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>>> BUT WE BEGIN THE SHOW WITH
A DISTURBING ACCUSATION AGAINST
THE VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE
ACTUALLY CHARGED WITH
PROTECTING TOP LEADERS, THE
SECRET SERVICE.
THEY ARE ACCUSED OF DELETING
TEXT MESSAGES FROM JANUARY 5
AND JANUARY 6, AFTER THEY WERE
ASKED TO TURN THEM OVER TO
GOVERNMENT WATCHDOGS.
THE INSPECTOR GENERAL SENT A
LETTER TO BOTH THE HOUSE AND
SENATE HOMELAND SECURITY
COMMITTEES THIS WEEK, SOUNDING
THE ALARM.
HE SAYS THAT AFTER HIS OFFICE
REQUESTING FULL ELECTRONIC
RECORDS FOR AN EVALUATION OF
THE CAPITAL ATTACKED.
THE SECRET SERVICE PERMANENTLY
ERASED A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF
TEXT MESSAGES FROM THAT EXACT
TIME PERIOD.
AND BC OBTAINED A COPY OF THE
LETTER.
A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE SECRET SERVICE DENIES ANY MESSAGES
SERVICE DENIES ANY MESSAGES
WERE MALICIOUSLY ERASED . IT IS
STATEMENT, HE WROTE, IN JANUARY
2021, BEFORE ANY INSPECTION WAS
OPENED BY THE OIG ON THE
SUBJECT, THE SECRET SERVICE
BEGAN TO RESET ITS MOBILE
PHONES TO FACTORY SETTINGS AS
PART OF A PREPLANNED THREE-
MONTH SYSTEM MIGRATION.
OF THE PROCESS, DATA ON SOME
PHONES WAS LOST.
HE WENT ON TO SAY THAT, IN
FACT, THE SECRET SERVICE HAS
BEEN FULLY COOPERATIVE WITH DHS
INVESTIGATORS ON ALL MATTERS.
THE STORY STARTED OFF IS OUR
FORMER F.B.I.
KNOWN FOR HIS ROLE IN THE MOLAR
PROBE.
AND AS A FORMER PROSECUTOR, WHEN YOU HEAR THAT?
WHEN YOU HEAR THAT?
COINCIDENTALLY, TEXT MESSAGES
FROM JANUARY FOR THE JANUARY 6,
2021 WERE DELETED SOMEHOW, DOES
THAT.
UP YOUR EARS?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
YOU HAVE TO ALSO CONSIDER THAT
WE HAVE ALSO HEARD THAT THE
WHITE HOUSE HAS CONVENIENTLY
HAD A GAP IN ITS PHONE LOGS. IT
JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THE GAP IS
FOR EITHER JANUARY 5 OR JANUARY
6. WE ALL KNOW THOSE DATES HAVE
MEETING, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT
OF WHAT CASSIDY HUTCHINSON
TESTIFIED TO ABOUT WHAT SHE
HEARD HAD BEEN HAPPENING WITH
THE SECRET SERVICE TAKING
DONALD TRUMP FROM THE ELLIPSE. BUT I DO THINK IT IS WORTH
BUT I DO THINK IT IS WORTH
TAKING A DEEP BREATH.
THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE IT
SHOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, IF IT IS
INTERESTED, AND CERTAINLY
CONGRESS, TO GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF IT.
THE SECRET SERVICE SAYS THIS IS
ROUTINE AND WASN'T DONE IN
RESPONSE TO ANYTHING.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT WAS A
ROUTINE UPGRADE.
IF THAT IS TRUE, THERE SHOULD
BE A BACKUP FOR EVERYTHING, AND
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PRODUCE
EVERYTHING.
I THINK THIS IS ONE WHERE WE
HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A
PAUSE AND SEE WHAT THE FACTS
ACTUALLY PLAY OUT TO BE.
IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THEY
CANNOT PRODUCE ALL THE TEXT AND
EMAILS FOR THOSE DATES, THAT I
THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, MY ANTENNA
GO WAY UP AS TO HOW THAT
HAPPENED AND WHO WAS
RESPONSIBLE.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE
TALKING ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE
JANUARY 6 HEARINGS IS, YOU KNOW,
WHAT IS THE DOJ DOING?
WE ARE WATCHING THE COMMITTEE
IN CONGRESS GO METHODICALLY
THROUGH THEIR PRESENTATION.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY
INSIGHTS INTO WHAT THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS DOING,
OTHER THAN ISOLATED REPORTING
ABOUT SUBPOENAS.
YOU HAVE A CAREER AS A PROSECUTOR GOING AFTER THESE
PROSECUTOR GOING AFTER THESE
BIG ORGANIZATIONS LIKE ENRON,
BIG CONSPIRACY CASES, GOING
FROM THE BOTTOM UP.
YOU RECENTLY WROTE THAT IT IS
ACTUALLY THE WRONG APPROACH FOR INVESTIGATING THE JANUARY 6
INVESTIGATING THE JANUARY 6
INSURRECTION, SEEING THE ATTACK
ON THE CAPITOL AS A SINGLE
EVENT SEPARATE FROM OTHER
EFFORTS RIGHT DONALD TRUMP AND
HIS ALLIES TO OVERTURN THE
ELECTION.
