DOING
DOING THIS FOR TWENTY TWO YEARS. FAMILIES I HAVE SOME THAT COMES IN AT SIX O'CLOCK IN
THE MORNING THAT WORKS AT EIGHT
THIRTY AT NIGHT I HAVE
SOMETHING COMES THIRTY TO
TWELVE THIRTY. I HAVE SOME THAT
COMES IN OVERNIGHT. I SEE A LOT
OF PANELS COME IN AND BREAK
DOWN THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THIS
BUT THEY NEED TO WORK AND TAKE
CARE. DAPHNE, I'LL SEE YOU
LATER. ALL RIGHT BABY HAVE A
GOOD DAY. BE CAREFUL. THIS IS
THE WAY THE WORLD IS SET UP AT
THIS POINT. THAT IS A TIMELY
LOOK AT AN ISSUE A LOT OF
PARENTS ARE FACING RIGHT NOW.
CHILD CARE IT'S SOMETHING WE
DEPEND ON SO WE CAN GO TO WORK
AND SUPPORT OUR FAMILY THROUGH
THE NIGHT TAKES A CLOSER LOOK.
THREE WORKING MOTHERS INTO
CHILD CARE THEY DEPEND ON US
AND A SCREENS NEXT WEEK DURING
THE HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH FILM
FESTIVAL. AND THIS MORNING
DIRECTOR AND PRODUCER OF
THROUGH THE NIGHT LLOYD LIMBO
JOINS US ALONG WITH SENIOR
RESEARCHER AND ADVOCATE OF
POVERTY AND INEQUALITY AT HUMAN
RIGHTS WATCH NINA SIMONE. GOOD
MORNING TO YOU LADIES. THANKS
SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE FOR THIS
IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. GOOD
MORNING. MOIRA, LET'S START
WITH YOU. YOU'RE A MOM OF TWO.
IS THAT WHAT INSPIRED THROUGH
THE NIGHT? WALK US THROUGH WHAT
WAS BEHIND THIS EFFORT. SURE.
MY PLEASURE. YES, I AM A
MOTHER. I AM ALSO SINGLE
WORKING THERE AND CERTAINLY MY
OWN EXPERIENCES ALONG THIS
JOURNEY WERE PART OF THE
MOTIVATION FOR MAKING THE PHONE
BUT EVEN MORE SO THE MOTIVATION
WAS CONNECTED TO MY OWN
MOTHER'S EXPERIENCE OF RAISING
.MY MOTHER WORKED THE NIGHT
SHIFT WHILE SHE RAISED THE
OLDEST OF FOUR AND SHE YOU KNOW
SHE RAISED US IN NEW YORK CITY
WORKING A LOW WAGE JOB. AND I
RECALL JUST HOW DIFFICULT IT
WAS, YOU KNOW, FOR HER TO
PROVIDE FOR US AND ALL THE MANY
WAYS THAT SHE HAD TO. GIVEN THE
LACK OF SUPPORT THAT SHE HAD.
SO WHEN I FIRST READ THE
ARTICLE THAT PROFILED THESE
TAGS, THE DAYCARE FEATURED IN
SOME IT AUTOMATICALLY BROUGHT
ME BACK TO MY CHILDHOOD AND
MADE ME THINK OF MY MOTHER AND
ALL THE WOMEN IN MY COMMUNITY
THAT I KNOW ARE HAVING TO MAKE
IMPOSSIBLE CHOICES EVERY DAY.
AND THAT WAS THE MOTIVATION.
DOES THIS ALSO INCORPORATE THE
ADDITIONAL STRUGGLES THAT
PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH
COVERED RIGHT NOW? SO THE FILM
WAS COMPLETELY DONE BEFORE THEY
GOT IT WHICH I THINK IS
IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT BEFORE
THE CRISIS THERE WAS A CRISIS,
RIGHT? RIGHT. IT'S EVEN WORSE
MANY PEOPLE. YES. AND IN THIS
MOMENT SO MANY MORE PEOPLE ARE
AFFECTED AND SO YOU KNOW, WE
ARE ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT SO SORT
OF YOU KNOW, NO ONE HAS GONE
GONE UNTOUCHED. BUT THIS REALLY
HAS BEEN THE REALITY FOR SO
MANY WORKING CLASS FAMILIES AND
PARTICULARLY COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR FOR A REALLY, REALLY LONG
TIME. AND SO YES. BUT IN THAT
19 CONTEXT I WOULD SAY EVERYONE
IN THE FILM AND SOCIAL WORKER
AND THEY HAVE BEEN QUITE
LITERALLY ON THE FRONTLINES OF
THE PANDEMIC WORKING THE WHOLE
TIME. SOUL, WHO IS ONE OF THE
MOTHERS FEATURED IN THE FILM
WORKS FOR A SUPERMARKET
SUPPLIER AND HAS BEEN WORKING
SIX, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK
THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC SHOULD
NOT NOT IS A PEDIATRIC E.R.
NURSE AND WORKING AND NO AND
PATRICK ARE AMONG THE FEW
DAYCARE PROVIDERS THAT HAVE NOT
CLOSED THEIR DOORS PRECISELY
BECAUSE THEY ARE CARING FOR THE
CHILDREN OF ESSENTIAL WORKING
FAMILIES. SO YES, I'LL BRING
NINA INTO THE CONVERSATION
HERE. YOU WORK AT HUMAN RIGHTS
WATCH. DO YOU SEE NEEDING THE
MOST HELP AS FAR AS CHILDCARE
SHORTCOMINGS HERE? IS IT THE
PARENTS? IS IT THE CHILD
CAREGIVERS? IS IT A LITTLE BIT
OF BOTH? YEAH, I THINK IT'S A
LITTLE BIT OF BOTH BECAUSE WHAT
WE REALLY SEE IN THE FILM IN A
VERY POWERFUL WAY IS ON THE ONE
SIDE THE STRUGGLES OF PARENTS
WHO WORK MULTIPLE JOBS, MANY OF
THEM ARE LOW PAID AND MANY OF
THEM DON'T HAVE ANY BENEFITS.
