DANGER NO ONE SPOKE AND THOUGHT
IT SOMETIMES THEY LEAD TO
UNSPEAKABLE RESOLVES.
CARL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> YOU BET.
THANK YOU, NEIL.
NEIL: SENATOR RICHARD SHELBY, IF
YOU'LL INDULGE ME ON THE ISSUE
CARL AND I WERE SAVING THAT THE
PRESIDENTS ARE WORKING ON WITH
THEM LOOK VERY PROMISING, VERY
CONSTRUCTIVE ON GUN MATTERS NOW.
I'M AFRAID WHEN I SEE SOMETHING
LIKE THIS COME UP WITH BEHAVIOR
LIKE THIS THAT GOES AROUND TO
FORMER COLLEAGUES JUST SESSIONS,
AND IT'S NOT HELPING HIM.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> HE'S OBVIOUSLY CHALLENGED
DOWN THERE BECAUSE YOU NEED THE
SUPPORT OF THE PRESIDENT WHEN
YOU ARE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND
SECRETARY OF STATE OR TREASURY.
NEIL: SESSIONS DOESN'T HAVE IT.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
LOYALTY IS A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
THE PRESIDENTS LOYAL TO HIM AND
VICE VERSA AND YOU GENERALLY
HAVE A SMOOTH RELATIONSHIP, BUT
YOU'VE GOT A TROUBLED
RELATIONSHIP THERE AND HAVE HAD
FOR A LONG TIME.
I LISTEN TO YOUR PROGRAM A
MOMENT AGO.
I DO BELIEVE THAT SESSIONS HAVE
NO OPTION OTHER THAN TO RECUSE
HIMSELF FROM THE TRUMP
INVESTIGATION.
NEIL: THE MOST COMMON THINKING,
LAW-ABIDING, BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN
WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT.
BUT HE'S HELD HIS GRUDGE SENSE.
IT'S FRUSTRATING THAT LED TO A
CHAIN OF EVENTS AND HERE WE ARE.
>> WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WHEN THE
SPECIAL PROSECUTOR WAS APPOINTED
BY THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL
TO INVESTIGATE THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN AND SO FORTH, THAT
WOULD HAVE BEEN AN OPPORTUNE
TIME TO SPAWN A SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR TO INVESTIGATE THE
CLINTON SHENANIGANS IN THE
CLINTON FOUNDATION AND THE
MEETING WOULD HE ATTORNEY
GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES AND
THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
ALL OF THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN DONE
A YEAR AGO.
NEIL: THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS
THAT SHOULD'VE HAPPENED TO YOUR
POINT.
WONDERING WHAT HAPPENS NOW IF
YOU ARE JUST SESSIONS, WHY DO
YOU STAY IN OFFICE?
WHY DO YOU STAY ATTORNEY
GENERAL?
>> THAT'S THE QUESTION OF THE
DAY RIGHT NOW.
TREE AND DO IT FOR YOU AT THAT
CAPACITY, WOULD YOU STAY?
WOULD YOU BE HUMILIATED DAY IN
AND DAY OUT?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
I WOULDN'T STAY AT ALL OF THE
PRESIDENT WANTED ME TO STAY AND
HE APPOINTED ME.
I WOULDN'T BE UNDER ANYBODY -- I
WOULDN'T BE ANYBODY'S WHIPPING
BOY.
I WOULDN'T BE BELITTLED BECAUSE
THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING HE
DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE IN
ME.
THAT IS JUST CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW
AND WHAT HE WANTS TO DO AND HOW
HE DOES IT AND HE'S A GOOD MAN
GOING THROUGH A LOT AND IT'S GOT
A LOT OF CHALLENGES.
NEIL: IS THERE A SPILLOVER
EFFECT TO SOME OF YOUR
REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WHO FEEL
THIS IS A TRAITOR OF HIS OWN
CABINET AND WHATEVER YOU THINK
OF THE WISDOM OF WHAT HE IS
SINGING AND WHY JUST SESSIONS
DID WHAT HE DID WHEN THINGS
STARTED FOR LOOKING INTO THIS
INVESTIGATION NOW, INSPECTOR
GENERAL, IT BETTER.
THEY ARE BY THE GRACE OF GOD GO
I.
I AM THINKING THAT THIS GUY IS
LIKE, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOING TO
COME AFTER ME NEXT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> NOBODY KNOWS.
WE ALL COULD SPECULATE EVERY
DAY.
BUT ULTIMATELY, IS GOING TO BE
AT TO WHETHER THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL WANTS TO STAY IN THE JOB
AND BE BELITTLED BY THE
PRESIDENT, HIS BOSS TO PUT IN
THERE.
OR DOES HE WANT TO LEAVE?
THAT'S A DECISION YOU WILL HAVE
TO MAKE.
NEIL: IS IT HAVING ANY
LEGISLATIVE EFFECT ON WORKING
ARE GETTING REPUBLICANS TO WORK
EITHER ON GUN LEGISLATION FOR
SAFETY LEGISLATION OR ANY ONE OF
THE OTHER ISSUES, INFRASTRUCTURE
POPPING OUT.
ARE THEY FEELING RIGHT NOW THE
PRESIDENT COULD ABANDON THEM FOR
THAT HE WON'T BE LOYAL IF THEY
GO THE EXTRA MILE.
>> WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS THE
QUESTION OF THE PEOPLE WHO
PROPOSE THINGS BE WITH YOU AT
THE END?
WILL THEY BE WITH YOU WHEN THE
GOING GETS TOUGH.
THAT IS PART OF LEGISLATION THAT
WE DEAL WITH EVERY DAY.
WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.
NEIL: DO YOU TRUST THIS
PRESIDENT TO DO THE RIGHT THING
TO HIS PEOPLE, TO WORKING WITH
THOSE ON CAPITOL HILL INCLUDING
YOURSELF?
>> WELL, I HOPE SO.
WE ALL RESPECT THE OFFICE OF THE
PRESIDENT.
WE APPRECIATE WHAT THE PRESIDENT
IS DOING AND HOW HE'S DOING IT.
I DO BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT HAS
MADE SOME GOOD DECISIONS
OVERALL.
LOOK AT OUR ECONOMY.
A LOT OF GOOD SAVINGS HE IS
MADE.
BUT LOYALTY IS A TWO-WAY STREET
AND A CABINET POSITION.
WE KNOW THAT.
I'M SURE THE PRESIDENT KNOWS
THAT IN THE PEOPLE WHO THE JOBS
KNOW THAT.