
Y WAS THAT THE TAKE?
YOU ADOPTED KNOW WHAT TAKES THEY LEFT ON THE GROUND.
THAT WAS HER OUT OF FOUR.
SHE WAS YELLING LIKE SHE WAS IN THE BALCONY OF A PALACE.
>> SEND IT IN, PERFECT.
I DON'T KNOW -- >> Stephen: IT WAS VERY
MUCH -- YES.
DON'T CRY FOR ME.
>> YES, IT WAS A REAL PARONE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIM AND DON, JR. TOOK BEFORE THEY GAVE THEIR
SPEECHES BUT I DON'T THINK IT CURED CORONAVIRUS.
THAT IS ALL I WILL SAY.
>> Stephen: THE ADDERALL DOES NOT FALL FAR FROM THE TREE.
( LAUGHTER ) WHAT SHOULD WE BE WORRIED ABOUT
THIS WEEK?
WE'VE ENDURED NIGHT ONE.
WHAT ARE YOU NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO FOR THE NEXT THREE NIGHTS?
>> ALL OF IT.
I MEAN, I THINK THE ONE THING TO WATCH IS, LIKE, I WOULD NOT
BE SURPRISED IF BY THE END OF THE WEEK TRUMP CLAWED BACK SOME
OF THE TRUMP VOTERS FROM 2016 THAT HE MAY HAVE LOST.
IT COULD ENERGIZE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE MOVING AWAY FROM HIM
BUT BEYOND THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW IT REACHES ANYONE ELSE.
>> IT'S AN EASIER JOB.
THE NEGATIVE ATTACKS WILL HURT JOE BIDEN AND IT MIGHT MAKE
PEOPLE SAY I HATE POLITICS, I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE OR TUNE THIS
OUT.
THAT MAKES THEIR JOB EASIER.
THEIR JOB IS ABOUT VOTER SUPPRESSION AND MAKES IT A
LITTLE EASIER.
>> Stephen: YEAH, NOBODY NEEDS TO WATCH THE REPUBLICAN
CONVENTION THIS WEEK.
JUST WATCH ME, I'LL GIVE YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: EVEN THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE LOWLIGHTS.
IT WILL BE GREAT.
OKAY.
THIS IS CBS, YOU CAN'T GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE STORY.
BUT CALL ME.
( LAUGHTER ) OKAY.
YOU'RE FORMER OBAMA GUYS.
I THINK YOUR BOSS DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB.
THAT GUY KNOWS HOW TO TALK.
WHAT DID YOU THINK OF HIS SPEECH?
>> I LOVED IT BUT I WAS ALSO SURPRISED BY HOW EMOTIONAL HE
GOT DELIVERING IT BECAUSE HE USUALLY DOESN'T GET THAT
EMOTIONAL.
>> Stephen: OH, MY GOD I COUNTED FOUR OF THESE.
FOUR BIG SIGHS.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: USUALLY, HE DOESN'T FILL THE PAUSES.
THAT WAS LIKE HIM SCREAMING.
>> YEAH.
IT MEANT A LOT.
. I THINK HE GOT EMOTIONAL DURING PROBABLY THE MOST HOPEFUL
PART OF THE SPEECH BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO SAY, AFTER TALKING
ABOUT THIS COUNTRY'S HISTORY OF SLAVERY AND RACISM, HE'S SAYING
BLACK AMERICANS DIDN'T GIVE UP ON DEMOCRACY DURING THAT AND WE
SHOULDN'T GIVE UP ON DEMOCRACY NOW.
IT WAS A FUNDAMENTALLY HOPEFUL MESSAGE, I THOUGHT.
>> Stephen: DID YOU WRITE ANY OF IT?
>> I LOOKED AT IT.
HE WROTE THAT ONE.
>> Stephen: I LOOKED AT IT.
PEAKING OF JERRY FALWELL, JR. --
( LAUGHTER ) >> MY GOD...
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: HEY, DO NOT SHAME.
DON'T YOU SHAME!
>> DON'T YOU SHAME ME FOR SUGGESTING I'M SHAMING.
I'M NOT SHAMING ANYBODY.
>> Stephen: YOU'RE CELEBRATING IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
GOOD FOR YOU!
OKAY.
HOW ABOUT JOE BIDEN?
LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE CROSSING THEMSELVES
GOING, JUST LAND THIS ONE, JOE.
WHAT DID THEY GRIND UP AND INJECT INTO HIM?
LIKE, THIS WAS THE OLD JOE!
>> HE DID A GREAT JOB.
THEY LOWERED -- DONALD TRUMP, THEY'VE DONE A TERRIFIC JOB OF
LOWERING EXPECTATIONS TO THE POINT WHERE IF HE JUST SHOWED UP
AND THERE WAS NO PEA SOUP ON HIS TIE, HE OBVIOUSLY EXCEEDED THOSE
EXPECTATIONS.
I THINK JOE GAVE HIM A SOLID 1950s UNCUT JEER TOLL AND HE
WENT OUT THERE AND CRUSHED IT AND SUCCEEDED.
HE DIDN'T JUST MEET THE LOW EXPECTATIONS TRUMP AND HIS
ALLIES SET.
HE DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB GIVING THE SPEECH.
>> Stephen: AND THE NEXT DAY IS MIRROR.
WHAT'S HE BEEN DOING, ROPE-A-DOPING AND COMES OUT
BLAZING?
IT'S GREAT TO SEE.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE D.N.C. WAS LIGHT ON
POLICY.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S A VALID CRITIQUE?
DID IT HAVE TO BE SO THEY COULD FOLKS MORE ON CHARACTER?
>> I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TELL A LARGER STORY ABOUT JOE BIDEN'S
CHICK PLANS AND RECORD, BUT I THINK IT'S ABOUT SEQUENCING.
FIRST, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHO JOE BIDEN IS, HIS CHARACTER,
HIS VALUES, WHAT MADE HIM THE POLITICIAN THAT HE IS TODAY,
THAT MAKES YOU BELIEVE HIM WHEN HE TELL US WHAT HE'S GOING TO
DO, WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND HE'S FROM SCRANTON, YOU UNDERSTAND
THE MIDDLE CLASS ROOTS.
YOU NEED THAT CREDENTIAL TO BELIEVE THE POLICY PLANS.
EVERY POLITICIAN HAS POLICY PLANS, NOT NAMING TRUMP.
>> Stephen: YOU GUYS, WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
MORE WHEN WE COME BACK.
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