I saw a
poll this week that
80% of the people in this country
have a family member
or friend who has died or been injured.
And of each of those people,
they each know seven people who have died
or been injured.
This is truly incomprehensible trauma
for many around the world
to even comprehend.
Mr. President,
how do you help people?
Because they
they tell us they look to you
that you represent for them
these values of freedom
and democracy that they're fighting for.
How do you help them bear this terrible
burden of loss
nor study to give them iron.
We don't have 100% efficient medicine
in this situation.
And when we are looking for a medicine
or support
for people in order to somehow
find a substitution for their loss,
I think this is all just a lie.
Because when you lost your near and dear,
what could substitute your loss?
Warm words, money, some support,
maybe a psychological one.
All of this
still cannot patch up that hole
in the middle of a person.
Nobody will substitute the love
that Putin and his army took away
so you can just be near them.
And with those people fight
and definitely do not forgive
those who took all of this away.
Despite the fact that we don't have
a coordinated plan
on the tribunal in the world.
But you yourself have to know
that those people need justice
to Burridge relatively day.
But even if we won't find justice
for all these murderers
later on,
justice for Ukraine through the sentences
for all these murderers,
with this space inside, people
will be filled with hatred and revenge
and then not with each one stop.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Is there
is there ever
forgiveness for the Ukrainians
who were in occupied territory
who may have collaborated
or may have gone along with
the Russians?
And maybe they'll say they felt
they had no choice but to unite Ukraine?
Will there be forgiveness
gladness of whom would have suspicion
the most are the most difficult situation
will be happening in the society
because you need time for everything.
Sometimes time heals.
And as I mentioned, the justice
heals, too, I'm convinced.
But the sentences should be happening.
People should know if you were a murderer
and was fighting against Ukraine,
you will be sentence
even if you were made
by force to kill Ukrainians,
you will be answering for your deeds.
Nobody will forgive you
and you won't be able
to explain all of this.
However, those who were under occupation
and were not fighting
on the side of the enemy,
they are Ukrainians.
In any case, time
we'll answer those questions
and so will our law.
Enforcement agencies.
When you work on, it's a problem.
We have our interior minister,
which is working now
on the security platform
for the temporary occupied territories
There will be answers
to this question, too.
You know, you live every day
knowing in a very tangible way
you and many other Ukrainians
that you may die in a very tangible way
in the first few weeks of the war.
Ukrainian intelligence said
that you had survived
a dozen assassination attempts.
And who knows since then, right.
It's not something to even track.
But how does knowing that you are,
as many say,
one of the top targets
in this world for for death?
How does that impact how you live?
Mr. President?
No, you don't.
You actually just.
I'll be honest with you
until you I've decided
if I will be thinking about it
constantly, I will just shut myself down.
Very much like Putin now,
who doesn't leave his bunker,
if I will isolate myself,
I won't understand
what's going on around me in the country.
I will lose the connection with society.
And if I lose this connection
with lose the society, I'm
convinced that society
has to see if they are at risk.
Their president is at risk, too, together
with them.
Of course,
they understand
that I have protection, etc.
but I have to be
on the same side with my people.
You know,
you can get yourself into a cage
like an animal
and chain yourself there
constantly thinking that you are
just about to get killed.
Of course,
my bodyguards should think of
how to prevent this from happening.
Not doing.
And this is their task.
I don't think about it.
Clearly,
those sabotage groups might be back again
and try to get rid of me.
That was the objective in all wars.
They wanted to get rid of leaders
of thought crime
leaders of countries,
all sorts of motivators.
So I leave this to the professionals,
and I will free my mind
to resolve the strategic issues
they do do my professional there.
I met with an infantry soldier named Vlad
the other day.
He was a history teacher before the war.
He is fighting now on the front line.
There's oppression
and he has not seen his wife
or his children in a year.
But he said it's okay.
He's waiting for victory.
He was he was he was fine to wait.
But it's been a year
And when you talk about needing Biden
to say something now, I wonder, Mr.
President,
how long can your troops
keep fighting like they are now?
The last we get
it depends
on some things which we both understand.
It depends on support
with weapons from our partners,
depends on financial support.
But any kind of support
with energy
supplies, sanctions, yet
it all depends on the moral obligations
and political decisions
and political will of our partners.
The Ukrainian motivation
will not diminish
museum of tragedy, of tragedies.
What can we lose?
We can lose everything.
What can we gain?
We can gain victory.
What is our victory?
It means returning everything of our own.
That's why
we don't have it any other way.
How can we lose our motivation
when willing to survive?
We defend our common values,
democracy and freedom.
But in our case, freedom and democracy.
Are not just words.
In our case, this is our life.
We are in Odessa now,
and if we won't defend our coastline,
the Russians will be here tomorrow.
And we won't have our seas.
If we won't have our sea,
we won't have any logistical way
to sell and grow our crops.
So we will be losing our country.
So we are fighting in order
not to be a desert.
The crew
the crew come through the rubble.
I know when I talk about Vlad
not seeing his children,
I know that you aren't
as president,
you're not able to live
with your own children
like so many of your soldiers
on the front lines.
Mr.
President, when people see you, they see
maybe a loneliness,
a loneliness that so many here feel
you feel to that,
that you are also suffering.
How do you manage that pain?
As boredom
With some pain.
Yet it's not a pain,
which was in the first days
of the invasion.
I experienced pain
when I saw with my own eyes
the consequences of occupation
and butcher and other places.
It was a pain
as I was just trying
to understand
what we should do to prevent all this
It's not a real.
And we cannot rewind things.
We cannot retake this or that frame.
This is not a film.
This is a reality.
That was my pain
for all the losses we had.
But today, it's not a pain.
It's a big obligation
and respect
for those who are no longer with us.
This is an obligation
to stand here
until the end and rebuild
what people were dying for.
Rebuild a peaceful life in Ukraine.
The nine year old shits
and I suggest if we give
what is most valuable for us, our life
and our time with children,
which you just mentioned.
Okay.
Maybe another half a year or a year.
Let's think it will happen sooner.
And after that, our life will go on.
The life of our children will go on.
If we give up now,
we'll have a complete exile.
As we will lose everything for sure.
And our children will go elsewhere.
It's just those who can will escape
and those who can't will just die here.
That's why we have to stay and fight.
The world should understand
that we are fighting
for our common values.
Because Putin won't stop here.
He will go further.
It wasn't just rumors
when I was saying
that he will go to Poland
and the Baltic states you will see.
He will go further.
We can lose it if once
in a while and then have to.
When he was transferring the Vogtle
rights to Belarus
and frightening the Poles,
when the Lithuanians
at first he is intimidating them
but give him an opportunity
to grow his force,
lose Ukraine, and he will go further
and Naito will decide then what to do.