RIGHT. I THINK FOR INSTANCE,
THE STORY OF MONEY SIDE SHOWS
THAT THE EMPLOYER PURPOSEFULLY
KEEPS HER BELOW A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF HOURS SO SHE DOESN'T
GET THE BENEFITS SHE NEEDS. AND
SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A REFORM
OF THE SAFETY THAT EVERY WORKER
HAS ACCESS TO THESE TYPES OF
SERVICES IN ORDER TO NOT
EXCLUDE THEM FROM FROM THE
SYSTEM. BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE
YOU ALSO SEE THAT CARE GIVERS.
SO SO CHILD CARE WORKERS BUT IN
GENERAL CARE WORKERS ARE VERY
LOW PAID AND MANY OF THEM
CANNOT SUPPORT CANNOT EVEN
AFFORD TAKE IT THEMSELVES.
RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE
STORY IS THAT WHEN A FIRM IT
COMES OUT VERY STRONGLY THAT
THE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW,
CREATED THE DATE THE 24 HOUR
CENTER IS BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T
AFFORD TAKE HER CARE FOR HER
OWN KIDS. RIGHT. SO IT REALLY
SPEAKS TO SO MANY FLOORS OF THE
SAFETY NET IN THIS COUNTRY AND
ALSO OF THE STRUGGLES OF LOW
WAGE WORKERS. SO A REALLY ROUGH
REFORM OF RAISING THE MINIMUM
WAGE WHICH IS NOW A HUGE
DISCUSSION IS REALLY ON POINT.
WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO WALK
AWAY WITH VIEWERS TO WALK AWAY
WITH WHEN THEY SEE THIS? ALEX
LOOKS LIKE WE LOST LLOYD AUDIO
THERE. LLOYD, IF YOU CAN HEAR
US, YOU'RE ON ME. THERE YOU GO.
YES, I WAS ON MUTE BECAUSE MY
CHILDREN ARE RUNNING AROUND BUT
THAT'S PART OF THE STRUGGLE
RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN GET IT HAS
THE YELLING. YOU SAY VIEWERS. I
IMMEDIATELY THINK ABOUT
DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. I'M
SAYING I THINK ABOUT THE FOLKS
THAT ARE IN THE FILM
THEMSELVES, THE PROTAGONISTS OF
THE. AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE KIND
OF PEERS AND OTHER COMMUNITY
MEMBERS. AND FOR THOSE
COMMUNITIES I SEE MYSELF AS
BEING A PART OF PARTICULARLY
BLACK AND LATINO WORKING CLASS
COMMUNITIES. I WANT THE WHEREAS
TO HOPEFULLY FEED THEMSELVES
AND THEIR EVERYDAY LIVES
REFLECTED WITH CARE. AND TO
FEEL THAT YOU KNOW, JUST TO
FEEL A SENSE OF AFFIRMATION AND
IT'S A PERHAPS A BIT CLICHE TO
SAY BUT TO SORT OF FEEL LESS
ALONE I THINK IN MANY WAYS
PARTICULARLY AROUND MOTHERING.
THERE'S SO MUCH GUILT THAT WE
EXPERIENCE FOR SO MANY
DIFFERENT REASONS AND SHAME.
AND I HOPE THAT FOR OUR
COMMUNITIES WE CAN SEE THE FILM
AND SEE THAT WE ARE STRUGGLING
AND THINGS ARE REALLY
DIFFICULT. BUT THAT'S NOT DUE
TO ANY PERSONAL SHORTCOMINGS.
RIGHT? IT'S ACTUALLY DUE TO
STRUCTURAL INEQUALITY AND
INJUSTICE. SO THAT'S YOU KNOW,
I HOPE THAT PEOPLE FEEL
AFFIRMED AND THAT THE FILM
SERVES AS A BOMB IN SOME WAYS
AND FOR OTHER FOLKS WHO YOU
KNOW MIGHT NOT BE SO CLOSE TO
THIS UNIVERSE, TO THIS REALITY.
I DO HOPE IT SERVES AS A WAKEUP
CALL AGAIN TO UNDERSTAND THAT
IN MANY WAYS THE CRISIS AROUND
COLGAN 19 IN THE UNITED STATES
IS AS BAD AS IT IS BECAUSE
EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD IN PLACE
BEFORE IT WAS ALREADY SO CRUEL
AND UNSUSTAINABLE HAD WE HAD
OTHER IF WE HAD A SAFETY NET IN
PLACE, IF WE HAD A MORE
EQUITABLE SOCIETY. I THINK THE
PICTURE IN THE UNITED STATES
WILL LOOK VERY DIFFERENT RIGHT
NOW THROUGH THE NINE OTHERS
THAT YOU KNOW IN MANY WAYS. I
THINK THERE'S JUST NO WAY
FORWARD. THERE IS NO RECOVERY
IF WE DON'T REALLY KIND OF LOOK
AT THESE ISSUES AND CENTER THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST DIRECTLY
IMPACTED BY ALL THROUGH THE
NIGHT. IT'S ONE OF THE FILMS
ONE OF THE STORIES BEING
FEATURED DURING THE HUMAN
RIGHTS WATCH FILM FESTIVAL AND
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