WE STARTED OFF TALKING ABOUT
THE BREAKING NEWS WITH THE
SECRET SERVICE, BUT I THINK EACH INDIVIDUAL REPORT GOES TO
EACH INDIVIDUAL REPORT GOES TO
THE FACT THAT THE JANUARY 6
ATTACK LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT IN
LIGHT OF EACH NEW PIECE OF
INFORMATION.
MAYBE IT SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED
THAT WAY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THAT WAS THE POINT OF WHAT MY
OP-ED WAS ABOUT.
THESE THINGS CAN'T BE
INVESTIGATED IN ISOLATION.
IT IS NOT LIKE THE DEPARTMENT
IS DOING NOTHING. OBVIOUSLY, IT IS FOCUSING ON THE HUNDREDS OF
IS FOCUSING ON THE HUNDREDS OF
PEOPLE WHO ATTACKED THE CAPITOL
ON THAT DAY, BUT TO LOOK AT
THAT IN ISOLATION OF ALL OF THE
OTHER THINGS WE HAVE LEARNED
FROM THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE
HEARINGS, WHICH IS WHAT WAS
GOING ON WITH THE PRESIDENT
INTERFERING WITH THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE, INTERFERING IN
GEORGIA, WITH THE ELECTORS, SO
MANY DIFFERENT ASPECTS, THOSE
AREN'T ISOLATED FROM ONE
ANOTHER.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE
PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT DONALD
TRUMP WAS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH,
THOSE ARE ALL PART OF A PLAN.
IT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED
THAT WAY.
THAT IS HOW THINGS ARE
INVESTIGATED USUALLY IF YOU'RE
LOOKING AT ENRON OR THE MOB
ORBIT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL.
I DO THINK THIS IS AN AREA
WHERE WE DO EXPECT, AND SHOULD
EXPECT, CITIZENS TO SEE MORE
ACTION BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE LOOKING AT THIS
HOLISTICALLY, RATHER THAN ISOLATED EVENTS.
ISOLATED EVENTS.
>> THE OTHER THING YOU
MENTIONED IN YOUR PIECE IS THE
FACT THAT, IN YOUR PREVIOUS
INVESTIGATIONS, IT WASN'T AS IF
YOU WERE NOT GOING TO GO AFTER
THE TOP PEOPLE IN THESE
ORGANIZATIONS JUST BECAUSE THAT
MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE DIFFICULT
OR CONTROVERSIAL, AND YOU DID
WORK BOTTOM-UP, BUT YOU MAKE
SURE TO GET TO THE TOP.
ONE OF THE FREQUENT LINES IN
THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT PEOPLE
ARE PUTTING SO IT IS, THE DOJ
WANTS TO AVOID LOOKING LIKE
THEY ARE BEING PERSUADED BY THE
POLITICS OF THIS PARTICULAR
MOMENT.
SPEAK TO WHY IT IS INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO VERY
SERIOUSLY GO ALL THE WAY UP THE
LINE TO DONALD TRUMP.
GIVEN WHAT THE COMMITTEE HAS
LAID OUT SO FAR.
>> I COULDN'T AGREE MORE THAT
IT IS IMPORTANT.
THE NORMAL CRITICISM OF
INVESTIGATING A FORMER
PRESIDENT IS THAT WE WILL LOOK
LIKE A BANANA REPUBLIC, AND WE
WILL BE POLITICIZING THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WHEN YOU
HAVE FACTUAL PREDICATION FOR
SERIOUS CRIMINAL CASES, WE LOOK
POLITICAL AND LIKE A BANANA
REPUBLIC FOR NOT INVESTIGATING
THAT CONDUCT.
IF YOU HAVE A FORMER PRESIDENT
DOING THE UNTHINKABLE, WHICH IS
TRYING TO UNDERMINE A
DEMOCRATIC ELECTION FOR THE PRESIDENT, AND CONDONING, NOT
PRESIDENT, AND CONDONING, NOT
JUST PILOTS, BUT VIOLENCE THAT
WOULD INCLUDE PEOPLE CALLING
FOR HANGING THE VICE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES, THE IDEA
THAT THAT WOULD NOT ENGENDER AN
INVESTIGATION, AND A SERIOUS
ONE, UNDERTAKEN WITH ALL
ALACRITY AND COMPLETE FAIRNESS,
BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO LOOK
POLITICAL, I THINK THAT TURNS
US INTO A BANANA REPUBLIC.
I THINK THAT IS ONE WHERE IT
DOES TAKE GREAT FORTITUDE.
THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THIS
IS A SINGULAR MOMENT FOR THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED
STATES, BUT SOMETIMES THE TIMES
CALL ON YOU TO DO YOUR JOB AND
TO DO WHAT CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT
. WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE DOING
THE RIGHT THING, THAT IS
USUALLY THE WAY TO RESPOND TO
PEOPLE WHO WILL CRITICIZE YOU
FOR BEING POLITICAL.
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