>>> NEARLY FIVE MONTHS AFTER
TRUMP SUPPORTERS STORMED THE
CAPITOL AND THREATENED TO HANG
MIKE PENCE, THE FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT BROKE HIS SILENCE ON
THE TOPIC TONIGHT.
HERES WHAT HE FINALLY HAD TO
SAY.
>> JANUARY 6th WAS A DARK DAY IN
THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES
CAPITOL, AND THAT SAME DAY WE
RECONVENED THE CONGRESS AND DID
OUR DUTY UNDER THE CONSTITUTION
AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED
STATES.
YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I
HAVE SPOKEN MANY TIMES SINCE WE
LEFT OFFICE.
AND I DONT KNOW IF WELL EVER
SEE EYE TO EYE ON THAT DAY.
BUT I WILL ALWAYS BE PROUD OF
WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE OVER THE LAST
FOUR YEARS.
AND I WILL NOT ALLOW DEMOCRATS
OR THEIR ALLIES IN THE MEDIA TO
USE ONE TRAGIC DAY TO DISCREDIT
THE ASPIRATIONS OF MILLIONS OF
AMERICANS.
>> LETS NOT FORGET WHILE THE
CAPITAL SIEGE WAS UNDER WAY AND
MIKE PENCE WAS BEING RUSHED FROM
THE BUILDING BY THE SECRET
SERVICE, THE FORMER PRESIDENT
WAS CALLING HIM A COWARD FOR
DOING THAT CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY
HE NOW TALKS ABOUT.
OBAMA FOUND DAG, AND MICHAEL
STEEL, FORMER LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR OF MARYLAND, ALSO HOST
OF THE MICHAEL STEELE PODCAST.
MICHAEL, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING
FORWARD TO THIS.
THERES NOTHING QUITE LIKE MIKE
PENCE WHEN HE PUTS ON HIS PIOUS
FACE.
HANG MIKE PENCE, SURE.
I DONT THINK WELL EVER SEE EYE
TO EYE ON THE EVENTS OF THAT
DAY.
THIS WAS HIS CHANCE TO DRAW A
LITTLE DISTANCE WITH TRUMP, BUT
NO, HES JUST A BOY STANDING IN
FRONT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE ASKING
THEM TO LOVE HIM.
>>.
[ LAUGHING ]
OH, THAT IS SO WELL PUT.
HES JUST A BOY STANDING NEXT TO
A MAN.
LOOK, SO, IF YOU DONT -- YOU
WONT SEE EYE TO EYE.
SO TELL US WHAT YOU SEE
DIFFERENTLY THAN TRUMP ABOUT
JANUARY 6th.
NOW IM CURIOUSLE YOU WONT SEE
EYE TO EYE ON JANUARY 6th, SO
WHAT DO YOU SEE?
WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENED ON
THAT DAY?
WHAT DO THESE IMAGES SAY TO YOU?
YOU WERE BEING HUSTLED OUT TO AN
UNDISCLOSED LOCATION BECAUSE YOU
WERE UNDER DIRECT THREAT, SO
WHAT DO YOU SEE FROM THAT DAY?
THATS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
AND ITS VERY CLEAR -- YOU DO
THE QUICK PIVOT, ALSO, THE WELL,
WE WONT SEE EYE TO EYE, BUT WE
WONT LET ANYONE DISCREDIT --
THE EVENTS OF THAT TRAGIC DAY
DISCREDIT THE WORK AND EVIDENTSF
OF OUR ADMINISTRATION.
DUDE, REALLY?
IT WAS THE CULMINATION OF THE
CRAP FLOWING OUT OF THE
ADMINISTRATION CERTAINLY THE
LAST SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS ABOUT
THE ELECTIONS.
HOW DO YOU LOOK US IN THE EYE
AND TELL US, THE PRESIDENT AND I
HAD A DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THE
DAY, BUT WE STAND SHOULDER TO
SHOULDER ON EVERYTHING ELSE?
ITS FUNDAMENTAL THAT DAY TO
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS NEXT IN
THE COUNTRY.
THAT WAS A SHORTCOMING FOR THE
VICE PRESIDENT TO SORT OF
APPROACH IT THAT WAY.
>> IF IT WASNT FUNDAMENTAL IT
WILL DO UNTIL FUNDAMENTAL GETS
HERE.
DAVID, THIS IS FROM THE
ATLANTIC.
REPUBLICANS ARE NOT BLOCKING A
JANUARY 6th COMMISSION BECAUSE
THEY FEAR TRUMP OR WANT TO MOVE
ON FROM 2020.
THEYRE BLOCKING A JANUARY 6th
COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY AGREE
WITH THE UNDERLYING IDEOLOGICAL
CLAIM OF THE RIOTERS WHICH IS
THAT DEMOCRATIC ELECTORAL
VICTORIES SHOULD NOT BE
RECOGNIZED.
DAVID, A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT
YOUR PARTY, MEMBER OF YOUR
PARTY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE
MORE URGENCY, A LITTLE MORE
ATTITUDE AND ANGER THESE DAYS?
>> YEAH, BRIAN, BECAUSE ITS ALL
ON THE LINE.
LISTEN, WE NEED TO PASS AN
INFRASTRUCTURE BILL.
WE HAVE CRUMB.
ING ROADS AND BRIDGES, BUT OUR
DEMOCRACY IS CRUMBLING.
ITS TEETERING ON THE EDGE.
I THINK THERES A LOT OF ENERGY
IN WASHINGTON MOONG ELECTS AMONG
OFFICIALS.
FIRST OF ALL ITS A REMARKABLE
PENCE.
ITS LIKE HES SAYING DONALD
TRUMP AND I DIDNT SAY EYE TO
EYE ON THE FACT THAT HE
INSTIGATED AN ASSASSINATION
ATTEMPT AGAINST ME.
ITS UNBELIEVABLE TO SAY.
WHAT WERE SEEING ALL AROUND THE
COUNTRY IN WASHINGTON IS MOST OF
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY GETTING
COMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA THAT
IF THEY RETAIN POWER, WENT BACK
TO THE HOUSE, THE DEMOCRATS
COULD WIN 400 ELECTORAL VOTES.
YOU ONLY HAVE TO BE A CASUAL
STUDENT OF HISTORY TO UNDERSTAND
GREAT POWERS, GREAT EMPIRES
DONT LAST FOREVER.
THATS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.
THIS IS AS SERIOUS AS ANYTHING
WEVE SEEN IN THIS COUNTRY AND I
THINK YOURE EXACTLY RIGHT.
I THINK THEYRE HIDING BEHIND
TRUMP IN A WAY TO ACHIEVE THIS
ULTIMATE AIM, WHICH IS DEMOCRAT
LICHTED VICTORIES SHOULD NOT
COUNT.
AND I THINK THATS WHERE WE ARE
IN AMERICA, AND SO AS IMPORTANT
AS IT, IS TAX RATES AND
INFRASTRUCTURE, IMMIGRATION
REFORM, THESE ARE ALL CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT, AND I HOPE EACH OF
THEM GETS DONE, THE MOST
IMPORTANT ISSUE NOW FACING THE
COUNTRY IN PRETTY GOODS IN
WASHINGTON, DEMOCRATIC
POLITICIANS, IS SAVING THIS
DEMOCRACY.
SENATOR SINEMA, IM GLAD SHE WON
HER RACE IN 2018 BUT SAID TODAY
THE FILIBUSTER IS THERE TO